Modem Warfare: Dedicated Servers Go

Yeah, I'm re-using screenies. Sue me. No, don't. I have no money.

This is cute. News from Destructoid via Seniath… well, that No Dedicated Server thing? Well, those ever determined fans have worked out a way to get dedicated servers working on their lonesome. Amazingly, they’re currently still ranked by IWNet. And the following video shows some of the stuff they’ve made the game be able to do.

Hmm. Maybe this isn’t such a good thing.

Meanwhile, in other news, PC Modern Warfare 2 sales apparently were a mere 3% of the UK total.


  1. mrmud says:

    Wow, the UK sure hates their PCs.

    Checking the charts of one of the larger games and computer retailers in Stockholm (Webhallen) the PC skew is at the top of the board with 360 taking number 2.

    • SheffieldSteel says:

      Actually “skew” = SKU = Sales Kept Unit

    • jsutcliffe says:

      I thought it was Stock Keeping Unit, but I also think I’ve seen a few different interpretations.

    • Richeh says:

      I thought it was Soundly Kicked Ungulant. It always seemed like a bit of an inhumane way of keeping count, but this makes much more sense.

    • armlesscorps says:

      mrmud get your facts right. the uk loves its pc’s hence the sales figures were low, we wont buy games that try to turn them into consoles.

    • Wisq says:

      Apparently the UK is more sensible than my Steam friends, then. Half of them seem to be playing it these days.

      So of course, I’m playing Dragon Age as a non-Steam game, with the game title set to express my opinion about exactly where IW can stick their evil PC-hating ways.

      Ahh, social gaming …

  2. Alexander Norris says:

    That actually looks like a marked improvement on the default gameplay.

  3. TCM says:

    This whole mess could have been solved by IW offering dedicated servers, but turning off rankings for anything but vanilla…

    But that would have been the intelligent thing to do, and Activision would never allow that.

  4. gulag says:

    Machine gun that fires rockets? Welcome to Borderlands.

  5. AndrewC says:

    At last: control of the game is finally in the hands of the sensible, mature gamers who really care about the optimum play experience.

    • Arnulf says:

      Well said.

    • PHeMoX says:

      Just wait till they add to / unlock the multiplayer cheating in the game…

      oh wait they already did. So much for the fun and mature gamers part.

    • Mulayim says:

      Sensible, mature gamers avoided this game. That’s why you are watching this video now.

  6. aldo says:

    No bloody wonder, given that every major supermarket seems to have either dropped or be in the process of dropping Pc games. That’s a pretty big section right there, never mind the ever-decreasing space in the more dedicated games (etc) shops.

    • po says:

      My local Tescos was on the Blizzard homepage as one that was doing the midnight WotLK release thing. Went in the next day to get a copy, and spent half an hour trying to find anything but console games. Finally found they had a small display of the game, behind the tobacco kiosk.

      To be honest though, if it’s not available through Steam or from Amazon, I’m not likely to go to a brick and mortar store and pay more, so I don’t blame the supermarkets for dropping PC games when they can’t sell any, due to the PC users knowing better places to get them (only went to Tescos because I got a lift to the out of town store. I had my pre-ordered copy from Amazon on the doormat when I got home.

      I think the UK does have major problems with the level of PC literacy amongst it’s population (which gives rise to people favoring consoles), largely down to the p*** poor level of I.T. education you get here. I dropped out of 2 degrees (Computer Science and Computer Media), because the level being taught in the first year was so low, it was recovering stuff I’d learned in Computer Studies G.C.S.E. (a subject no longer taught, probably because the only people who took it were hardcore nerds, and the course material was more computer history than modern computing), in one case, even having exactly the same spreadsheet project about a company making window frames.

      Meanwhile my younger sister, who was in high-school from 1998-2003, and took I.T., didn’t learn a thing about the web or email, as I.T. taught here seems to consist of word processing, spreadsheets, and data entry for databases.

    • Bhazor says:

      Well I got Empire:Total War and Dawn of War 2 for about £15 a couple of months ago from ASDA. link to . What I’m saying is there are still bargains if you look for them

      . Also I ‘m not sure about PC losing floorspace in game shops. From my time in Brighton, Sheffield and Grantham PC games actually have more shelf space than PS3 games in Game stores.

    • PHeMoX says:

      Screw the physical shops. Super markets only carry titles like Modern Warfare 2, Halo 3 or SPORE which are either hyped beyond reality or are sure-fire-guaranteed to score-games.

