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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    Have you seen what people do to their bodies.... I would prefer to amputate arm and get artificial one than have those face modifications.Is it hard to belief that people would replace their limbs with much better thing?
    I never asked for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnicalBen View Post
    OH those are nice examples of fiction. But look at today. Countries with tanks and fighter planes have still fallen recently to uprisings. Would a nation with an A bomb use it on their own rebels? Probably not.
    The past of 2020 is somewhat divergent from our own. The War on Drugs went nuclear in 1993, the UK becomes a police state in 2003. The use of mass drivers, nuclear weapons, tailored bio-plagues and the like is common place by 2010 in corporate disputes, let alone national warfare, although by 2020 with most governments in the hands of the corps the only real war is a cold one between Europe (EU & Russia) and Turkey (backed by China). Of course, there's three corporate wars prior to that (one taking place entirely on the net) and a fourth one at the end of the decade (though whether they stick to the 2020 scenario or incorporate the 203x stuff I dunno).
    Hence I'd expect more external stuff, or implants, over complete replacements.
    The only real complete replacements tend to be ex-military to replace limb loss. Although there is a small commercial market - one of the neat things about the Cyberpunk setting was that the limbs were modular and you could switch components out as necessary. A surgeon for example might get a shoulder implant capable of supporting two arms, then a range of limbs and hands which incorporated medical tools and equipment for work as well as a couple of limbs for recreation that he could swap in and out as necessary.
    For the most part cybernetic implants are used sparingly precisely because of the risk of cyber-psychosis. For the majority it might be nothing more than a socket implant to allow them to connect to computers, smartguns and the like. Extensive modification is fairly rare outside of the military or specialised fields (those working in space for example might have vac-weave skin and eye implantation to allow them to work on the hull of a ship or space station without needing a protective suit).
    There is verymuch room and scope in our biological systems too.
    A lot of the cybertech implants could be replicated by biological ones instead. Although the end results were the same you had different advantages and disadvantages inherent in either (mechanical implants for example, apart from the risk of cyberpsychosis, were vulnerable to EMP weapons while a biological implant wasn't, however biological implants could be affected by viruses, drugs and similar).
    Also, "dodging bullets" is far from possible.
    Not when one is capable of moving faster than a bullet :P

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    I'll have to say that interview was terrible. Nathan really should have gone to the drawing board first and worded his questions better, because they were either limp ("hey, the city of a game called Cyberpunk looks like a generic cyberpunk city") or looked like they were blatantly fishing for excuses to piss on CD Projekt ("why that woman?"). Generally a poor show from Nathan, and Kanik was correct in dodging questions like Tony Blair in this instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delusibeta View Post
    I'll have to say that interview was terrible. Nathan really should have gone to the drawing board first and worded his questions better, because they were either limp ("hey, the city of a game called Cyberpunk looks like a generic cyberpunk city") or looked like they were blatantly fishing for excuses to piss on CD Projekt ("why that woman?"). Generally a poor show from Nathan, and Kanik was correct in dodging questions like Tony Blair in this instance.
    I don't think bad questions justify bad answers. He could have taken the opportunity, as I mentioned elsewhere, to explain and sell us on the team's vision. He didn't.
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    That back story sounds a bit better. I keep forgetting this is about the "exceptions" of the technology, and not like GITS where it because the "norm" for everyone to be robots. :P

    PS, moving faster than a bullet creates a lot of friction, to name just one of the hot topics of the problems. ;)

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    Well, the background is from 2020, one of the questions Nathan could have asked in the interview is how much they're sticking to it. The last release (Cyberpunk 203x) pulled something of a 'rocks fall, everyone dies' on the setting and pretty much wiped the entire backstory. It'll be interesting to see which one they run with; 203x is probably good from an 'introduce new players to the setting' perspective since it runs with the premise that all data is unreliable, 2020 on the other hand is the one everyone tends to remember and is somewhat more classic cyberpunk.

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    so I guess we should start a thread on The Witcher 3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by motherpuncher View Post
    so I guess we should start a thread on The Witcher 3?
    "Witcher 3 is going to be better"
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    I'm looking forward to Cyberpunk just as much. Hated the latest Deus Ex and I wasn't a big fan of the original either. CD Projekt strike me as the right team for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldvvvave View Post
    "Witcher 3 is going to be better"
    Given the first two were tedious shite, that wouldn't be hard :P

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    The discussions in the articles on the main page are really weird sometimes... In the original post about the teaser trailer, Nathan wrote:



    Which mostly seems like a throwaway joke about the developer and their history.
    What happens? BAM! Major breakdown in the comment section were some people accuse the game and the developer of being sexist, some people claiming "it's only the setting" and some people accusing RPS of "pushing political agendas".

    Some commenters thought the trailer was misogynistic and sexist and started a discussion about it, and then a lot of people came out of the woodwork accusing RPS of bringing up the sexism debate all over again. But they pretty much didn't say anything at all about it.

    And in tonights post with the interview, Nathan asked:



    Which is pretty much just an observation of what happened in the RPS comments. Some people thought it was sexist and spoke up about it.
    And in the new comment section, people yet again start attacking RPS about pushing agendas...

    In my opinion, RPS never really said a lot about the subject, but people started accusing RPS of doing so.
    I mean, what the
    cheap lingerie crap is going on? What have people been smoking?


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    To summarize my own thoughts on the trailer/game: Looks sweet. Looking forward to it.


    EDIT: To clarify, I'm not taking a stance whether or not the game/trailer is sexist or not, I merely wanted to highlight how a lot of commenters are accusing RPS of "always talking about sexism" when they pretty much didn't do that at all this time....
    I think is not good to use lingerie and underwear. We need to keep it simple and away from wrong thoughts
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    Quote Originally Posted by WadeBurton View Post
    I think is not good to use lingerie and underwear. We need to keep it simple and away from wrong thoughts
    Yeah, why include women at all? Some men get the weirdest thoughts when they see one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WadeBurton View Post
    I think is not good to use lingerie and underwear. We need to keep it simple and away from wrong thoughts
    I mean, Cyberpunk is right in the title.

    If there isn't at least one red light district I'll return my copy. Bonus points for being CD Projeckt, there is no way in hell there aren't several brothels in there.
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    It's a shame this discussion was resurrected for the sole purpose of out-of-context mockery. There was a lot of good, nuanced discussion from a wide variety of perspectives. If all you've got to say is "Pffft, prudes," I think you'd be better off not even mentioning the preceding furor. There's plenty to say about Cyberpunk and indeed this game that doesn't intersect with gender issues.
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