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    [VS] StratGir Wednesdays - [RPS] Outfit Ops

    Welcome new (and returning) players!

    I set up the Rock, Planet, Shotgun outfit as a place for readers of RPS to try out Planetside 2. Therefore new players are always welcome. The focus has always been on providing a fun & firendly place to shoot lasers above all else.

    Wednesday nights we get a bit more 'strategic'

    What to expect:

    * Friendly atmosphere
    * 12 person VOIP channels (which makes asking questions as a new player easier)
    * Squad leaders who will direct you through the fights
    * High-level coordination between our platoons and allied outfits.

    What not to expect:
    * Very strict discipline
    * Anything vaguley militaristic

    Requirements:
    * A desire to shoot lasers (or revive allies, repair vehicles).
    * Skill in hitting targets not necessary.
    * Be excellent to one another.
    * Mumble We don't need you to have or use a microphone. But it will be necessary for you to join our Mumble server & listen-in. Any problems please send an in-game whisper to me. (Type: "/t Cooper" and then your message into the chatbox.)

    We tend to have a friendly, mildly chaotic format on most nights. Thursday nights are intended to be just as friendly, but somewhat less chaotic. Feel free to chat as you run about shooting lasers.

    For those joining us for the first time, your first move should be to join our Mumble server. Details are in the post linked in the RPS article, and are linked below. Once in that channel you will be talked through the process of getting in game, joining platoons, and you will be setup with a squad leader.

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    Strategic Giraffes:

    On Wednesday nights, Rock, Planet, Shotgun [RPS] gets Strategic!

    Starts @ 7:30pm (GMT); try to be there a bit earlier to organise squds etc.


    How to join:
    Firstly: It's probably best that you've either rolled out with us before, or have been playing PS2 for a while now. For a more casual affiar, join us any other night, and particularly Purple Wednesdays

    1) Setup Mumble
    as per this thread
    Pay attention to what squad you have been put in and move yourself to that channel.
    Those planning to be PL or SL should follow the instructions for that.

    2) Join the 'Strategic Giraffe' Platoon
    You will then be allocated a squad. Make sure you are in the right Mumble channel

    3) Follow orders


    What to expect:
    On Thursdays we aim for more coordination and generally more efficiency. There will be a command structure, there will be more specific orders, and you will be expected to be engaged with this.

    What this does not mean is that this is a night for 'elite' playeers. Decent coordination is not the preserve of those with the better twitch skills. In fact, those of us in command roles are unlikely to be the highest scorers / K/D ration holders etc. Coordination is a different skill set than shooting lasers.

    Basic ground rules:
    • Be in Mumble

    A Mic is not required, but listening-in is. Those not in Mumble will be kicked from the platoon


    • Follow orders & be quick about it

    No going off and doing your own thing. And if an order is giving to get somewhere; go there. If the order is to reform at Warpgate, then type "/suicide" immediately.


    • This is not a democracy

    On most nights decisions are discussed first. Not on Thursdays. Only question orders if you think the SL has missed something incredibly important. (Which is not anything that can be seen on the map such as "base at waypoint is already being capped": If it's on the map, assume the SL knows)


    • Stick together

    This means: Not re-spawning straight away: Assume a medic is nearby and wait a little bit. It also means waiting at the sunderer / spawn room for fellow squad mates and moving out together.


    • Communication is only for relevant info

    During 'downtime' when not in the middle of a fight, chat and joke all you want. However mid-fight comms should only be used for the usual battle info: Enemy locations, status updates, coordination etc.


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    Personally I love the atmosphere we have in the Barney channel now of dozens of people having a friendly chat whilst occasionally shooting lasers, sometimes at the same thing.

    But I hear and understand the desire for something "a bit more organised".

    Solution: A trial run on Thursday of a "strategic giraffes" night.

    Summary:
    If you want to be involved in some more organised laser shoots, join us in the "strategic giraffes company" subchannel of the "Planetside 2 -> Barneys" channel in Mumble (see main thread) at 7pm on Thursday (6th December) in preparation for rollout at 7:30pm (GMT times)

    Don't let this description put you off. We're not looking for people to act in an incredibly regimented way. Rather, instead of the usual "the whole platoon spawns at the same sundy and generally runs in the same direction" style, we'll be doing things like keeping squads together and following dedicated pointmen, splitting into fireteams, moving through a base in unison, keeping each other alive, having squads focused on much more specific targets than just "get to the three points", fulfilling more specific roles etc. If this sounds like something you'd be interested in, please do join us.

    I'll roll as platoon leader for this night, but I fully expect people to step into this role on future nights. And set something like this up on an ad-hoc basis when the channel is getting too busy / chatty for them.

    Currrent planned setup:
    - Platoon leader (PL) (Cooper) in an otherwise empty Alpha Squad. (Note: No democratic decision making this night.)