      Retail should complain more about those supermarkets, instead of claiming some kind of compensation for digital distribution that they have literally no part in and no right to.

    • Plinglebob says:

      After a recent reshuffle of both my local Tesco and local Game, Tesco is better for buying PC games. Game have shrunk what was a moderately sized shelf of recent games and a large rack of “3 for £10″/”3 for £20” to a tiny display with 5 of the top 10 slots going to the Sims and WoW. Tesco on the other hand has a decent selection of recent titles plus they’re cheaper (MW2 on release day for £27).

      Even the Game and Gamestation in the next biggest town have pathetically small PC sections. My guess is because PC gamers are more likely to use online retailers.

      On topic: Took them less then a week. Surprised it wasn’t quicker.

    • Some Guy says:

      Computer literacy in the UK is very much a learn it yourselfe. a GCSE in ICT is a wast of time, all it needs you to know is word, excel and spreadsheat. mayby a littlt of the GUI of a webpage software.

      no actual skill or working knoledge. all that i picked up from getting PC games to work.

    • Optimaximal says:

      Even the Game and Gamestation in the next biggest town have pathetically small PC sections. My guess is because PC gamers are more likely to use online retailers.

      Unlikely. It’s a purely profit-motivated decision, since the falling value of a PC game gives the retailer a smaller share of that pie. More of a console game sale at retail is pure margin, therefore more money in their pockets.

    • weegosan says:

      Also don’t forget that most PC games activate so can’t be traded in. They love their trade-ins. I went out looking for Super Mario Galaxy at the weekend and my local had it second hand for £32.99. Insanity.

  7. Primar says:

    And we wonder why Infinity Ward are totally unfussed about the PC version.

    • Seniath says:

      Self-perpetuating cycle though innit? We don’t buy the game because they don’t put much effort into the PC version because we don’t buy it…

    • abhishek says:

      Exactly. The ‘boycotters’ see this as vindication of their position that people will not buy a gimped version of the game. Activision and Infinity Ward see the sales numbers and decide that they don’t give a fuck about the PC version with it’s miniscules percentages.

    • Alexander Norris says:

      Yes, well; I don’t want to sound like a conspiracy nut, but I’m not entirely convinced that Activision and IW didn’t know exactly what they were doing and where they were headed with what they did. If it’s a self-perpetuating cycle, it’s one that was most likely instigated in part by the developers/publishers.

      It certainly makes for a convenient justification for stripping the PC gaming platform of its freedoms and delivering a much more restrictive experience, in any case.

    • Seniath says:

      Oh yeah, totally. I’ve no doubt that at the root this is Actard’s doing, but the lay-person wont see it that way.

    • Pantsman says:

      But that doesn’t make any sense because IW/Activision don’t need an excuse to drop PC support. If they wanted to do that, they could just do it. Who do they need to justify themselves to? Not the PC gamers, since they’re the ones whose money they don’t care about anyway. Not the console gamers, since they won’t care one way or another.

    • invisiblejesus says:

      What Pantsman said. This idea that a company somehow needs to manufacture a justification to drop the PC platform is silly. That said, it may be less horrifying than the likely reality, which is that Infinity Ward and Activision actually sincerely believe that they’ve made the right moves with this game.

    • nakke says:

      But hey, at least the PC game has custom features like mouse control, text chat and graphics options.

    • Pantsman says:

      “Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.” Or if you prefer, “Cock-up before conspiracy”.

    • Wisq says:

      It is a bit tricky to come up with a reasonable conspiracy theory, yes.

      The best I can think of is that they know they can make more if they go console-only, but their investors (or shareholders or stakeholders or whatever) refuse to let them drop the PC side of things because it does actually make some money. But that makes little sense, because if they know there’s a monetary argument for going console-only, why can’t they just convince the investors of that?

      Perhaps it’s even the other way around. The publisher and/or investors want to go console-only. The devs want to continue supporting the PC. So the publisher/investors come up with an ingenious plan to bring console concepts to the PC in order to alienate … no, wait, did I just say “publisher” and “ingenious plan” in the same sentence? Scratch that.

      Nope, can’t think of a good scenario.

  8. jsutcliffe says:

    I much preferred this dtoid story, linked within the one linked above: link to

    People are flakes and idiots.

  9. James G says:

    The last sentence appears to be missing out the word PC, and implies that the sales of MW2 were 3% of the gaming market across the board, rather than PC sales were 3% of the MW2 sales.

    And MrMud, yeah, console sales have dominated the sales charts here for ages, outside a few rare PC exceptions. Still, I’d like to see what percentage of UK Dragon Age sales were on the PC, I’d expect it to be higher.

