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    Just like The Witcher 2 being DRM free on GOG, right?

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    Just out of curiosity - Does anyone know if this'll be bundled with uPlay (on Steam)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unaco View Post
    This applies to both UBI and Pirates, I think.
    Sadly, pirates don't publish games, so I couldn't give a fuck about how right they might be.

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    Trying to find a good in a sea of bad. Maybe some people will not buy a bad game. And rent it instead, for 0 euros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaftPunk View Post
    What people need to understand is,that piracy can't be stop,but what devs can do is make bigger effort in making their games more pc friendly,thats the only way in securing more sales on pc.
    Piracy can't be stopped, but nor should it be celebrated. Pirates wage war on publishers, publishers wage war on pirates, and only the legitimate paying customers who just want to play some games, suffer. In this case I don't want any pirate or publisher being so presumptuous as to claim they're fighting for me. I can do that myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Sigar View Post
    Piracy can't be stopped, but nor should it be celebrated. Pirates wage war on publishers, publishers wage war on pirates, and only the legitimate paying customers who just want to play some games, suffer. In this case I don't want any pirate or publisher being so presumptuous as to claim they're fighting for me. I can do that myself.
    Nicely put tbh.
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    Ok, I'm not going to pirate it because I'm lazy and mostly stopped pirating, but is it even good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldvvvave View Post
    Ok, I'm not going to pirate it because I'm lazy and mostly stopped pirating, but is it even good?

    Surprisingly is quite good,but kinda repetitive and short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaftPunk View Post
    What people need to understand is,that piracy can't be stop,but what devs can do is make bigger effort in making their games more pc friendly,thats the only way in securing more sales on pc.
    but piracy can be stopped. it just requires a constant internet connection because some part of the game is running on a server in the interwebs that you cannot pirate

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    Piracy is a tricky thing to celebrate. On one hand, hackers/crackers/pirates make games available in regions publishers don't want to sell a game in, and sometimes they provide a better service than the always-online-required-connection claims it has. However, pirates don't make their own games, and they hurt the developer more than the publisher.

    At this point, pirating a UbiSoft game is more spiteful than productive. It reminds me of the EVE Online lack-of-pirate-targets discussion in another thread. At a certain point the well's going to dry up, and predators need to know when not to gobble up everything they see in order for there to be something next time they're hungry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldvvvave View Post
    Ok, I'm not going to pirate it because I'm lazy and mostly stopped pirating, but is it even good?
    Yeah honestly, this is what people should care about. If the developers are fuelling their factories with the blood of children then yes, ok be annoyed, but to be glad the game is getting pirated because one guy made a silly comment is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woundedbum View Post
    Yeah honestly, this is what people should care about. If the developers are fuelling their factories with the blood of children then yes, ok be annoyed, but to be glad the game is getting pirated because one guy made a silly comment is ridiculous.
    Getting stuff for free and keeping your conscience clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Sigar View Post
    Piracy can't be stopped, but nor should it be celebrated. Pirates wage war on publishers, publishers wage war on pirates, and only the legitimate paying customers who just want to play some games, suffer. In this case I don't want any pirate or publisher being so presumptuous as to claim they're fighting for me. I can do that myself.
    I'm all for seeing Ubisoft suffer to be honest. Pirates made Silent Hunter 3 playable after Ubisoft cheated me out of my legitimately bought copy, so at least I know who is definitely fighting against me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Getting stuff for free and keeping your conscience clean.
    Yeah, I think this is it. Nobody really pirates anything out of spite, but there will be people who pirate this sort of game because they want it for free but normally they'd feel too bad about pirating to do it, and in this case have found a convenient excuse. I guess from the publisher's perspective, the distinction is irrelevant though---if they hadn't said silly things, then these people wouldn't be pirating.

    There probably are also plenty of people who would have pirated it anyway but felt a bit guilty, and now they're pirating it, crowing about how it's paying the company back for blah blah blah, and feeling better about themselves. Even if they claim they're pirating it because blah blah, they're not really.
    Irrelevant on further examination of the rest of the thread.

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    Then there are people who pirate just to try out the game,because there is no demo. Then there are people who some games pirate,some buy. But the point is,allot of pirates also buys games.
    ... I take the lives of a few to protect the lives of many. I commit acts of war to preserve the greater peace. I take no joy in killing, but make no mistake; I'll do what needs to be done. Because it's my job. It's my duty. My name is Sam Fisher, and I am a Splinter Cell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathanH View Post
    Yeah, I think this is it. Nobody really pirates anything out of spite, but there will be people who pirate this sort of game because they want it for free but normally they'd feel too bad about pirating to do it, and in this case have found a convenient excuse. I guess from the publisher's perspective, the distinction is irrelevant though---if they hadn't said silly things, then these people wouldn't be pirating.
    Actually, I haven't pirated anything in ages, but, really... I'm tempted to pirate this. I'm probably not going to do it, though, but they DO deserve it. OK, it's not cool, because it gives them more reasons for adding their lovely DRM to every f*cking game they release, and it's the developers who suffer, but... Come on, they have been some bloody bastards for ages now, and I wouldn't feel sorry for them if they lost money for whatever reason.

    tl,dr: Not gonna pirate it, but Ubi doesn't deserve anything better. Devs do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathanH View Post
    There probably are also plenty of people who would have pirated it anyway but felt a bit guilty, and now they're pirating it, crowing about how it's paying the company back for blah blah blah, and feeling better about themselves.
    people pirate stuff cause its free and cause they can, simple as that. theres no convoluted moral reasoning to delude yourself from "feeling guilty" or whatever.

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    What part of "DRM is useless" don't they understand?

    I mean, they could make all games like Diablo 3, I suppose, but Diablo 3 was less a game with DRM attached and more a DRM platform with a game motif.
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    So... just to make sure I am following the "yay, screw ubi" party correctly:

    A game was not released on the PC for some reason or another
    Ubi decides to release it on the PC after all
    Said game is pirated

    And that is a good thing?

    Don't get me wrong, I love to laugh at Ubi's failures (seriously, the cracked versions of uplay games stream content from their servers :p), but how is this a good thing? At best it is a neutral thing. Its funny that ubidrm is still cracked (a very old joke, but people still laugh at "that's what she said", so whatever), but this does nothing to benefit us. Either ubi will make a new, even stupider, DRM model to try and "stop piracy" or they'll just pull even further away from the PC.

    Between this, the new Metal Gear Solid, and Dark Souls pre-release, I am starting to suspect there is a sizable portion of PC gamers who would be happier if no games were ever released for the PC so that they have an excuse to bitch.

    And yes, consoles can have piracy too. But those are also very closed systems where the modifications can be (comparatively) easily detected and said systems can be blacklisted from all online content.
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    in perfect world they would realize drm in pointless, and put those resources into making a better game instead. but we all know thats not gonna happen. its a good thing for ubi haters i guess, i mean who doesnt like a bit of Schadenfreude

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