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    XCOM - Thoughts and Encounters.

    Thoughts - The reviews seem to be all bang on.

    It's just as hard as previous incarnations but not as fiddly.

    I never cared for the fiddly-ness in the battles but I'd like to tinker around in that gloriously rendered base some more. But its early days yet, I'm not even a month in yet. I am six soldiers down though. The battles can go from near triumph to utter defeat in a single turn.

    Encounters - They've mostly gone badly. And so they should, I'm playing on Classic Ironman.

    On my second mission somebody got caught in the explosion of a car setting off a chain reaction of panic amongst my troopers which resulted in another death but also the death of a Sectoid. One man came back.

    Sadly I've had to abort a mission as the target I was supposed to rescue would not register my troop next to him.... and I accidently clicked abort before getting all my troops back, losing a decent Sniper in the process. Derp.

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    Playing on Classic w.o. Ironman but I don't save within missions, only before and tend to go with the losses.

    Best fuck up so far was my support getting killed in a one-in-a-million shot, causing my assault to panic and shotgun-snipe the heavy in a one-in-a-billion mastershot, causing the guy I was escorting to panic, run off and into aliens.

    I'm starting over now as my entire squad of veterans was wiped out in 2 turns by 2 chrysalids. I did NOT expect that.

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    "AHHHH those soldiers I was will were killed! Ahhhhhhgh better run into that crowd of inhuman monsters instead of away from them!"

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    Can anyone comment on what restrictions Iron Man mode entails? Is it just that you can't save during missions? Also, how long are missions approximately? I'm trying to decide which game mode I'll choose but can't find any game manual online.

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    Just means you can't reload a save once you fuck up a mission.

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    I'm no X-Com veteran, so Normal - Iron Man might be better for a rookie like me?

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    I'm thinking of Normal/Iron Man myself. As a rookie I think Classic is going to be too much to handle right from the start but I want to have (some of) the element of loss and risk that people go on about, so that combination could be good to begin with.
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    I think Iron man just gives you one save so you can save mid-mission. If that IS true, I'll probably play first on normal/ironman, too, that after playthrough one, ramp it up to classic :-).
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    According to a review or preview I read at Eurogamer or PC Gamer (I'm trying to be as specific as my memory allows!), they found normal to be too easy and classic to be a touch too hard. Now the game is out any advice about which difficulty to go for?

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    Spent as many hours as I could last night playing before dragging myself to bed and then work this morning. I went with Normal/Ironman so I can get used to the flow of the game. I think you can save whenever you like, but you have to exit the game when you do. Only lost one rookie in the first month (Operation Stone Prophet - anyone recognize that name?), though I haven't had the first terror mission yet...

    Lessons learned:
    • Never sell elerium - you'll be glad you didn't
    • Always be aware of ammo - reaction shots and supressing fire can chew up a clip quickly.
    • Specialize soldiers - the skill trees give some flexibility to how a trooper fights and moves.
    • Buy the extra squad spaces ASAP - I like to bring along at least one rookie each mission to spread the XP.
    • Watch spending - moreso than the original, money is tight. There are a lot of essentials, so buy a little at a time, especially re: base building.
    • NEVER SELL ELERIUM

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    Here's a tip I just saw:

    After you do the (ham-fisted) tutorial, you can restart the game to avoid losing three men and being forced to make the base decisions they throw at you.

    I wish I'd done that, but I'm in too deep - I've already named and grown attached to my squaddies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashbox View Post
    Here's a tip I just saw:

    After you do the (ham-fisted) tutorial, you can restart the game to avoid losing three men and being forced to make the base decisions they throw at you.
    Do you mean restart and choose to skip the tutorial, or that the game gives you the option to restart properly once the tutorial is over?

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    i can't figure out the shooting angles.

    sometimes when i'm very close with no obstacles, the accuracy isn't that high
    sometimes when there's a wall in the way, i can shoot through it with high accuracy
    on any given movement, i don't know whether I'm running through overwatch or just running safely.

    kind of frustrating, but it does keep things interesting...

    whether this qualifies as a good strategy game remains to be seen. the randomness is okay, as long as it's well-defined randomness.

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    Is that poison spit supposed to work the way it does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by X_kot View Post
    NEVER SELL ELERIUM
    Do you also get to salvage and research alien spacecraft parts? If they've kept the whole alien tech tree and manufacturing, I'd like to think they haven't screwed up XCOM too badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Sigar View Post
    Do you mean restart and choose to skip the tutorial, or that the game gives you the option to restart properly once the tutorial is over?
    I think you've just got to quit and start a new game sans-tutorial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TillEulenspiegel View Post
    Do you also get to salvage and research alien spacecraft parts? If they've kept the whole alien tech tree and manufacturing, I'd like to think they haven't screwed up XCOM too badly.
    Yep, that's still part of the interception system. Equipment can be damaged during the crash and during the recovery mission, so explosives can be a detriment. I've only done one so far, though; I can't speak as to whether you can tail a UFO until it lands for better rewards.

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    Played my first game on Classic Ironman. It sure is hard. Survived to day 108, won 7 of 17 battles. May well be the best game this year for me.
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    What I remember seeing on the various playthrough videos that have appeared in the last few weeks is that it's not a great idea to sell too much in terms of corpses and artifacts, as a lot of them are components in future research and manufacturing. Anything labelled as damaged on the sell screen can be safely sold, and the text describing the items recommends that you do so.

    Mechanics question: does anybody know how accurate overwatch reaction fire is? In relation to, say, firing on light cover, firing on a flanked enemy, that sort of thing. As a concrete choice- if my only targets have very low to-hit chances, and I don't want to move from where I am, is it better to hit overwatch and hope something moves, rather than likely waste ammo on a low chance shot?

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    Not sure about numbers, but I just saw this on the PC Gamer site:

    Opportunist – Removes the accuracy penalty for overwatch attacks. This lets a Sniper climb to high ground and cover the entire squad with ease. Opportunist helps compensate for the aiming penalty for Snap Shot, or pull off some amazing trick shots with Squad Sight.
    It appears that Overwatch has an accuracy penalty. At least for a sniper. You're probably better off manually firing.

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