    • qrter says:

      Jeff Green, former GFW Magazine/1Up journo, who now works at EA, said on a 1Up podcast (couple of weeks ago) that EA is really pleased with Dragon Age, the PC version especially is selling incredibly well.

    • skizelo says:

      I hope that’s true. It’d be lovely to have a counter-example of how many PC gamers show up when you don’t cite “mouse control and scalable graphics” as their version’s special features.
      Seriously, what happened to EA. They keep on making good decisions and getting rewarded for it, and frankly it’s making me uneasy.

    • PHeMoX says:

      I think many publishers aren’t very honest about PC sales to begin with, as I also saw numbers that really showed how Modern Warfare 2 sales on PC were also very high as well (obviously much more than 3% of all MW2 sales, as that’s just plain nuts).

      In fact, the PC, Xbox and PS3 sales are about equal, with the Xbox MW2 sales being only slightly higher. Perhaps this will still change, but there are some crazy statements being made about the PC platform for sure.

  10. lePooch says:

    The youtube comments are full of people complaining that this will cause the leader boards to (and I quote)”become lies”. I think everything that people can do to turn this game into a borked, unbalanced joke should be done. All the more power to them if they can have this much fun doing it.

    Where is the response from Activision? No response for the earlier complaints and hacks, and none now. I guess they’re really ignoring the PC crowd. Wonder what would happen if this was doable on XBOX?

    • Gutter says:

      If it was doable on the XBox, IW wouldn’t have abandoned the idea of a dedicated server.

      Simple as that.

    • OctaneHugo says:

      I know! I mean, I thought IWNet was supposed to provide comprehensive ways of banning hackers and cheaters the likes we’ve never seen!

  11. Jockie says:

    I guess Im the only one who has this on PC and is enjoying the multiplayer immensely then?

    The matchmaking is crap mind, but overall it’s still the best mp game I’ve played this year (until tomorrow anyway).

    • 1stGear says:


    • Alexander Norris says:

      Shouldn’t that be “Good day, sirrah!” I mean, you’re being (hypothetically) insulting towards him, so a respectful form of address would be incorrect.

    • cjlr says:

      See, it’s the fact that people will bother to point out the things like the difference between ‘sir’ and ‘sirrah’ that makes me love these comment sections so much.

      Stay classy, RPS.

  12. Skinlo says:

    Its going to be interesting to see whether Infinity Ward will produce the next COD at all for the PC, I guess England isn’t the only market for the game though, so it may have done better elsewhere.

    The UK does have quite an obsession with consoles it seems, and always get caught along with the hype. However, I feel the boycott will have played a reasonable impact in the success of the game. The type of people who would buy it for the PC over a console might have heard of it, and may have then held off buying it.

    Although I am sad to see such low PC sales, it doesn’t really surprise me, and I’m predicting them to go the way of Epic games and turn completely console next time round.

  13. Gabanski83 says:

    That looks like huge amounts of fun, what with the awesomely high jumping and stuff. I wouldn’t mind giving that a go if it actually played like that.

  14. XM says:

    Something is wrong chart track has the PC version number 1 in the UK link to

  15. LeJerk says:

    This makes me think of a certain book/movie about a certain extinct animals which find a way to do things they were not supposed to be able to do… ;)

    “Life breaks free. Life expands to new territories. Painfully, perhaps even dangerously. But life finds a way.”

  16. Cooper says:

    Are these dedicated servers available to those who pirated the game?

    If so. Lol.

  17. Xercies says:

    A lot of those games in the sale chart have been advertised on TV for the 360 so I’m guessing advertising does work and people are buying games they are seeing on TV.

  18. qrter says:

    Do those sales figures take digital sales into account, though.

    I mean, how many people still go to a retail store to buy a PC version?

    • says:

      I tried. Game (which last time tried to sell me Trine for £30) wanted more than Steam, and didn’t have any copies in stock anyway. They also didn’t have Dragon Age in stock, or even an empty box indicating its existence, so I went to a supermarket and bought Dragon Age for Steam’s price.

      And no, they didn’t have the PC version of CoD:MW2 at all.

      No bloody wonder PC gamers don’t buy games from bricks & mortar stores – they can’t find any willing to sell them, and if they do they’re stupidly priced. Seriously, £30 for Trine?

  19. Steve the Imperial Guardsmen says:

    When pirates are able to have access to features denied to customers who actually bought it, you know you’ve made yourself a terrible game.