    My reasoning is that all leadership certs are only available to SLs. Not being SL (especially being out of the command channel, also somewhat with map icons) hurts the PL role. Yet I don't want to also, actually, be an SL whilst I am PL. If I've learnt anything the past few weeks, it's that actively trying to lead a platoon means that actually trying to 'play the game' (read: shoot lasers) often needs to take a backseat. There's nothing worse than being asked for orders and being unable to because you are running for your life (I tend to do that a lot. Take that as an indication of how good a leader I am if you wish...). I fully expect to be spending 90% of my time on Thursday just with the map & command chat open.

    - Three Squad Leaders (SL) in Bravo, Charlie and Delta channels
    Please pipe up here if you want to volunter for the SL role. Only gumption and at least one bar in the "Spawn Beacon" certification (Squad leadership tree) needed.
    SLs should create a whipser to the #command token. I'll take people through that process on the night.

    - Three Fireteam leaders (and 2nd in command)
    Either pipe up here or volunteer on the night. Should also be listening-in to the #command token whisper, if not regularly speaking up in there.

    - 5 Fireteam members per fireteam (10 per squad)

    - A second platoon if space needed and / or for more specialised, dedicated role players
    If you would like to put together a specialised squad (I think mostly pilots would fit here), let's try and get that organised here first.

    Planned channel setup:
    Code:
    Planetside 2
    _| Barneys
        _| Strategic Giraffes Company
            _|Platoon 1    
                _| Alpha
                    Cooper (PL)
                _| Bravo
                    Bravo Squad Leader / Fireteam 1 Leader
                    Bravo Fireteam 1 Member 1
                    Bravo Fireteam 1 Member 2
                    Bravo Fireteam 1 Member 3
                    Bravo Fireteam 1 Member 4
                    Bravo Fireteam 1 Member 5
                    Bravo Fireteam 2 Leader
                    Bravo Fireteam 2 Member 1
                    Bravo Fireteam 2 Member 2
                    Bravo Fireteam 2 Member 3
                    Bravo Fireteam 2 Member 4
                    Bravo Fireteam 2 Member 5
                _| Charlie
                    As Bravo channel
                _| Delta
                    As Bravo channel
            _|Platoon 2 (If needed, possibly for dedicated role players (e.g: pilots))
                _| Alpha
                _| Bravo
                _| Charlie
                _| Delta

    Those of you who've played on ARPS's tactical tuesdays (I really keep meaning to go back to those: Anyone looking for firendly & organised play will always find it there) will notice this is a bit different. My main reasoning being that, well, they're different games. Planetside 2 moves faster, and you die faster.

    Smaller fireteams don't make much sense in a situation where half or more are likely dead within 2 minutes. If half dead = no medics, then fireteams will be spending most of their time split-up, waiting for those respawning to join them, or, conversely, running to catch up with the rest of the FT. Given the scale of the game, I'm not sure it it makes much sense to split a 12-person squad channel up; direct communication with a smaller group of poeple is gonna limit your knowledge off what's going on in the field too much.

    That being said, if things are getting too busy with 2x6-person fireteam communications per channel, we can review this. This is largely intended as a trial night to see what works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CROCONOUGHTKEY
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    le BANG~__-MICHEAL FUCK OFF~~__-INTERPOL KNOW YOU WELLBIENG~—
    OFF
    NOT RUSHMORE MOUNTAIN
    KILL WESTON KILL MUST KILLTHEWESTERNINMYHEADDOESN’TEXSIST
    TEXASISDEADINPARISHEWASAMAN..BINGBING.TETTOHEAD.SP ACEOK,TIMEDEADANDSTOPPED1920HOKKAIDO.UNDERSTOODAT1 ONE.
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    BANG

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    I will try and be around for this. I'm happy to take a squad leader or fire team leader role as needed.

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    Damnit, dont have time on thursday. Have to tend to robots making cocktails. Well, maybe next thursday then.
    - Tom De Roeck.

    verse publications & The Shopkeeper, an interactive short.

    "Quantacat's name is still recognised even if he watches on with detached eyes like Peter Molyneux over a cube in 3D space, staring at it with tears in his eyes, softly whispering... Someday they'll get it."

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    Will try to make it, happily taking orders and dying for the Scary Voice Man.
    Steam: krusader83 | Origin: Sceptrum
    Planetside 2: SceptrumVS (Miller) : SceptrumNC (Cobalt) : SceptrumTR (Cobalt)

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    Grr, Thursday means I probably won't make it. In case I do, though: Anyone up for an infiltration and/or sniping squad?

    Also, for clarity: It's 7:30pm GMT, isn't it?

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    I'll volunteer for SL if no one else wants it, dont have much of a cv to my name though, got a spawn beacon and a colorful smoke nade haha.

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    I'm up for SLing on Thursday, I'd like to lead a LA squad ideally.
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    Damn, just scheduled a D&D game for Thursday, but otherwise I'd be up for squad leadership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naum View Post
    Grr, Thursday means I probably won't make it. In case I do, though: Anyone up for an infiltration and/or sniping squad?

