Sir Moore certainly made an impact on the lives of many through a varied career, which I mostly remember for his time as the GamesMaster!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939
Sir Moore certainly made an impact on the lives of many through a varied career, which I mostly remember for his time as the GamesMaster!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20657939
*sad face*
Godspeed Patrick
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The staunch anti-immigration "English not British" nonsense was always disgusting. His support for Enoch Powell is pretty damned nasty, but at least consistent. No wonder he had issues with the Race Relations Act
But it's the homophobia that leads him to lie about AIDS that annoys me the most. Alongwith the outright belief that the BBC had somehow been ruined by women.
Racist, Sexist, Homophobe.
What I thought of him, wtaching him on tele as a kid, as some nice old interesting man, isn't really enough to bypass his hate and vileness. Good riddance.
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So... He did some good stuff. And he did some bad stuff. He was man then, I guess. RIP.
Amen. He brought such class to a gaming show. Unlike these twats:
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I think you can most appropriately say he did some things. No matter if you attach a value to it or not.
(and PS: yes, I attach the same value to it)
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I love that people are upset that an 89-year-old held (or at least had held) racists or sexist views - that's a massive fucking surprise isn't it :)
The same people probably never listen to Wagner - they're keeping themselves for only the more pristine of artistic endeavours, unsullied by anything as complex as the fact that the world changes - and people change - and they're unable to grasp that simple concept because everything is so 'right on' for them.
He was a member of the UKIP and so anti-Europe and, in fairness, when a large amount of Europe spent a few years trying to kill him, I can sort-of understand that - I'd probably share the view...
The men who built the Bridge over the River Kwai probably never bought a Toyota either...
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Age isn't a reason to be ignorant.homosexuals are mainly responsible for the spreading of AIDS (the Garden of Eden is home of Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve)
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Except that whilst all this stuff is coming back into public thought now, that he's died, the fact remains that this is probably a case of the good out-weighing the bad. He inspired many with an infectious enthusiasm for astronomy. That will be his legacy, not that his political views were highly questionable.
I saw Patrick Moore live on Room 101 with Paul Merton. One of the things he chose to put into Room 101 was those "name a star" scams you used to see in the ad pages of some newspapers. He related a story where a young girl had died after a prolonged illness, and this man saw one of those adverts and sent off some money to have a star named after her as a memorial.
He then explained that stars and other celestial bodies haven't been named for years now, as the convention was instead to give them code numbers, and that these adverts were nothing but a con, and that they had lied to a grieving father and exploited a child's death just so they could rip him off. The way he spoke about this was genuinely touching. He was disgusted with these people and not shy to say it, and was hoping to get the word out on tv about it even though it had no effect on him whatsoever, because it wasn't about him, it was about innocent people being hurt.
Oh but he had silly views about immigration, so let's pop open the champagne because a flawed old man died, and we're all perfect and alive.
I'd agree upto a point - but then I've not lived through a World War and so I have less of a view ;)
Hell the changes in the world in the 40-odd years I've been in it are scary enough - I reckon if I make it to 89 you'll be able to catalog a wide range of views 'not consistent with the modern world' too :)
I feel that a person's background DOES influence how you take their views - as does how they promote them. The vast majority of people are 'ist' to some degree, but most don't actually promote it.
My Dad used words like "Blacks" and "Darkies" but to my knowledge he held nothing against any person based on their skin colour - he just used terms which 'right on' people have decided are now unacceptable.
If you're waiting for everyone to be totally 'PC' you'll be waiting a long time because the goalposts don't just move - they're warp-powered...
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