  20. nayon says:

    The PC version’s multiplayer sucks. I shoot a guy in the face multiple times, and oh, turns out he was not there. Epic lag ftw.

    • Howl says:

      Right, because that happens.. 1 game in every 50?

    • OctaneHugo says:

      @Howl: More than that. That’s one of the downsides to a non-dedicated based system. Lots of lag, because not everyone’s built to host a multiplayer game.

    • coupsan says:

      @Howl: You know what’s even better? Zero of every fifty games having lag extreme enough to screw you out of a kill.

  21. VHATI says:

    I see the pc sales #s as a good thing. It will cause IW to stop pc development, and other devs will pick up the vacant spot and actually give the pc guy something they want.

  22. Adam says:

    That looks so, so, so, SO much more fun than the original.

    It’s like Tribes: MW2 ;)

  23. Major Disaster says:

    Was wondering the very same thing myself, be interested to know how many copies were sold via steam especially as the “silly” prices were only on the 360/PS3 in the supermarkets

    • nakke says:

      And it was a totally reasonable 60 euros on steam here (Finland). :P (At the same time Steam even advertised CoD4 for a mere 50 euros — I instantly bought 5 copies for my friends, what a bargain!)

  24. Hmm says:

    What’s this? People trying to have fun with their games? This isn’t what Infinity Ward intended!

  25. Daniel Klein says:

    This is why we can’t have any nice things.

  26. kalidanthepalidan says:

    This is why PC gaming is awesome.

  27. MadMatty says:

    funky music :0

  28. Gremmi says:

    Will I be flayed alive if I say that I’m quite enjoying mp MW2 on my PC?

    Admittedly, it’s the most effort I’ve put into an mp mode for ages – I’m not a competitive gamer by any stretch of the imagination, but what I have played I’ve enjoyed, and haven’t experienced much in the way of lag – it’s upset maybe 3 games out of a couple of dozen.

  29. JoeDuck says:

    PC gaming keeps on being this fascinating weird place for user generated chaos, companies wild rises and falls and absolutely no predictability. I love it…
    Now, what I’d love and actually risk a ban for, is someone hacking a fake server to accept console connections. That way you’d be able to have one mouse to rule them all, one mouse to find them and in the darkness bind them.
    Probably impossible, but what the heck, dreaming is free…

  30. Larington says:

    Not surprisingly, Russia doesn’t appear to have taken kindly to this game either: link to

  31. Heliocentric says:

    Play station 3 is possible, 360 is a walled garden. That said, i know nothing about anything.

    So action games fail here compared to the 360 and ps3? My heart bleeds, i don’t get why we get modern warfare and not the quick time event rts brutal legend.

  32. Starky says:

    The thing which people tend to forget is that PC games are very much long haul sellers, much more so than console games (which after the first month is nothing but pre-owned).

    Good games on the PC get expansions and DLC, good games on the PC get Mods and free new features that keep people buying.
    So good PC eyed games made for reasonable budgets can see very well and be very successful.

    The PC may not have the huge numbers for the AAA titles, but that is okay, the AAA titles are basically the equivalent of Jerry bruckheimer movies – Make loads of money, loads of people see them, and they can be pretty good for what they are.

    So the PC platform loses some AAA titles, I can live with that given the hundreds of amazing indie games, mods, and even browser games that we get.

    Who needs Transformers 6 and 7 when we can have smaller, but arguably better independent productions.
    Let consoles be the multiplex cinema’s for the masses, let PC’s be the home of true film lovers.

    Hell to swing it back to the Sunday papers
    Console games are celebrity biographies. PC games are low volume but quality novels.

  33. JonFitt says:

    Gosh I don’t know why they bother with the PC. A mere 53,400 units sold at £30-£40, netting somewhere between £1.6m – £2.1m in the first week in the UK alone.

    That’s barely worth getting out of bed for.

  34. Evo says:

    The article did not account for digital distribution which is possibly where the majority of PC gamers bought MW2. Labeling a PC release a failure based on retail sales alone is pure fallacy in this day and age. Next week I’m sure the retail charts will indicate that Left 4 Dead 2 sold more on Xbox 360 than PC but I’ll be shocked if that is actually the case when digital distribution is added.

    • Gremmi says:

      Yeah, purchases directly through Steam are never counted at all, mostly because Valve don’t release sales figures.

    • Paco says:

      you got a point there.

      BTW only few hours to L4D2, yayyy!

    • PHeMoX says:

      Of course Valve doesn’t release sales figures. There’s obviously no way their Left 4 Dead still sells better than Modern Warfare 2.

