Hey everyone,

I'm looking into getting into one of these big Paradox strategy games. I got a small Paradox Pack quite a while ago that included SotS I and II as well as Crusader Kings 2. I'm looking to get into one of these games but I don't know which... I'm more interested in the SotS setting but I've heard bad things about the SotSII release. I mostly just want recommendations on these games. Which one should I try first? I would just try them myself but I feel like getting into any of these is a huge time investment.

So is SotSII in shape enough to play at this point in time? Should I skip it and fall back to SotS I ? Or is CKII just all around a better experience?