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  1. #1921
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    lol, drifters are going to be hilarious. i recommend everyone exploits the shit out of them until they inevitably get a hotfix in a few weeks because no one can hit LAs anymore.

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    That might actually make drifters useful but I do not think it will be that overpowered because you cannot change direction on the drifter yet. Moving in a straight line is usually not that healthy even if it is fairly fast.

    Love the new burster changes, just hope the skyguard buffs makes up for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus_Phish View Post
    Don't think I'm a fan of any of the "unmasked" versions. Then again, the helmet I use in game encases my whole face so I might be biased.
    It seems like anything where you can see the eyes makes your character look like a lifeless dummy, staring blankly ahead with a never changing expression. As soon as you cover the eyes it's suddenly much more lifelike, hence my interest in some sort of visor-based headwear. I quite like seeing a bit of face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wardancer View Post
    That might actually make drifters useful but I do not think it will be that overpowered because you cannot change direction on the drifter yet. Moving in a straight line is usually not that healthy even if it is fairly fast.
    The video shows two LAs circle-strafing at some speed. Tribes Ascendside 2?

    It's nice that the 300m usable range of the thermal optics will bring aricraft nicely into the lowered Burster MAX effective range as well - if both changes make it to the live servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eltdown View Post
    The video shows two LAs circle-strafing at some speed. Tribes Ascendside 2?

    It's nice that the 300m usable range of the thermal optics will bring aricraft nicely into the lowered Burster MAX effective range as well - if both changes make it to the live servers.

    Ah I always assumed drivers would just be in a straight line. Well the change is still welcome if it goes live imho. LA could do with some more gimmicks to make them useful. But they really should reduce the turn speed to let people slide quickly into or out of a fight.

    Edit: Seems to be intentional, was a screencap of a dev ingame chat that mentioned they might have to tone down max speed but that they are now super fun to use.
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    I like the idea of the change to LA. LA's are by their nature an annoying class. This makes them more annoying. Like a fly who keeps buzzing around your room.
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    I'm thinking about how this interacts with pump action shotguns. People moan that pump actions require no skill and I ignore them because it's s skill to get close enough to make them useful. With these jets it should be a lot easier to glide, shoot and go. Great fun for the LA (I will enjoy doing this!) But especially annoying for people getting killed that way leading to more moaning and therefore a probable nerf.
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    1. glide in
    2. drop c4
    3. glide out
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    Is it just me, or does anyone else feel that our current WarpGate on Esamir is back-to-front?

    Normally, the vehicles spawn facing towards the terminals/infantry area. Which also usually means they're facing towards the main part of the continent. But on Esamir, although they still face the terminals/infantry, they're facing the wrong way for the rest of the map... The whole WarpGate needs to be rotated at least 90 degrees.

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    The thing is, drifters have always existed in the game. All they are changing, afaik, is that clipping into ground no longer stops the drift. The only advantage you gain at ground level is being able to travel at sprint speed in one direction while facing/firing in another. It may be enough to exploit for great profit, but I wouldn't expect too much from something that has been in the game from release yet is practically never used (eg. drifting over enemies and dropping C4 is totally totally feasible with current drifters, it's just that you can basically do the same thing with the regular jets plus fly upwards).

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    Doesn't tell us anything new, but it seems that this is worth linking:
    Creative Director's Letter

    Quote Originally Posted by Higby
    Hey guys -

    GU11 is right around the corner and I wanted to drop in and call out some of the major features coming with the update. When we started working on this update we decided it would be a pure "Quality of Life" patch, with a minimum of additions in terms of new items or systems and a lot of refinement, tuning and enhancements to the things you've already got.

    A few weeks ago we asked you guys for what you wanted to see updated and got an absolutely massive list of requests ranging from minor nitpicks all the way up to fundamental game changing suggestions, and those requests have guided how we've approached and prioritized the changes for this update. We didn't get anywhere near touching everything that was requested, but did get through a pretty decent chunk and the rest that we've either run out of time for or are larger challenges than can fit into one update we're continuing to work on and prioritize for the next several updates. Of course, whenever taking suggestions from a community as large and diverse as the Planetside 2 community it's impossible to find changes that are universally agreed on or prioritize everyone's top issues as the top development issue, but we have done our very best to make this an update that brings as many benefits to as many of you as possible.

    As usual, full patch notes will be available before the update goes out, but here are a couple highlights:


    • Light Assault Drifter Jumpjets have been enhanced to provide a speed boosts while using them on flat ground, these should now provide a new alternative gameplay role for Light Assault.
    • Continent domination thresholds have been adjusted to make achieving OR breaking continent domination a viable goal during primetime. Continents will change ownership when an empire owns 75% of the territory, and their ownership will break when they're reduced to below 15%.
    • Resource cost for some vehicles and MAXes has been increased
      • We hope this change makes strategic control of resources more important for empires, and we're also looking at the results of this tuning to help us define the boundaries for the upcoming resource system revamp.
      • We will be monitoring resource usage and earn rates carefully in the days following the update and rebalancing as necessary if we find any significant issues with resource starvation due to this rebalancing.

