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    You're not wrong because I for one would like more regular and more tactical play. I suspect there may be others in a similar position. I've been gently making this point off and on for a while now that RPS does the first two categories frequently and well but the last one only rarely.

    Discipline is key in all of this and if we can get people following orders (which means waiting etc.) on a regular night then that's our solution. This has hitherto proven difficult and alternatives such as having a regular tactical group has, understandably, been met with the suggestion that it would create an unwanted clique. I'm not sure what the answer is but I think it's worth discussion, perhaps at the next outfit meeting?
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    Good to know Wally! I guess as someone relatively new I don't know how things like this before have worked and been handled.

    I've been in large clans for other games - tf2, cs etc and when there's been similar situations it's more been a case of these people will sometimes play together more but they're still part of the community and understand that some people are more casual.

    Further discussion would be good I think. I love RPS as an outfit and appreciate how varying it is but ps2 is missing the tactical edge for me just now that I crave.

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    StratGir day!

    I'm really keen to squad lead tonight. Not played a lot recentley, but want to get on the ground shooting, while being in an actually effective squad. Think can make progress with that.

    We got anyone up for Platoon Leading tonight.

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    Bump.

    Yes! StratGir! Let's do this!

    I'm up for some Platoon Leading tonight, sure.

    However... If there is anyone else who would particularly like to lead then i'm happy to SL or lead a TopGir squadron.
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    YES! I'm excited for this. Any prospective SLs intending to do some really tight squad play?

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    Whilst TopGir etc are great fun for those involved, and also really useful (I FUCKING love TopGir, so don't take this the wrong way), I can't help but feel that we neglect our ground troops for it sometimes.

    Bear with me, this is related to topic!

    It's numbers essentially. Last night is a good example. Once the air training had finished, everyone headed to an air squad. we we're running with a squad whilst are had more. That's fine and all, but then people left the ground troops to play other things, leaving us with about 7 people. Not great fun. it was about 10-11pm BST to be fair though. /whine

    Anyhoo, can we have an "Old Skool" StratGir night. Ridebird Style (first person to alter Gangnam style to feature Ridebirds forum avatar and the words "Ridebird Style" earns a purple giraffe and my eternal respect).

    I'm happy to SL a squad if we're doing this and would encourage those from the RideBird days do so too. fits with squad cohesion week too!

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    Crazy(ish) idea to try on Stratgir nights:

    Organising a Max Crash. Want a good mix of MAX/engi.
    PL order: Alpha 1-10 pull maxes. Bravo 1-10 pull engi, follow the Max matching your number (follow, not lead). 11 + 12 both squads - medic, rezz medics first, then max, then engi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CMaster View Post
    Crazy(ish) idea to try on Stratgir nights:

    Organising a Max Crash. Want a good mix of MAX/engi.
    PL order: Alpha 1-10 pull maxes. Bravo 1-10 pull engi, follow the Max matching your number (follow, not lead). 11 + 12 both squads - medic, rezz medics first, then max, then engi.
    I'd have reservations about this - purely because I don't believe the 10 people wanting to max and the 10 people wanting to engi will be in the same squads. It makes sense to not only go with what people prefer but also what they have spec'd best.
    Maybe just having battle buddies would be enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephas View Post
    I'd have reservations about this - purely because I don't believe the 10 people wanting to max and the 10 people wanting to engi will be in the same squads. It makes sense to not only go with what people prefer but also what they have spec'd best.
    Maybe just having battle buddies would be enough?
    Trying to create pairs rarely works out. I'm prepared to give it a go again, but this was something that could be created ad hoc.

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    Is it easy enough to switch about squads so we can have 1 max and 1 engi based on specs/preferences from a PL point of view? Or is it easier to order with a squad? In which case you could have 1-engi 2-max 3-engi 4-max etc.

