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29-09-2012, 05:34 PM #1
The Tiki: A PC that even Apple fans appreciate (are jealuos of)
The Falcon Northwest Tiki is a revelation: a watercooled, factory overclocked, enthusiast PC that's roughly the size of a fat Playstation 3
Making of (a lot of inspiration here for the DIY PC crowd):
An unboxing video:
A short review:
I was shocked by the amount of stuff crammed into this HTPC when I first heard about it. Was sure that the cpu or gpu were underclocked to keep noise/heat down, but everything's running at full blast - even overclocked in the case of the cpu. I laboured for a few years on a machine I thought was tiny: yet it's double this system's size in height!! Incredible workmanship. Too bad the case aone is not available for sale, the price tag on this thing screams "concept piece".
29-09-2012, 10:39 PM #2
I'm no Apple fan, and that case design is horredous (sorry).
29-09-2012, 10:42 PM #3
29-09-2012, 11:24 PM #4
Eh... Nothing wrong with a regular box with 14 inch fans that spin at sub audible frequency and a passive gpu/cpu, super quiet, mainstream parts, cheap. Can be pretty too.I'm failing to writing a blog, specifically about playing games the wrong way
29-09-2012, 11:28 PM #5
29-09-2012, 11:45 PM #6
29-09-2012, 11:51 PM #7
On the other hand... *calculates for 3 minutes* my HTPC cost me $3465 if I include the cost of the custom watercooling ($407), case machining mods ($105) and that infamous intel 160GB SSD ($570) ... so $1600 is actually a pretty good bargain for a gaming HTPC!
29-09-2012, 11:54 PM #8
And what edge do you exactly get from a $1000 PC with 3750 and 660Ti?
29-09-2012, 11:59 PM #9
Point is, this is the only PC with this form factor that has a) an overclocked quad core cpu and b) can take a 30cm gtx690 graphics card.
30-09-2012, 01:16 AM #10
To be honest, if I had enough money to buy this thing, I should have enough money to rent an apartment which can easily house a PC 3-4x the size, or get a laptop. You will still need space for keyboard, mousepad and display (or TV), so style definitely trumps substance here I think.
30-09-2012, 02:17 AM #11
30-09-2012, 02:19 AM #12
30-09-2012, 02:30 AM #13
I personally spent $2500 on watercooling hardware over 5 years (not to mention the amount of time spent on revising mods) to get an HTPC with an internal water cooling loop that can handle something like a heavily overclocked core i7 3930k. If I had the option of buying a ready made HTPC and paying only a $500 premium over the $2500 spent, saving 100s of hours in the process, I would have taken that option without a second thought.
30-09-2012, 02:35 AM #14
Sure, it's a cool gadget. I'll never buy one though, unless I win the lottery once or twice. Smaller's nice, but not nice enough to justify that price tag.
30-09-2012, 02:42 AM #15
30-09-2012, 04:21 AM #16
I can appreciate that it's a nice piece of design... but for that price it's not remotely worth it, and without compromising on performance or cooling I don't know how you're going to keep cutting it down. Plus having a box where you can't effectively upgrade the most critical components is useless in gaming unless it's a laptop with a decent screen - unlike the consoles we need to upgrade to keep pace, even if that pace has slowed down quite a lot. To prove that point - hypothetically an Xbox 360 that was released back in 2006 could still play games today, but back in 2006 I had a Core2Duo with 2GB of RAM and a 6600GT or something. None of that would be much use in games today (at high resolutions or anything to exceed a console for the most part). Or for a less realistic example take a PS3 from release and it'd still perform while my PC from the same era wouldn't be so good.
Sorry, but as nice as this is from a design perspective, there's nothing much else to appreciate here.
30-09-2012, 05:19 AM #17
30-09-2012, 07:07 AM #18
Er, I should have clarified, sorry I was trying to do two things at once. What I meant was you're quite restricted in your upgrade paths because of the ITX form factor. Basically you're paying for a fancy case with limited upgrade paths for a form factor not suited to high performance components. You might as well... you know, built something yourself and get it for a lot cheaper.
30-09-2012, 08:44 AM #19
Then again, itx is becoming quite popular nowadays, especially for people who want specific kinds of machines and don't mind losing expansion bays. So for a certain segment upgrading the cpu, motherboard, ram and graphics card is more than enough.
This machine for example is small enough to be mounted behind a car's boot carpeting yet it is vastly superior in features and performance to a bluray/media player or console. I'm sure there are many such examples where size would make an impact for some people.
Last edited by mashakos; 30-09-2012 at 08:46 AM.
30-09-2012, 08:49 AM #20