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    What in the what? THQ Humble bundle? *head a-splodes*

    So I was checking the Steam CDR, because supposedly Sonic Adventure 2 was coming out today for PC but it's not showing up and I'm about to have a seizure and kill someone, and I find this...

    http://cdr.thebronasium.com/sub/18207

    What the f...

    If this really is part of a new humble, either they've really stretched the meaning of the word "humble", or Wolfire scrounged up enough money to buy THQ's remnants.

    If this is just THQ's way of using "funny" wording to raise awareness, I hope a truck runs them over.

    Just... christ.

    Edit: as a plus, there's also an entry for a "Metro 2033 December Giveaway"; a hint of things to come during the winter sale? http://cdr.thebronasium.com/sub/18029
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    I don't get it,all their games are listed in the bundle or is it something else i didn't catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaftPunk View Post
    I don't get it,all their games are listed in the bundle or is it something else i didn't catch.
    not all
    App ID Name Origin CDR
    4560 Company of Heroes 9684
    9340 Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts 9684
    20540 Company of Heroes: Tales of Valor 9684
    43110 Metro 2033 9684
    50620 Darksiders 9684
    55110 Red Faction: Armageddon 9684
    The rest of the stuff is just language packs and content packs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliocentric View Post
    not all
    Ohhhh, so no DoW2? man, I wanted that without GfWL

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    The "it" is that the humble indie bundle, keyword INDIE is supposed to be for, once again, INDIE games. They've already been stretching the meaning of it a few times in the past, with things like Psychonauts, but a THQ bundle is just taking the piss over the term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauten View Post
    The "it" is that the humble indie bundle, keyword INDIE is supposed to be for, once again, INDIE games. They've already been stretching the meaning of it a few times in the past, with things like Psychonauts, but a THQ bundle is just taking the piss over the term.
    Well, the site is humble bundle. Not necessarily indie bundle.
    I don't have much problem with publishers putting games on a pwyw scheme.

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    If it's pay what you want and some of the money goes to charity, I don't really see the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikey View Post
    Well, the site is humble bundle. Not necessarily indie bundle.
    I don't have much problem with publishers putting games on a pwyw scheme.
    The main bundles have indeed been called humble indie bundle, but the themed bundles (for Android, developer specific, etc...) have not. I guess they could get away with a themed THQ bundle, but it wouldn't go down well with the people who believe in 'the spirit' of HIB's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodeen View Post
    The main bundles have indeed been called humble indie bundle, but the themed bundles (for Android, developer specific, etc...) have not. I guess they could get away with a themed THQ bundle, but it wouldn't go down well with the people who believe in 'the spirit' of HIB's.

    Just like everyone freaked out at the Introversion Bundle?

    And besides, what really qualifies as "indie" these days? The line has been blurred QUITE a bit. Is indie anyone who isn't affiliated with a major publisher? If so, CD Projekt counts (CDP is a distributor mostly) and so does Valve. Is it just someone who doesn't USE a publisher to distribute their games? If so, LOTS of devs who are PC exclusive count and people like Double Fine don't.

    An author I really like summed it up best as far as books go (and look at that ebook bundle :p): The difference between self-publishing (indie) and traditional publishing, at least in the digital domain, is the number of professional eyes that have looked it over and given feedback. A traditionally published book will have a team of editors and a lot of professional feedback. A self-published book has the author and (maybe) a few friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gundato View Post
    An author I really like summed it up best as far as books go (and look at that ebook bundle :p): The difference between self-publishing (indie) and traditional publishing, at least in the digital domain, is the number of professional eyes that have looked it over and given feedback. A traditionally published book will have a team of editors and a lot of professional feedback. A self-published book has the author and (maybe) a few friends.
    More or less this. It's not "not distributed by a publisher," so much as it's "not made with a contract with a publisher," implying funding and editorial oversight.

    No oversight means, of course, that they escape the "CoD/WoW is doing well, make this more like CoD/WoW" requirement, but they also escape the "we require at least three months of playtesting" requirement, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rauten View Post
    The "it" is that the humble indie bundle, keyword INDIE is supposed to be for, once again, INDIE games.
    Except when they do books and music and stuff.