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    the problem with assigning roles via positions is that we don't have loadout requirements. alpha 3-8 may only have a non-specced max with a single AI arm, while delta 2-10 may be vets that all have tricked out maxes. Organising this within the squads would probably be more viable, but also a pain in the ass to coordinate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qaz View Post
    the problem with assigning roles via positions is that we don't have loadout requirements. alpha 3-8 may only have a non-specced max with a single AI arm, while delta 2-10 may be vets that all have tricked out maxes. Organising this within the squads would probably be more viable, but also a pain in the ass to coordinate.
    Yup that's what I was getting at (although a lot less succinctly). Some good co-ordinated MAX crashes could be a lot of fun though =]

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    If you want to go for all out per squad then this would need to be organised at the platoon inception, all tricked out MAXs to Alpha please, all tricked out Engineers to Bravo please, all tricked out Medics to Charlie please etc. When I run MAX crashes I tend to run a squad with 6 MAXs, 3 Eng, 2 Med and an Infil (sensor darts, I just love them). Everyone has their own take on this though and I love being in my MAX heh!
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    A big thanks to all RO's and SL's who stepped up during the night and did an immaculate job. Tonight everyone was excellent in every sense of the word. I witnessed cohesion, discipline and above all else enjoyment.

    SG for C2A:5 was awesome, but this was probably the best i've ever Platoon Lead and by far the most enjoyable. A great deal of that was down to all of you, so thanks guys!

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    Edit: Oh! Almost forgot to mention. I was Liasing with TVA and they were fighting along side us from Quartz Ridge till Hvar, specifically VC. Nothing but good things to report from them, as usual. The cooperation was great.

    So all in all an evening to honor and rival the old days!
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    I would agree. I had a tremendous time leading Bravo, and I think that tonight was a great success. I got the impression that everyone had fun, Nick was a great PL, and we had some fun and interesting fights.

    Squad cohesion worked well, everyone did what was needed, and at times I think that RPS really did punch above their weight. Thanks to everyone who took part, special thanks to Nick for leading, and extremely special thanks to Bravo Squad for putting up with my mistakes and working as a unit.

    PS - Also, points to LaKroy and Wardancers for helping me run the Squad.

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    [VS] StratGir: The King Is Dead, Long Live The King

    So, this was kinda glossed over during the meeting. If anyone has any thoughts on how to improve stratgir and "bring it back to what it used to be, this would be the right place.

    I'll start.

    Stratgir used to mean that only our most experienced SLs were supposed to lead during this. New members were kind of barred from SLing during stratgir, at leat until they had gathered enough experience in pling during casual nights. I think this was a good thing that might be worth revisiting, but seeing how quite a few of the experienced leads aren't consistently playing, filling the spots might be an issue.

    Another issue is that strategy used to be what decided fights, but thanks to lattice it's almost irrelevant now. So, all that matters is the execution, in other words the tactical side of things. Stratgir could be a great format for trying new stuff and to generally play with a pure tactics and squad focus. I still feel that this is incompatible with the new comms system, but that's a different topic, i guess.

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    Should we go with "Tactical Thirsdays" instead then, for a while at least?

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    Or do Stratgir exclusively on Amerish because there isn't a lattice there. Yet.

    Tactical Thursday sounds good, but it might be a little confusing with Tactical Training Tuesdays. Unless you spin it that the tuesday is the training for the thursday.

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    gave you your own thread, mqx, its worth it.

    original thread here: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/foru...organised-quot
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    Okay, so the next one is tonight. I'm going to be playing, since my cough denies me the pleasure of going to that dancer friend'sbirthday party.


    I'll be looking to lead a squad, to take the initiative on the "vets leading for StratGir" thing qaz suggested. I'd be most pleased if there was someone else who would want to lead a sister-squad and trying out some two-squad tactics again. Fixing/flanking, armour/infantry, assault/disrupt. Preferably, this would be done with these two squads being given orders as one unit, and using pretty tight coordination and communication between the two SLs, or even the whole squads.

    does this sound at all interesting to anyone?

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