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Thread: Humble Indie Bundle 7 Torrent
01-01-2013, 01:05 PM #1
Humble Indie Bundle 7 Torrent
This is a very interesting torrent that I noticed, if only for the interesting nature of the comments.
- "6.6$ for this pack is nothing, i bought it and i'm from a poor country
Buy it, help the charity"
- "this is one torrent i don't support"
- "guys these are indie games not ones made by EA or sumthing.....
give devs support that they need so that they can make more amaziing games!"
- "if you do not have five dollars to play these, maybe games aren't what you should be thinking about. especially if you have a family you cannot afford to feed why internet or the pc?"
And of course the less appealing members of our society weigh in as well...
- "BOOHOO who cares goddamn, this is a sharing website
i didn't even know there was this bundle or whatever, so i'm not going to not download these, go somewhere out of my way just so i can give away money.. get over yourselves."
But what's interesting is that the first group vastly outnumber the second.
Is this purely because of Humble Bundle's charity connection? Or is there a price people are willing to pay if low enough?
(Also I should add that this is the first torrent I've seen of any Humble Bundle)
01-01-2013, 01:21 PM #2
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It's because people have a totally fucked-up idea of what constitutes good vs bad when it comes to digital products and how you acquire them - partly caused by the retarded way most content producers approach digital but mostly produced because these people "socialise" in places where other wrong-headed fucking idiots form their worldview on the topic.
It's probably not wise to read anything into it at all really - every charity bundle (or the games theirin) are shared via 'all the usual means' - keys are shared (e.g. "pirates" download from the bundle owners own servers) and so on...
It's not 1 iota different from any other form of copyright abuse - attempting to suggest otherwise is crazytalk.
01-01-2013, 02:34 PM #3
Its nothing new for people in a torrent site to complain about a torrent.
Also, pirates tend to be fanatical when they decide to actually support something.
Many a year ago, I was a filthy pirate. I was a member of two (linked) communities. One for old games, one for new games (Admittedly, I spent most of my time grabbing "abandonware" off the former). Then GoG came around, and the old games site made a specific rule of "Do not post a GoG release". Initially it was on the principle that "They are doing a good thing and the least we can do is not use their installers". Then the sister site (which had a cutoff for old games to not be allowed on it) started allowing exceptions to be made for GoG releases. A lot of people (myself included) got pissed off, and that was actually the last time I ever really pirated games for anything less than a study of the DRM model and how it is negated.
I doubt too many other people abandoned their accounts though.
01-01-2013, 02:36 PM #4
Is it so hard to believe that people torrent games because they don't have money,but buy them later on.... I take the lives of a few to protect the lives of many. I commit acts of war to preserve the greater peace. I take no joy in killing, but make no mistake; I'll do what needs to be done. Because it's my job. It's my duty. My name is Sam Fisher, and I am a Splinter Cell.
01-01-2013, 02:42 PM #5
Yes. When you pirate a game and have no money, there is absolutely no motivational incentive to go back and pay for it once you do have funds.
Which is irrelevant in this case anyway, because the Humble Bundle only lasts a certain time. You either buy it before it ends or you can't buy it at all.
01-01-2013, 02:46 PM #6
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These days, given the success of GOG I think I would probably treat an abandonware download as a resolution to buy the game were it to appear on GOG.Irrelevant on further examination of the rest of the thread.
01-01-2013, 02:47 PM #7
Pretty much. Are there people who buy the games they torrent? Probably, but they are rare as crap. And, take it from experience, even when they say that and DO that, they still don't buy all the games. And if they do, they probably aren't buying it at its true "value".
Example: Freelancer. Amazingly fun ride, but linear as crap with no real opportunity for variety. So most people would put it in the "Maybe I'll do another run next year". So a game that would otherwise be worth 40-50 bucks ends up being purchased at 20 (because if you have already played it, you don't mind waiting for a good sale).
But don't worry, the industry has ways to resolve those problems. Multiplayer-focused games where the SP campaign is an after-thought :p
Simple fact of the matter is: If you can't afford a hobby, you shouldn't partake of it. I love painting miniatures and I think I would really love to play some 40k or FB. Unfortunately, I am not made of money. So I am not going to blow all my cash on building a single army and buying dozens of rule books. It sucks, but I instead find other hobbies that I CAN afford.
And that is just the people who actually DO buy the games they pirate, rather than just say so. And they are about as common as people who really are telling the truth when they say "I only act like that when I am drunk"
01-01-2013, 03:04 PM #8
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Originally Posted by Oshada
01-01-2013, 03:13 PM #9
01-01-2013, 03:52 PM #10
Also, completely offtopic, but I just found out about this. It's a very freeform skirmish based game system you can play with no more than 12 miniatures per side, and wich cares about nothing but FUN, also, it's supposedly really easy to learn. I've read good things about it but can't give any personal opinion since I'm yet to order it from amazon, but it seems like a nice way of giving use to some of the minis you might've painted. It's cheap as dirt anyway, so you might want to give it a try.
01-01-2013, 04:04 PM #11
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It's even being passed-down to kids - parents who pirate things as a matter of course just show their kids how to do it - I know several parents who have a 'dealer' for game discs in the way you would for weed or whatever...
Then there's the communities which form around torrent/NZB-type sites. I once used a site to get some TV programmes I'd missed and I noticed the RSS was broken (invalid format) so I posted to highlight the issue (e.g. offered a fix) and received nothing but a torrent of bile.