    Also, for clarity: It's 7:30pm GMT, isn't it?
    Aye.

    As for infantry-based squads, I'd be wary of over specialisation.

    Without at least one medic per fireteam, things will unravel fast.

    Having something like a MAX fireteam with a medic certed so they can revive MAXs and an engineer or two makes sense. Same with a fireteam made up of mostly LAs, or HAs, infiltrators or something like that. But I'd avoid single-role fireteams.

    As for infiltrators, they're most use spread between fireteams. having a spotter who can relay enemy ground infantry movements throughout a base is a boon. They can't do that if they're all in a FT of their own.
    Quote Originally Posted by CROCONOUGHTKEY
    KING GEORGE IS A FROG
    le BANG~__-MICHEAL FUCK OFF~~__-INTERPOL KNOW YOU WELLBIENG~—
    OFF
    NOT RUSHMORE MOUNTAIN
    KILL WESTON KILL MUST KILLTHEWESTERNINMYHEADDOESN’TEXSIST
    TEXASISDEADINPARISHEWASAMAN..BINGBING.TETTOHEAD.SP ACEOK,TIMEDEADANDSTOPPED1920HOKKAIDO.UNDERSTOODAT1 ONE.
    UNDERSTANDTHISANDFUCKOFFPIRATEBAY.TIMEDOESNTEXSIST FORMEASIMPATEKPHILLPE.
    BANG

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    I'm a fairly inexperienced player, but I enjoy running as a medic (BR 11). I've certed the Jesus Bomb almost to the top (only the 200 tier remaining - the Jesus Bomb I believe is more useful, as the player is capable of both firing and healing), plus put about 40 certs in each of the med tool and flak armour. I also have about 150 unspent CPs, and I wouldnt mind spending them where the team would deem them more useful. If you'd have me along, I'd like to give it a try.

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    I am in.
    Playing as medic i guess.

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    Though my main is a filthy smurf I'm eager to play PS2 in an organized manner and would join with my vanu alt.

    Obviously I haven't certed anything so I'd just be a lowly grunt.

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    I want to lead a squad. Sounds great overall!

    edit: Actually, I might just go MAX instead, making squad leading not an option (why is this btw?). Certing that up and really really enjoying it, so.
    Last edited by RIDEBIRD; 04-12-2012 at 07:43 AM.

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    I will be up for this pending my availability on Thursdays.

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    I'm not always available on a Thursday, but if I am I will definitely be up for this.

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    This sounds like excellent fun although I won't be able to make this Thursday. Persuading my girlfriend that I should have one dedicated gaming night was tough enough, particularly with 'you play any other free chance you get' being a fairly reasonable riposte on her behalf.

    Looking forward to hearing how you get on and hopefully I'll be able to join you in the future.

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    I would love to join in on this. However, just a slight problem or two.

    1. I can't get my mic working at all for some reason (I've got one of those Creative USB headsets).

    2. Consequently, I can't get an invite to the Outfit.

    3. I'm colourblind so the difference between squad member colours and enemy colours can be a pain in the arse if I'm not concentrating.

    4. My in game name is Aircool, but I had to register in these forums under a different name.

    I used to be a sneaky beaky in the RAF and enjoy working in a team in online games, especially being told what to do as it's nice not to shoulder any responsibility when playing games

    Here's my stuff.

    I've got access to...

    A Scythe with rocket pods.
    A Libby with the 105mm Howitzer.
    A Lightning with HEAT or AAA
    A Magrider with either HEAT or AP and the big vehicle sniper laser.
    I think there's a 'nade launcher on my Sundy, but I never drive one.

    I've unlocked the twin flak guns for a top banana AA MAX.
    I'm quite happy to take up support roles as my close combat skills are decidely average (I'm getting on a bit and my twitch shooting days are behind me). At close quarters I prefer to use the night sights as it's easy to see enemies.
    Last edited by Cobalt Stargazer; 04-12-2012 at 11:56 AM.

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    The mic is not a maor issue, though having one helps.

    Since you posted your name here, someone (I'll do it too) will add you as a friend, when you accept that, if that person is online you can get an outfit invite from them when you're online. It'd also help if you add people listed in the Server thread as friends, which you can do while they're offline, unlike stupid outfit invites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus_Phish View Post
    The mic is not a maor issue, though having one helps.

    Since you posted your name here, someone (I'll do it too) will add you as a friend, when you accept that, if that person is online you can get an outfit invite from them when you're online. It'd also help if you add people listed in the Server thread as friends, which you can do while they're offline, unlike stupid outfit invites.
    Thanks for that. I'll try and get a mic solution sorted as soon as I can.

    [edit]

    Is there a list of member names anywhere that are in one, easy to read list?
    Last edited by Cobalt Stargazer; 04-12-2012 at 12:00 PM. Reason: Forgot something... doh!

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    You can find a small list of some people here
    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/foru...68-Server-List

    Most of those people play quiet a bit.

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