    • Instant Action has had it's values retuned to bring players to fights that need more players from their empire.
    • New movement code has been introduced which will make remote player movement much smoother, reducing player warping and removing a lot of the ability to quickly change direction and glitch out the movement interpolation and avoid damage.
    • ZOE Module has been buffed to have less distortion particles in 1st person =)
    • ZOE Module has been nerfed to further reduce armor (-25% -> -30%) when the ability is active =(
    • Weapon tuning:
      • Retuned the Empire Specific Heavy weapons: Jackhammer, MCG and Lasher. These should all be significantly more competitive with other HA weapon options, while still situational.
      • Retuned the Empire Specific vehicle mounted AV weapons (ML85 Enforcer, G30 Vulcan & Saron HRB) to reduce infantry damage and somewhat equalize effective ranges.
      • MAX Burster weapons have been retuned to be less effective at extreme ranges, they maintain the same effectiveness within ~250-300m.
      • Skyguard turrets have been buffed to provide enhanced effectiveness at all ranges, especially beyond 300m.
        • These two changes should make life better for ESF pilots/Liberator crews which previously were getting picked off at extreme ranges when not actively engaging infantry while still allowing MAXes to provide cover for squads against strafing ESFs and low flying libs threatening ground troops.

      • Changed shotgun damage model to reward more skillful usage and bring these in line with other close range options such as SMGs and Carbines - these should remain potent in close quarters, but not be the only viable option.

    • Tank and Fighter Superiority bonuses have been added, these give an additional 100xp bonus to MBTs destroyed by other MBTs, or ESFs destroyed by ESFs.
    • Vehicle appearance slots have been increased, allowing you to equip more vehicle cosmetics simultaneously.
    • UI Enhancements:
      • Loadout screen has been updated to allow for unlocking of certifications in all slots straight from the loadout screen.
      • Loadout screen has been updated to allow quick switching between weapons from the landing page
      • Loadout screen now saves attachments per-weapon, so quick swapping between weapons maintains that weapons attachments per loadout.
      • Squad browser displays a lot more information about outfit, squad leader, active continent and more.
      • Squad manager now displays player battle ranks, locations, outfit, vehicle information and allows for dragging and dropping of players from the squad to create platoons.
      • The commo rose menu (hold Q on target) has been updated to respect inverted mouse and track better on fast moving targets.

    This is just a few of the notable changes with the update, along with dozens of bug fixes large and small. GU11 is scheduled to go live tomorrow morning (June 20th) barring any last minute issues found.

    We hope you all enjoy the update, see ya on Auraxis!

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    So far this update has me very worried and the quality of life stuff seems to be pretty much missing.

    The infantry NV, territory, burster, and saron changes whilst not addressing things like the striker terrain clipping and flare dodging is a concern to me and I can see TR being highly dominant in the air again.

    It's mostly just my inner pessimist but the NV changes especially are making me want to play less :E

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    • Retuned the Empire Specific vehicle mounted AV weapons (ML85 Enforcer, G30 Vulcan & Saron HRB) to reduce infantry damage and somewhat equalize effective ranges.


    Ah, yes, obviously empire specific weapons need to be "equalized".

    Why does this guy still have a job, seriously? Or can someone at least tell him he's working on Planetside, not Battlefield?

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    I've found I use the NV-scope less and less, and on some weapons where I before would have splashed for a reflex sight or NV I've just opted to keep the iron sight.

    Oh, and speaking of iron sights, the huge sights on the VS pistols bug the hell out of me for some reason.

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    Actually, I'm happy with quite a few of these changes, while lamenting the loss of the OHK Saron, of course. Although it must've been terribly frustrating for anyone facing a Magrider...

    These for instance:

    • Retuned the Empire Specific Heavy weapons: Jackhammer, MCG and Lasher. These should all be significantly more competitive with other HA weapon options, while still situational.




    • Loadout screen has been updated to allow quick switching between weapons from the landing page
    • Loadout screen now saves attachments per-weapon, so quick swapping between weapons maintains that weapons attachments per loadout.
    • Squad browser displays a lot more information about outfit, squad leader, active continent and more.
    • Squad manager now displays player battle ranks, locations, outfit, vehicle information and allows for dragging and dropping of players from the squad to create platoons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EsotericReverie View Post
    Actually, I'm happy with quite a few of these changes, while lamenting the loss of the OHK Saron, of course. Although it must've been terribly frustrating for anyone facing a Magrider...

    These for instance:

    • Retuned the Empire Specific Heavy weapons: Jackhammer, MCG and Lasher. These should all be significantly more competitive with other HA weapon options, while still situational.




    • Loadout screen has been updated to allow quick switching between weapons from the landing page
    • Loadout screen now saves attachments per-weapon, so quick swapping between weapons maintains that weapons attachments per loadout.
    • Squad browser displays a lot more information about outfit, squad leader, active continent and more.
    • Squad manager now displays player battle ranks, locations, outfit, vehicle information and allows for dragging and dropping of players from the squad to create platoons.
    sounds good.

    also the burster and skyguard stuff sounds sensible atleast.
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    Some highlights:


    • The last rank of the Repair Tool now allows Engineers to deconstruct enemy tank mines. This will reward the Engineer experience.


    • Reduced infantry traction. Players will now decelerate before accelerating to their max speed when quickly changing directions while moving.
    • Reduced player warping
    • The above should help reduce issues with ADAD


    • Any cloaked infiltrators that are part of your faction are now highlighted in your faction color.


    Gunner Heading on Schematic
    Added a display for gunner heading to the vehicle schematic on the HUD.

    Edit: I think this update is going to be good for the game and certainly think there are quite a few "quality-of-life" changes here. Give the guys a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EsotericReverie View Post
    Lots and lots of stuff in there. Some of it looks good, and we'll just have to see how it all plays out.

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    Yea I'm really looking forward to this patch. Shotgun nerf aside. But then I barely ever use shotguns anyways.
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