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    Animations (and character models) look like dogshit.
    It may not be a bethesda made game, but it certainly has trademark bethesda untalented modelers and animators.

    First impressions that I've heard from non PR monkeys (normal people) is that the stealth is not comparable to Thief at all.
    No light/shadows based stealth or anything good like that.

    Guess we'll hear in a few days if it's any good at all, PR mouthpiece opinions are about as valuable as shit at a pigfarm.
    MW2 game 'its biggest problem is that it's almost too good', 'oscar worthy story' perfect game of the forever for gta4, assassin's creed and mass effect 10/10... yeah I don't think it's wise to dignify anything those tools say.
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    Finished it yesterday, great game, maybe not as great as all the "OMG GAME OF THE CENTURY !!!!1!" reviews make it out to be but still a solid must buy.

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    Woohoo! Just finished Borderlands 2 in time for this. I'm preloaded and ready to go.

    I love me some stealth gameplay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finicky View Post
    First impressions that I've heard from non PR monkeys (normal people) is that the stealth is not comparable to Thief at all.
    No light/shadows based stealth or anything good like that.
    That was made clear way back though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finicky View Post
    stealth is not comparable to Thief at all.
    No light/shadows based stealth or anything good like that.
    Stealth is line of sight based, not light/shadows based.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INPKd4JGtsk&feature=plcp

    Video from annoyingvoice-guy that shows how good/bad a port it is. More useful into here than in all those reviews combined for pc gamers.

    The artstyle seems pretty nice in the video, beats shitty cell shading as far as cartoony looks go at least. Might sound petty to trash the awful animations but it's a pet peeve of mine, too much uncanny valley and lazy horrible animating these last few years.

    Curious if the gameplay is any good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Choca View Post
    Stealth is line of sight based, not light/shadows based.
    Yes, that is what I just said... Hence it being nothing like the amazing thief games...
    Since I've heard the word 'thief' mentioned a lot in the last weeks when people talk about dishonored I think it's good to know that the stealth isn't like in thief.
    Avoiding buyer's remorse due to different expectations and all that.
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    I was thinking about buying this game until I found out it wasn't using beautiful shadows-based stealth and was using yucky LOS-based stealth. I hate LOS-based stealth, it is just, I don't know, fundamentally ugly.
    Irrelevant on further examination of the rest of the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathanH View Post
    I hate LOS-based stealth, it is just, I don't know, fundamentally ugly.
    Why? Care to elaborate? To me LOS-stealth taking into account sounds makes a lot of sense. More than a light-meter.
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    Nice to see the good reception and all but about the stealth mechanic in this game, rather than just LOS, does sound affect your stealthing as well? And wouldn't light and dark affect the line of sight?
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    Regarding sound, I saw a gameplay video where the player ran up behind a guy, who turned round in surprise, so I think it does factor in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voon View Post
    Nice to see the good reception and all but about the stealth mechanic in this game, rather than just LOS, does sound affect your stealthing as well? And wouldn't light and dark affect the line of sight?
    Sound does play an important role. As for light/dark... at great distances, yes, it becomes important. What they've tried to avoid is situations where the player is in a shadow, and a guard is looking right at them from 5 meters away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finicky View Post
    Guess we'll hear in a few days if it's any good at all, PR mouthpiece opinions are about as valuable as shit at a pigfarm.
    Pretty sure Sephking linked to a bunch of reviews, but of course I guess they're all paid hacks in the pocket of big business *sigh*.

    In a week I'm expecting the inevitable 'We'll I'm glad I didn't pay for that' follow up post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unaco View Post
    What they've tried to avoid is situations where the player is in a shadow, and a guard is looking right at them from 5 meters away.
    Like what happened to me in ThiefII yesterday, I was crouched at a dark corner and had three guard crotches in my face. They were looking for me, they were rubbing their crotches against my face but they could not see me. Finally after 5 minutes they realised someone was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kataras View Post
    Like what happened to me in ThiefII yesterday, I was crouched at a dark corner and had three guard crotches in my face. They were looking for me, they were rubbing their crotches against my face but they could not see me. Finally after 5 minutes they realised someone was there.
    ... That sounds like slash fanfic.

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    Weird to see so many negative comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackShandy View Post
    Weird to see so many negative comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackShandy View Post
    Weird to see so many negative comments.
    Not really... It's a big AAA game, that received a lot of press attention, that's trying to hark back to a period in gaming from about 10 years ago without slavishly copying games from that era, that is receiving universally positive reviews from the gaming press. Just one of those would be cause for the Angry Internet Men to rear their heads... them all together makes for a Perfect Storm of sh*tflinging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackShandy View Post
    Weird to see so many negative comments.
    It's a great game really, people will bash it because they can but I really did enjoy it. It's not the best game ever though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackShandy View Post
    Weird to see so many negative comments.
    Trying to make up for all the OMG DISHONORED BY THAT ONE GUY WHO ONCE DID THAT OTHER THING AND THOSE OTHER GUYS? OMG PREORDERED 7 COPIES

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