Deux Ex: HR boss battles fixed.....on the Wii U :(

[sk2k]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...e-boss-battles

I hope Square Enix will allow to port these things back to the PC version.

[squirrel]

Price of PC version has dropped to below USD10. What value does this title have for Wii U?

But if they have the motion sickness problem fixed too, I would buy a Wii U just for that.

[db1331]

What motion sickness problem?

[Sparkasaurusmex]

A lot of people get motion sickness from specific games. Which games and which people seem to vary greatly.

I think the value of HR is to help (re)establish the franchise and the developer. At this point it's probably like an advertisement for the next DE.

A good sign they are not against removing the boss fights. I would love a patch for the PC version that does this. I guess they'd have to get Nixxes to do it? Those Nixxes folks do alright by me.

edit- I see, they didn't remove the boss fights, they just made them work like a Deus Ex game. That's even better, really.

[squirrel]

What motion sickness problem?

I tried to play it but less than 15 mins I almost vomit whenever I try. This shooter has the movement mechanics of those very old shooters. Surroundings don't swing or tremble around the focus.

[Sparkasaurusmex]

Is it the same if you use a keyboard and mouse or controller?

[db1331]

I tried to play it but less than 15 mins I almost vomit whenever I try. This shooter has the movement mechanics of those very old shooters. Surroundings don't swing or tremble around the focus.

Have you tried toying with the fov slider? I didn't even find it until halfway through the game, but boy did it make a huge difference.

[Zephro]

Hopefully they port it over to PC, they added all sorts of graphical tweaks, better AI and integrated the missing Link properly into the game. If it makes it's way over to PC that's definite replay value.

EDIT: Though they did say most the graphical stuff and other things can't be ported to Xbox due to hardware limits.

[db1331]

SPOILERZ:

Did anyone else do what I did, and go into LIMB for that replacement chip, only to later have all of your augs shut off for the Nammir boss fight? FUCK. THAT. SHIT. That was seriously some of the most infuriating bullshit I've ever put up with in a video game. I had to beat it on Give Me Deus Ex difficulty as well, because I had come this far and dammit, this asshole wasn't going to break me. I had kept an upgraded minigun on me just for boss fights (which was lovely because it ate up about 1/4 of my inventory on its own). I think I just kept switching between stunning him with my stun gun, then squeezing off a few rounds of the minigun (which took about 2 seconds to even spin up). I was fucking furious by the time I finally beat him.

I got to the final boss fight with my non-lethal, hard mode game fully intact. At the point where additional enemies run out to fight, I was just throwing frag grenades and shooting all over the place. I just wanted it to be fucking over with. I didn't care if I sabotaged my no-kill run in the last possible second. I just wanted to get off this ride.

[Jesus_Phish]

SPOILERZ:

Did anyone else do what I did, and go into LIMB for that replacement chip, only to later have all of your augs shut off for the Nammir boss fight? FUCK. THAT. SHIT. That was seriously some of the most infuriating bullshit I've ever put up with in a video game. I had to beat it on Give Me Deus Ex difficulty as well, because I had come this far and dammit, this asshole wasn't going to break me. I had kept an upgraded minigun on me just for boss fights (which was lovely because it ate up about 1/4 of my inventory on its own). I think I just kept switching between stunning him with my stun gun, then squeezing off a few rounds of the minigun (which took about 2 seconds to even spin up). I was fucking furious by the time I finally beat him.

I thought that was a pretty good part of the story to be honest. If you didn't get the chip replacement, they didn't get to take away your powers. I can see how it would've made that fight headwrecking at that level. I did the same thing on playthrough 2 but only on normal.

