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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalano View Post
    I don't remember his review and I don't care, because I hold my own counsel on K&L2, but I get your point on how an act when it comes to negativity is still just an act - look at the Angry Video Game Nerd, after all.
    http://www.destructoid.com/review-ka...s-181575.phtml

    I didn't think K&L2 set the world on fire, but 1/10 is kind of ludicrous. I mean at the very least it had an interesting graphic style and even if it was short and O/T towards the end, the actual shootouts early on weren't bad.

    That said, though, I think the best practice is to treat opinion as aggregate yet unquantifiable: Reading a lot of reviews is better than searching for a median number, even if each individual review is itself less than stellar when it comes to reasoning and writing quality.
    Never a truer word said. I do find it faintly amusing where one reviewer says a games not great and suddenly you've a bunch of people swearing off from that one review. Look at the Hitman:Absolution WiT...read around people...Adam Smith is not the messiah.

    I just don't get Kadayi in this thread. On one hand he dismisses the complaints against MCV/Lauren/Eurogamer.fr, because there is not enough proof. And OTOH he calls Jim Sterling a biased reviewer just because he give K&L a low score(without solid proof, just guess). It's like the whiners on reverse, he will just bitch about critics when they give games low scores lolz.
    I'm looking at the scores Vs those of others and comparing. Neither wainwright of the french dudes scores are particularly out of wack with what most other critics gave the games. Where's Sterling's score is completely out of wack with what everyone else gave K&L2. How is that hard to understand exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    I'm looking at the scores Vs those of others and comparing. Neither wainwright of the french dudes scores are particularly out of wack with what most other critics gave the games. Where's Sterling's score is completely out of wack with what everyone else gave K&L2. How is that hard to understand exactly?
    Well, assuming he wrote a decent piece(wich unfortunately isn't the case) i don't think why having a different and somewhat polemic view should discredit him by default! So i see the metascore for the PC version and i find 5 "positive" reviews and 2 "negative" against 18 "mixed" reviews. Should i discredit both the positives and negative scores just because it doesn't fit the majority of the scores?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    Never a truer word said. I do find it faintly amusing where one reviewer says a games not great and suddenly you've a bunch of people swearing off from that one review. Look at the Hitman:Absolution WiT...read around people...Adam Smith is not the messiah.

    I think you missed the part where a game with the 80 range is considered a failure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf View Post
    Well, assuming he wrote a decent piece(wich unfortunately isn't the case)
    So you're fluent in french?

    I think you missed the part where a game with the 80 range is considered a failure..
    Tell that to XCOM & Black OPs
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    I wish someone would create a gif of that fight where 47 snipes him from the rafters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    So you're fluent in french?
    Im' talking about the Jim Sterling review.

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    I wish someone would create a gif of that fight where 47 snipes him from the rafters.
    Too late for that. Agent 47 is forever tainted now...

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    You know, I think it's fine that they gave you that option in killing the guy. In fact, it's one I would expect from a hitman game. The whole killing in full view of everyone is awesome, IF they had just kept his FUCKING mask on. It would have been a case of no one realizing the big guy is actually dead until you in your mask are already gone. So simple. So easy. So dumb.

    Edit: Not that this has anything to do with the thread title anymore but then it hasn't in forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woundedbum View Post
    I wish someone would create a gif of that fight where 47 snipes him from the rafters.
    LOL. So everyones making out that it's the only way and it's not? Christ....

    Quote Originally Posted by Squirly View Post
    You know, I think it's fine that they gave you that option in killing the guy. In fact, it's one I would expect from a hitman game. The whole killing in full view of everyone is awesome, IF they had just kept his FUCKING mask on. It would have been a case of no one realizing the big guy is actually dead until you in your mask are already gone. So simple. So easy. So dumb.
    True enough, though I suspect it was a case of 47 wanting him to know who was killing him? Also tbh...the games only just come out in europe so maybe remove the gif dnf until people have played the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    LOL. So everyones making out that it's the only way and it's not? Christ....



    True enough, though I suspect it was a case of 47 wanting him to know who was killing him? Also tbh...the games only just come out in europe so maybe remove the gif dnf until people have played the game.
    If only the gif could speack... The douche 47 ask him if he knows who is are, and Danny Trejo simply responds "NO".. haha,lol
    And like i said in the Hitman thread, even if we got 1000 options for the kill, the QTE is still retarded. But keep rationalizing shit as the devs continue to dumb down their games.
    Also, sorry to spoil your QTE fun guys...
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    So if I understand this, you have another option to kill him that isn't a QTE? But because a QTE is an option, this is an issue for you?

    I don't see where the difference is in that QTE and you pointing a gun at his head and pressing a button from far away in terms of anything people often claim QTEs are without, skill.