What was interesting was the complex system these fuckstones had developed to police and control their little universe. To highlight their (syntactical - technical) error was unacceptable - bordering on heretical - because I'd not posted any links or thanks or whatever else they called 'their rules'. They banned me until 2099 - which is amusing as their site was fucked-over shortly thereafter (not by me - honest!!).
It taps into the same bit of the brain - I reckon - that homeopathy and religion does. It's clear to anyone with half-an-ounce-of-sense that it's all utter bollocks - but they offer hope, a system for separating right and wrong/good and bad/sick and well.
All of these gullible berks react BADLY when you highlight that they're fucking crazy/wrong/breaking the law/undermining their hobby, because you're opening the door and showing them the (big, cold, unfriendly, unfair and miserable) real world that they're hiding from...
People are strange...
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01-01-2013, 04:12 PM #12
Then you have the people who want to play the latest and "greatest" games. But can't afford to buy them (but still somehow have a system that runs them super-sexily :p). Rather than play older titles for a while, they'll pirate. And there is no real call for that (and it hurts the industry in the long run*).
Occasionally a moron will call me out on having so many Steam games. But here is the thing: 99% of those were bought dirt cheap during a sale (or as part of a bundle), and I never go over my budget for entertainment (which I split across amazon video rentals, ebooks, music, games, tabletop stuff, etc). And if my car were to explode tomorrow in a manner that my crappy insurance won't cover (so basically anything, really), I have enough squirreled away to recover pretty quickly. How do I do this, you might ask? Proper budgeting and restraint. And that is it. If I don't have enough in my entertainment fund, I consider tapping my "stupid ass crap fund" (which mostly goes toward doing stupid and destructive things with dildos, since that entertains me :p). Or I just say "I'll get that at a better price point".
And thanks for the tip, I'll check that out. But as it stands, I mostly just use my miniatures either as decorations or miniatures for D&D. MUCH cheaper hobby :p. Buy your own Player's Handbook for quick reference, and go in with a group on the GM and Monster Manual books.
*: If you are going to say "Screw the industry, companies are your enemies!". Good for you. Now shut up :p
That's why I follow the simple rule of: Don't call people out personally unless they are REALLY stupid. Instead, make an observation. If someone thinks said observation applies to them, maybe they'll consider changing their ways. And if they don't think it applies to them/they are righteous, then nothing you can say will make a difference. You can't control other people, only yourself. So never do anything that won't let you look at yourself in the mirror, and try to work around the stupidity of others.
Fun fact: Three of them later moved on to breaking and entering cars/garages. When running from the cops one night, one of them got nabbed. The other two actually called him (I hope they didn't know he was caught) because they did not know where they were and needed a ride home. La Policia picked them up, and everyone who knew them had a good laugh when we found out what they moved on to (and that they were arrested). Of course, two of these kids were the ones who wanted to become pharmacists so they could sell prescription drugs on the side, so yeah...
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01-01-2013, 05:19 PM #13
01-01-2013, 06:34 PM #14
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In my case there was (better exists to this day) a little board which has specialized in mom & pop casual games with a "female" (not sure, if the person really is a she) administrator who has banned me from her little universe because I did not obey her formatting of posted stuff officially. The truth was that she was taking my own stuff, repackaged it with her own installer and my articles were "lost" or pushed into limbo. After reminding her that she should not do this, she really got mad (and paranoid).
Soon afterwards I quit this whole section of the internet for that there are some people who crosspost their stuff on dozens of boards and blogs for the intent of making money off one click hoster and/or referall links and I got more and more disgusted until I left.
Currently, I'm purchasing most games I play from regular, legal download shops (steam, gog, gmg et al). I own some games in boxed copy versions, a GOG one and a steam one.
Most extreme case are the Edna & Harvey games, for I own the special collectors boxed set, the Edna & Harvey double special collectors edition (is a bit lame, sadly), the GOG.COM version and I'm planning to buy it on steam (achievements).
01-01-2013, 06:54 PM #15
I've pirated -and I will continue to pirate, however I use it as a "tester". If there were more demo's I wouldn't need to, that's not justification because pirating is still illegal, but I feel a lot better dropping 40 pounds on a game if I know that it works on my computer and I'm sure I'll play it at least a little bit.
Obviously, I still gamble on games in the sales and I'll frequently pre-order games if I like the series or the pre-release press is good, but sometimes there's a game right on the fence that I'm not sure if I'll like, but I'm intrigued by. [Sleeping Dogs would have been just one of those games, although I didn't pirate it, and haven't pirated for about a year]
If I do like it, I'll drop the cash on it as soon as I've established there are no technical errors and it's a game I want to play more of. If I don't like it, I uninstall it, because I don't want to spend any more time on it. Evaluation period is generally about an hour or so.
01-01-2013, 07:31 PM #16
I dont know if Im the only one doing this but I torrent huge size games after I buy them from steam. Its because I cant run steam download for more than 2 hours as it tend to suck all my internet speed and its a pain since Im sharing the internet with other people. With torrents I can change how much kbps I will allot.
01-01-2013, 09:33 PM #17
Bandwidth caps? What an exceedingly strange and archaic concept.
By the way, props to the right use of 'allot'. I think this is the first time I've ever seen it used correctly on an internet message board.
01-01-2013, 09:44 PM #18
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You can tell english isn't his first language.
01-01-2013, 09:55 PM #19
Is that a requirement around here?
01-01-2013, 10:13 PM #20
Not at all! You probably speak better English than I do and that's my Only language. :D L