[Harlander]

By the time the replacement chip was being offered to me, it seemed like something shady was up with LIMB

[db1331]

Oh it was fantastic story-wise, and honestly, I knew I had probably made a mistake within 5 minutes of getting it done, but I just decided to roll with it and see how it played out. At that time I was just relying on typhoon spam to get through the bosses as quickly as possible, so to have that option taken from me really pissed me off. If I hadn't kept that minigun on me, I probably wouldn't have been able to get past him, unless maybe I bumped it down to easy. The sheer ridiculousness of a pacifist having to carry a fully upgraded minigun and hundreds of rounds of ammo "Just in case" was never lost on me.

[Tikey]

By the time the replacement chip was being offered to me, it seemed like something shady was up with LIMB

Yup, in a game of conspiracies you should be suspecting of everything.

The sheer ridiculousness of a pacifist having to carry a fully upgraded minigun and hundreds of rounds of ammo "Just in case" was never lost on me.

Haha, that's what videogames turns us into.

[Batolemaeus]

And here's what pissed me off much more:

They had the opportunity to force every player to play without augmentations. Sneaky characters would be forced to to it the hard way, without all the help they got from augmentations. Gunhappy players would have to be much more careful. It could make for some really interesting levels, trying to regain those powers and improvising, and playing in a different way. There was this golden opportunity to drive home some of the points the game was making about the powers bestowed by augmentations...but we can't have that can we? The moment must be wasted on a pointless boss fight! Yeah! SPLOSIONS!

[DarkFenix]

As much as I no longer care enough to go back to DE:HR anymore, I am glad to see they're acknowledging the biggest flaws of the game. Now if they'd just be so kind as to give me back the bloody skill point system and remove the "press X to be awesome" crap, I'd be over the moon.

[TechnicalBen]

It might be FOV related (tiny tiny FOV to reduce GPU strain?) or it might be the lack of it's ability to render anything smoothly. BatMan AA seems to stutter and jerk all over the place (apparently, not got the game, but seen the weird video on youtube).
It's like if it's hits a FPS drop, instead of allowing the drop like most consoles do (Xbox 360 and PS3 in more demanding games), it drops the frames all together and also stops the game rendering properly.

[Anthile]

And here's what pissed me off much more:

They had the opportunity to force every player to play without augmentations. Sneaky characters would be forced to to it the hard way, without all the help they got from augmentations. Gunhappy players would have to be much more careful. It could make for some really interesting levels, trying to regain those powers and improvising, and playing in a different way. There was this golden opportunity to drive home some of the points the game was making about the powers bestowed by augmentations...but we can't have that can we? The moment must be wasted on a pointless boss fight! Yeah! SPLOSIONS!

Technically, Adam is augmented right after the tutorial. It never was a choice for him and that's a point, too. All those augmentations are already there but he has to unlock them first. It's basically real life on-disc DLC. Kind of scary when you think about the implications. But then again, he never asked for this.

[db1331]

It might be FOV related (tiny tiny FOV to reduce GPU strain?) or it might be the lack of it's ability to render anything smoothly. BatMan AA seems to stutter and jerk all over the place (apparently, not got the game, but seen the weird video on youtube).
It's like if it's hits a FPS drop, instead of allowing the drop like most consoles do (Xbox 360 and PS3 in more demanding games), it drops the frames all together and also stops the game rendering properly.

Hmm, I never ran into any sluggishness with Asylum. Arkham City, however, stutters sometimes while auto-saving if I have all the DX11 shinies turned on.

[Sketch]

I would like this to come to PC, however I will still always insist on punching Namir in the face because he deserves it.

[Grizzly]

Technically, Adam is augmented right after the tutorial. It never was a choice for him and that's a point, too. All those augmentations are already there but he has to unlock them first. It's basically real life on-disc DLC. Kind of scary when you think about the implications. But then again, he never asked for this.

I thought the unlock process in game was described as "Getting used to the augmentations", where one can use the Praxiss kits to "Force" the process (although nobody ever explains why the praxiss kits have one-time-activation-drm.).
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Hmm. I would also love those changes ported back to the PC version, although I am rather impressed on how they used the functionality the Wii U offers.