Pros:
- Bringing forth The Nuclear Age(Take it or leave it, it's really all turned out for the best. At least so far.)
- The original NASA, and not the bureaucratic cock-up that it is now.
- Franklin and Teddy Roosevelt.
- William Tecumseh Sherman.
Cons:
- New Jersey.
- And a whole lot more crap that really makes me hate this country and wish I had the money, skills, and ability to understand a foreign language so I could get far away from here.
Makes you proud to be British!
The fact that the Netherlands have been (involuntarily) part of both France and Germany makes it all the more, how shall I say, odd. The option to join England was discussed on multiple occasions as well, but rejected every time.
I'm not sure there's really something I'm particularly proud of. If there's anything I'd have to choose I'll join Cryptoshrimp in praising the efforts of men and women past and present to keep the western and northern half of the Low Countries dry - with the creation of Flevoland being the crowning achievement. That is at least something particular to these regions.
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"And in that day you will cry out because of your king, whom you have chosen for yourselves." ~ 1 Samuel 8:18
And yet some people over here (mostly bogans) think it's up-market, trendy stuff. Then again at the ridiculously inflated prices they charge here, it might as well be because nobody can afford it.
I'm proud of... um... actually nationalism isn't really Australian. Maybe... kangaroos? No, wait, they're pests. Um... being a Western nation in the Eastern hemisphere? Being a really big island? Vegemite? Huh, maybe nothing.
Unless you're a bogan. Then you're proud of the southern cross, because according to them, we own that. Also wars, because WARS ARE AWESOME BRAH.
We owned and roflstomped your fleets whilst having a much smaller starting area with significantly fewer resources :P.
I would put up "Being more tolerant of different opinions, countries of origin, sexual orientations, religion, etc. etc. etc then every other damn country in the world", but this has changed over the last 10 years.
Oh, and the water. Very very much all the stuff we do with land and water. And dikes. It has been one of the reasons I am studying that at university.
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American IKEAs are full of cheap plastic and compressed particle board furniture. It's not the kind of stuff that's known for its durability. And it's overpriced for what it is. But people buy it because supposedly the fact that it's "imported" and from IKEA makes it super-awesome and trendy to have.
Never 4get.
OT, I don't think that having a little pride in your country is unhealthy, but going to the extent of nationalism is.
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The problem is the term "nationalism" has been hijacked in recent times to mean "anybody who doesn't go on a self-hatred trip about how Western civilisation is the downfall of man", much like "fascism" has changed from "a rather unappealing system of government" to "those damn police booked me for speeding in a school zone and enforced other laws and shit".
That too I guess, though we just label it 'intolerance'. Generally whenever someone calls someone a nationalist over here, it's because they go to an ANZAC Day parade or have a BBQ on Australia Day without apologising to the indigenous population over atrocities committed by colonists who they might not even have any relation to in the past, and lamenting that we're a Western nation sitting where we are. Never say anything good - not even about the extensive public healthcare system. If anybody asks, it's too shallow/doesn't go far enough/some people went in and died oh how horrible.