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    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Sigar View Post
    I have never bought a special edition, collectorís edition, or chocolate sprinkles edition. Itís always baffled me how people are willing to fork out in some cases hundreds of pounds for a cheap plastic model and a couple of frivolous in-game items. Now Iím not saying Iím better than these people, butÖ

    No wait, thatís exactly what Iím saying.
    Alternatively maybe the people that buy them are just that much more into gaming culture than you are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    Alternatively maybe the people that buy them are just that much more into gaming culture than you are?
    I think you can be very much into whatever creative culture you want without having to consume the tat that surrounds them.

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    Agree with that. It's the same attitude I have with buying films on DVD. I want to watch the film, so generally get the vanilla version, just as I want to play the game, so buy standard edition. If it is a couple more pounds than I do sometimes get a special edition, but I usually end up not looking at the extras.

    In the case of DE:HR, I've got the Amazon Limited Edition, as they don't seem to have a standard one. The Augmented Edition is an extra £7, which is quite a bit more when I'm only interested in the extra mission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjonson View Post
    I think you can be very much into whatever creative culture you want without having to consume the tat that surrounds them.
    Well ultimately it comes down to personal value judgement (one mans tat is another mans prized possession). I've no interest in figurines, so I'm not getting the collectors edition, however I am interested in 'the making of' and Art book because I actively like seeing the process behind things. For the same reason that I'll buy the 2 disc edition of a film if I think the extras are worth it and I'm interested in them. Generally if I think something is over priced I'll wait until it hit a suitable price point and then purchase it.

    The point of my response was not to defend the editions aspect, more point out the absurdity of Drake Sigar assertion.

    On that note. I do dislike substantial pre-order bonuses, simply because they force people to take a gamble on a product that's not been reviewed. Sure you can usually get a good idea as to the relative worth of a game prior to release from previews, but in the event that you are undecided and thus holding out for a proper review, you're missing out. That to me seems wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    Well ultimately it comes down to personal value judgement (one mans tat is another mans prized possession). I've no interest in figurines, so I'm not getting the collectors edition, however I am interested in 'the making of' and Art book because I actively like seeing the process behind things. For the same reason that I'll buy the 2 disc edition of a film if I think the extras are worth it and I'm interested in them. Generally if I think something is over priced I'll wait until it hit a suitable price point and then purchase it.

    The point of my response was not to defend the editions aspect, more point out the absurdity of Drake Sigar assertion.

    On that note. I do dislike substantial pre-order bonuses, simply because they force people to take a gamble on a product that's not been reviewed. Sure you can usually get a good idea as to the relative worth of a game prior to release from previews, but in the event that you are undecided and thus holding out for a proper review, you're missing out. That to me seems wrong.
    Ah yeah, I see what you're saying. I've got stuff that friends really wouldn't see any value in at all, an Aperture science pint glass for instance.. although you can drink pints out of it, maybe a bad example :) Yeah, the eye of the beholder and all that..
    Regarding pre-order bonuses, I suppose they could be viewed in different ways- something interesting as incentive to get in early or cynical marketing ploy.. I'd mostly go with cynical marketing ploy although behind the scenes stuff for HR could be good, I probably won't fork out for it but I'd be interesting in watching it, if it's actually substantial and not just al load of tat roped together :)
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    I got Oregon Trail 3 for my birthday when I was a lad, and it came in a wooden box that slid open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    Alternatively maybe the people that buy them are just that much more into gaming culture than you are?
    Maybe I’m being a bit of a purist, but I think we should just get back to enjoying the games. I do realize however, that mainstream popularity has its price and I’m probably going to have to suffer through subpar novels, gimmicky pre-order bonuses, and sleazy merchandizing for the rest of my life. Thankfully the benefits are totally worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    Stating your intentions on a general gaming forum doesn't cut the mustard Vs writing to said publishers and saying 'I'm not buying DXHR at release because...(insert long reasoned stance)'. Protesting through denial is ineffective unless you make the subject aware as to your boycott.
    Maybe I could lease a billboard and hire a skywriter to drive my point home. Or just not buy things I think are a ripoff.

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    I believe there is an extra mission and character (which may be a horrible way of making the dog sound more important) which was the clincher for me. It is mostly because I love Mass Effect so much I don't want to miss out on any part of it but I will be buggered if I play £70 at launch then another £30 for DLC a few month later.

    Looking at the way the extra character and mission is mentioned on game I am wondering if they are just the new buyer items as with Mass Effect 2 which I guess does make it more appealing. Still think I will be waiting till it is super cheap and there's no more content for it I don't really have the desire to go back to many games once I have finished them and with something that is supposed to be as climactic as ME3 endgame content just seems absurd.

    On the subject of Deus Ex for whoever was saying the soundtrack is not in the Augmented Edition on the amazon listing it is supposedly on the bonus DVD
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    I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul. This means that I buy the collectors editions of all new Fallout games. Casino chips, comics, playing cards, bobble heads, lunchboxes - they're all cool. I can't explain why I want to own them but I do. Why do people collect stamps or anything else for that matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashbox View Post
    Maybe I could lease a billboard and hire a skywriter to drive my point home. Or just not buy things I think are a ripoff.
    Hey if you want to 'silently' protest games that's your prerogative. After all why let reason get in the way of making a personal statement that will impress us all. I personally look forward to you reminding us endlessly in every DX:HR thread and article to the end of time, about how you never bought it, and will never buy it it because of the whole 'rip off editions' thing. Fight the power!!

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    I dont get the confrontational attitude, Kadayi. Game looks awesome and I will buy it, but I won't get into the "ransoming the full experience" cynical marketing plan. Hopefully I can impress you in other ways.

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    Some people worry far too much about what other people spend their money on.

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    Never saw the point of these special editions either. The only one that looked vaguely appealing to me was the one for Anno 1404. It had almonds, man!

    But yeah, I'll just be getting the regular edition of Deus Ex as usual. Slightly irked that they see fit to take away a mission. I don't mind if they include making of's, soundtracks and what have you but increasingly we're seeing publishers take away a chunk of the game and reserve it for these special editions which is annoying. It's actually encouraged me to wait a while and get the GOTY version with it all included for a fraction of the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashbox View Post
    I dont get the confrontational attitude, Kadayi. Game looks awesome and I will buy it, but I won't get into the "ransoming the full experience" cynical marketing plan. Hopefully I can impress you in other ways.
    Let me see, probably because you initially posted this: -

    Quote Originally Posted by Smashbox View Post
    I deplore this practice, and I have not and will not buy a collectors' edition, deluxe edition, etc. or pre-order a game.
    And then when presented with a reasonable suggestion ('write to the publisher') posted this snarky response: -

    Quote Originally Posted by Smashbox View Post
    Maybe I could lease a billboard and hire a skywriter to drive my point home. Or just not buy things I think are a ripoff.
    You reap what you sow.
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    Ok I'll buy the expensive version. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashbox View Post
    Hopefully I can impress you in other ways.
    Removing that snark augmentation would be a good start.
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    Annnyway. Back on topic - I saw a great deal on Green Man Gaming for the standard version, activatable on Steam using this coupon code: FACEB-JULY4-20PEC. I think someone said it expires Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadayi View Post
    Hey if you want to 'silently' protest games that's your prerogative. After all why let reason get in the way of making a personal statement that will impress us all. I personally look forward to you reminding us endlessly in every DX:HR thread and article to the end of time, about how you never bought it, and will never buy it it because of the whole 'rip off editions' thing. Fight the power!!

    Is that the best video you could find for this?

    I'll one (OR TWO) up you:

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