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    The skill in firing from afar comes from actually exploring and sneaking the enviromment and find a good point to shoot(there is also the timing,wich Danny Trejo is fighting his lucha libre), there can be other points to consider though. Or you can just ignore the elephant in the room and say like the others that the QTE is a valid course of action, nevermind that its just a cutscene where you push a button...

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    *Kadayi increasingly thinks this forum requires spoiler tags*

    Seriously the game came out yesterday....have some sense.
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    I know mang. That scene ruined the game for me, i mean, what a twist, 47 kills a dude i would never know this was possible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnf View Post
    I know mang. That scene ruined the game for me, i mean, what a twist, 47 kills a dude i would never know this was possible...
    Have some respect for the rest of the people who come to this thread and might not want the game spoiled. It's not difficult to edit your posts, but still feel free to be a prick about it....
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    Again, and this is the last I'll mention it, and I haven't played the game and I wont refer to what happened, but dnf, your issue with this event, is that there is the mere option to perform a QTE instead of an alternative method of carrying out the event? And you are annoyed by the mere option of this QTE? Not that you are forced to perform a QTE, but that it is there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    Never a truer word said. I do find it faintly amusing where one reviewer says a games not great and suddenly you've a bunch of people swearing off from that one review. Look at the Hitman:Absolution WiT...read around people...Adam Smith is not the messiah.
    If you read three reviews and two of them love it while one of them hates it, you still have to make your own judgement on which of those reviews you trust the most, and who you think articulated their points the best. I already know that I think Adam is a good reviewer, and I thought he got his points across well. I could go hunting for 10 more reviews from random blogs on the internet but what's the point? All it does is add noise, it doesn't actually clarify anything. If all you're going to do is go hunting for a wide spectrum of reviews, then you might as well just look at the user scores for games on metacritic and base all your purchases on that number.

    Hitman is actually a good example, because a few other reviewers I trust think it's a solid game, but they like it for reasons that go against what I want from a Hitman game. So it still comes back to Adam perfectly articulating what he doesn't like about Absolution, and me realising that describes my fears about the game. At that point I'm perfectly happy to hold off buying it based on Adam's review. It doesn't mean he's the messiah, it means he's an intelligent writer that has done enough on RPS for me to trust his judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    LOL. So everyones making out that it's the only way and it's not? Christ....

    It's definitely not the only way, but obviously I don't want to spoil any more.

    And, the taking off the mask thing, well I don't want to say it's fine, but in the context of the story it does manage to seem a lot less bad than it does by just watching it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondDog View Post
    If you read three reviews and two of them love it while one of them hates it, you still have to make your own judgement on which of those reviews you trust the most, and who you think articulated their points the best. I already know that I think Adam is a good reviewer, and I thought he got his points across well. I could go hunting for 10 more reviews from random blogs on the internet but what's the point? All it does is add noise, it doesn't actually clarify anything. If all you're going to do is go hunting for a wide spectrum of reviews, then you might as well just look at the user scores for games on metacritic and base all your purchases on that number.

    Hitman is actually a good example, because a few other reviewers I trust think it's a solid game, but they like it for reasons that go against what I want from a Hitman game. So it still comes back to Adam perfectly articulating what he doesn't like about Absolution, and me realising that describes my fears about the game. At that point I'm perfectly happy to hold off buying it based on Adam's review. It doesn't mean he's the messiah, it means he's an intelligent writer that has done enough on RPS for me to trust his judgement.
    Random blogs? There's this quite neat site out there called metacritic....

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-...critic-reviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondDog View Post
    If you read three reviews and two of them love it while one of them hates it, you still have to make your own judgement on which of those reviews you trust the most, and who you think articulated their points the best.
    It's not just articulating well, it's about the reasons they loved and hated the game. If I read a review of something that gives it a 9 and goes on and on about the brilliant emergent gameplay, I won't be that interested as that's not an element of games that interests me. On the other hand if a game gets a 6 and the reviewer focuses on the awful writing then I won't buy it as that'd bother me.

    There have been times where I've read an 8 or 9 review of a game and it's put me off, because a couple of what the reviewer calls 'minor' flaws are deal-breakers for me.

    It's about content, not the score. Read enough reviews and you'll have a good idea if you'll like the game or not, regardless of the metacritic average.

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    So, RevStu did an interview over MSN with Lauren Wainwright to get her side of things/viewpoint. He made clear that he would print the exchange unedited.

    Ms Wainwright then decides after conducting the interview that she doesn't want RevStu to publish it. She then starts lying on twitter again saying it was just a chat and not an interview etc etc, to which RevStu reminds her of ""What I propose is that I ask a few simple questions, you answer, and I print the entire exchange unedited."".

    That girl is decidedly simple.

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