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    Secondary Hivemind Nexus Wenz's Avatar
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    Attempt at lolpress

    Paying credits first: from Nobody's trying to take your games

    this is the bla
    http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/10/73...ed-not-ignored
    this is the review
    http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/16/472...and-theft-auto

    What Heliocentric read:
    I know a lot of people desperately want to believe that killing a prostitute in GTA 5 is the same as killing any other character, but it's really not. Unlike gangsters or cops or business dudes or hot dog vendors, prostitutes, as a class, are despised, marginalized and abused in real life, all the time. This means that GTA 5 takes its pleasure in humiliating and abusing victims of humiliation and abuse.
    9.5/10
    I was thinking of a thread to make quotes out of this kind of stuff. If it's big we may see out things changed through time (still changing) and how late criticism comes in some parts of the internet; metacritic, as everyone knows, allows critic reviews before user stuff whatever the -mostly toxic- content is.
    I don't really want to discuss things. Articles will do everything I think regardless of whatever game pops up. I'm basically looking for reviewers not doing their job and weird opinions popping out much later (which end up as stupid because of their timing and begging for reasonable users to deal with toxic ones).

    I got a soundtrack for this:p



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    Well, Carolyn Petit's review of GTA pointed out those problems from the start, even though she still gave it a 9, because, aside from its distasteful politics, the other elements of the game are still good.

    http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/gran.../1900-6414475/

    You can enjoy a work and still find it problematic. Most old literature has some issues with gender or race or slavery or nationalism that we'd find incredibly distasteful today, that doesn't mean that everything else about those works should be dismissed because of that one aspect. The myth of Adam and Eve is fundamentally sexist, and has arguably started an entire tradition that demonizes woman as temptation itself, but it's still a seminal narrative for talking about evil.

    Anyway, if you want to have a go at this, I suggest Bioshock Infinite as a good target.

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    @Melodymeows Yeah, all of that, but it's still mhe to read things following the hype only to come back later on stuff regardless of merits/complaints etc. It just doesn't look good on reviewers.

    Also yeah I remember Bogost shitting over bioshock after gone home happened.
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    I can agree with the sentiment behind this, sometimes it's ridiculous how much a game gets praised as it comes out, only to then be universally criticized for something or others a few months down the line.

    I guess I'd blame the hype industry most of all.
    And some reviewers may have not paid enough attention when writing the review etc., and some reviewers don't consider these problems as something that should be mentioned in the review at all. (The amount of harassment Carolyn Petit got for her GTAV review, way before GG existed, is one of the reasons why)

    I guess my problem with this is also that, some reviewers may have in good faith missed why a work was problematic, especially if it wasn't problematic for them specifically but for another group, and may have genuinely changed their minds and recognized those problems once someone else pointed them out. And I don't feel like telling people who have learned something and changed their minds in earnestness "Ha! How stupid you were 6 months ago!" or "You're a hypocrite, cause you learned stuff and changed your mind!".

    I'm not sure how to go about recognizing idiotic bandwagoning and jumping on the hype train from honest mistakes and personal growth. That's why I don't really feel comfortable with this.

    Oh, by the way: on B:I
    http://tevisthompson.com/on-videogame-reviews

    Very critical of the game, of its initial reviews, and of reviews as a whole.
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    I don't think you should think about what's in people minds because it's easy to make up. It's as distracting as late controversies and easy to post.
    I think some popular things don't get the lines they deserve; hype is a key word looking at adv's. That's pretty much it to me:p
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    btw, your can make your own lolpress, format is up there. I'd do it but my connection has gone cuckoo. The submit button is still loading:l
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelodyMeows View Post
    Oh, by the way: on B:I
    http://tevisthompson.com/on-videogame-reviews

    Very critical of the game, of its initial reviews, and of reviews as a whole.
    Wow. That was an awesome read. Thanks much. It's worth nothing, in the context of this thread, that Polygon has expressly stated their intention to re-visit and adjust review scores after-the-fact.

    Polygon will regularly adjust its assessment of games and hardware over the life of those products. These changes will always be explained and transparent. This is done completely at the discretion of Polygon writers and editors.

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    Lol /10000000
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt_W View Post
    Wow. That was an awesome read. Thanks much. It's worth nothing, in the context of this thread, that Polygon has expressly stated their intention to re-visit and adjust review scores after-the-fact.
    Sure, long after the metascore has informed millions of sales and polygon get their page impressions.
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    I'm not sure what to post from the kotaku links. The ending one builds a long case of bad things from evil devs an then says game's awesome despite being different from previous games. It's not like players would wake up the last 10 minutes by design.

    Actually I read a design thing around I couldn't save on the phone, turns out me3's c&c mhe all the way to the end (confirm this please) so it's not just the ending and kotaku builds up bullstuff for people to rage on.

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    http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/03/destiny-review
    http://www.ign.com/blogs/roni418/201...ppointing-goty

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/assassins-creed-unity
    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dr...ge-inquisition
    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/wo...rds-of-draenor
    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/ca...vanced-warfare
    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/far-cry-4
    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/bo...the-pre-sequel
    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/lords-of-the-fallen
    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dr...ook-one-reborn
    http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-evil-within
    http://www.ign.com/games/metal-gear-...oes/ps3-141058
    http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/03/25...roes-speed-run
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