    Seriously, if this is real, and actually from the Humble guys and not just THQ stealing a name, what's not to like?

    • THQ raise some much needed funds and maybe don't fold before they get their next lot of games out.
    • Some charities raise a fuck-ton of money.
    • Customers get some awesome games for very little money.


    And the problem is what exactly?

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    Maybe, longshot here, but maybe it has something to do with Thanksgiving that coming up?

    Perhaps the bundles on sale this year will have names associated with them beyond the publisher?

    Humble THQ, Pilgrim Square Enix, Bounty Ubisoft.

    Edit: Seriously, the word "humble" is not owned by the guys at Humble Indie bundle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus_Phish View Post
    Edit: Seriously, the word "humble" is not owned by the guys at Humble Indie bundle.
    True, but considering the CDR entry is specifically named "Humble Bundle Core" it's really hard to think anything else other than it's the PWYW portion of the next HIB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus_Phish View Post
    Maybe, longshot here, but maybe it has something to do with Thanksgiving that coming up?

    Perhaps the bundles on sale this year will have names associated with them beyond the publisher?

    Humble THQ, Pilgrim Square Enix, Bounty Ubisoft.

    Edit: Seriously, the word "humble" is not owned by the guys at Humble Indie bundle.
    I think the point is this bundle will probably be sold via the Humble Bundle guys, who up to now have done exclusively indie bundle pay-what-you-want deals.

    The way I see it:

    1) a Humble THQ Indie Bundle could be a thing, I'm pretty sure THQ aren't owned by anyone and are therefore technically independent... Just a publisher, not a developer. A Humble Volition Indie Bundle would be a problem because Volition's games are funded by THQ.

    2) If the bundle really is PWYW and features recent Red Faction and Saints Row (as well as other THQ titles, I just can't think of any right now) games, that's pretty decent value for people who were waiting for a good deal.

    3) Despite 1), the word 'indie' hasn't even been mentioned, so let's all just calm down.

    THQ are responsible for a few pretty good games which have been enjoyed by many people and I don't want to see them die. I do want to see them get some better management who don't want to make TV shows out of all their halfway decent IPs, however, but of all the publishers out there they're one of the ones who least deserve to die. I can forgive their ridiculous DLC practices in light of the fact that they're pretty desperate, and I also hope this bundle sale brings in some decent cash. After all, which would you prefer as a THQ fundraiser: A pay-what-you-want bundle, a kickstarter or THQ alpha funded releases?

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    "We are THQ, humbly asking for your money so that we don't die"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The JG Man View Post
    "We are THQ, humbly asking for your money so that we don't die"?
    Indeed. It seems to me that this bundle is about as humble as a bundle can be.

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    Gotta give THQ credit. Even if they go down, they will go down fighting

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    Can I just say that not one person reading this has the first clue what 'indie' actually means - everyone has their own take on it and we can't ALL be right so...

    End of the day the only consistent thing it means is "not Call of Duty or FIFA or Halo"... ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by trjp View Post
    Can I just say that not one person reading this has the first clue what 'indie' actually means - everyone has their own take on it and we can't ALL be right so...

    End of the day the only consistent thing it means is "not Call of Duty or FIFA or Halo"... ;)
    I'm almost certain everyone here knows what indie means.

    And just like the record companies of old who used to put music on discs, indie bands, turn into indie labels, which gets bigger and bigger, until indie means more than it's grass roots.

    But we still all know what it means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus_Phish View Post
    I'm almost certain everyone here knows what indie means.

    And just like the record companies of old who used to put music on discs, indie bands, turn into indie labels, which gets bigger and bigger, until indie means more than it's grass roots.

    But we still all know what it means.
    I don't think you do - I really don't.

    "Indie" has been perverted in gaming as much as it has in music - EA do 'Indie' stuff - people release software through Steam, the biggest DD service there is run by a major developer/publisher, are they still 'indie'?

    Is Cliffski over at Positech 'indie' I don't think he knows/is sure about that tbh

    Even if you stick to 'not published by a major publisher' there's a massive range of games from one-man-band stuff upto studios of dozens of people publishing 'indie'.

    It's as meaningless and definitionless with games as anywhere else now...

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