      Valve isn’t interested in sales figures except for boosting them, as they clearly use their ‘best sellers’ top 10 for propaganda purposes only….

      I think it’s safe to say Modern Warfare 2 wouldn’t be at number 6 if the list would be representative.

    • Lagmint says:

      I’m not sure what propaganda Valve gets out of having MW2 being their best-seller on the list…

    • TeeJay says:

      I couldn’t care less what music is at number one in the charts – why does it matter when it comes to games? Being a ‘best-seller’ doesn’t make any music/movie/book/game any better. Sometimes it merely reflects mass-marketed branding and pandering to the lowest common denominator.

      Total units sold and/or total revenues don’t even correspond to the profits developers end up with either, which is maybe the only important factor in that it provides motivation and funding for future games, although in fact the history of games development suggests that the best games have been created out of love for gaming, and as soon as people merely start chasing money/sales they end up changing good games into shittier ones.

      I like to listen to music made for love not money-obsession. Why should games be different? Why are we so obsessed about sales figures and charts?

    • Optimaximal says:

      Being a ‘best-seller’ doesn’t make any music/movie/book/game any better.

      It matters too the people who finance the games – being the top of the chart means that your game sold better than everyone elses, ergo that means more money in the bank.

      Personally, I wish Valve would actually release sales figures for (at least) the top 10. It would finally allow chart agregators to count digital downloads properly and prove that the PC isn’t the bottomless waste of money pit that all the bean counters think it is because they’re only calculating their figures on half (if that) the data.

  35. Mike_in_Ohio says:

    We knew it would be a matter of time (or days for that matter) that some young individual could crack that code. I also believe that IW purposely left the back door open for hacks of this sort. Actually it is
    quite fun to play on PC… only thing I didnt care for was the price, but what the hell – it’s just money

  36. Steelfists says:


  37. Al3xand3r says:

    Misinformation. This still runs off of a standard gaming machine as the host. Don’t listen to mainstream websites like Destructoid for serious news please. This is mostly the enabled console commands and nothing more. There are some additional work arounds out there to let you connect to a game via IP also, but again to a standard p2p listen server machine.

    Until you can install a server application on a linux machine as a dedicated server and clients can have a server browser (whether in-game or with a third party application All Seeing Eye style) with which to see and choose between games filtered according to their preferences, then the issue remains unchanged for the bulk of the serious PC gamers I’m afraid. For Christ’s sake, you can’t even play with custom rules like “no respawns” outside Private matches with the current official system, and people don’t see why it’s gimped? Meh.

    • T-B0N3 says:

      Thats actually an important note, lol. So its just a modified client hosting this, to bad.
      I think they should change the topic name to something like “modifications online go” or something. Cause this title gives fake hope :/

    • Flimgoblin says:

      A dedicated server doesn’t need to be a Linux one. Just not playing so they don’t get the ping advantage. That said it presumably still takes up a player slot.

    • yns88 says:

      It’s true that it does not need to run on Linux, but it’s not just for ping. The reason for having a dedicated server is so that you can run the server without having to waste system resources on loading the client. As it is, it’s still utterly impractical to try running these servers 24/7, and the person hosting the dedicated server will always be taking up a slot in-game.

  38. Seniath says:

    Oh and apparently (judging by an update to the Destructoid piece) they’ve modded Lean back in. But… but… it’s not balanced for lean.

    • DarkNoghri says:

      I keep linking that picture random places. Because it’s funny.

  39. Frye says:

    I bought this against better judgment. And i shouldn’t have.

    We have now entered the MTV age of gaming. MW2 being the Boy-Zone of games. Quality? Nahh but shiny though, and the kids will love it. You know, the same ones that do not really care whether Britney actually sings during her concerts. From now on we will only get what marketing people think we love. The age of game-makers creating the games ‘they would like to play themselves’ are over. You can look at this as deterioration or the industry growing up and i am not sure where I stand. The crappy thing is, though, that it takes such a large investment to create something worthwhile. Unlike music, the times of a lone programmer creating a gem in his basement are long gone.

    Maybe the big players in the industry should focus on consoles indeed and get it over with. There is no longer a point making a PC version unless they really commit themselves to giving something extra. You know, the bits and bats that you think are too confusing for console people, like settings screens, dedicated servers, enemies that actually make you die. Stuff like that.

    Then again, I haven’t run out of games to play yet, and things might turn out fine.

    • Lagmint says:

      “Unlike music, the times of a lone programmer creating a gem in his basement are long gone.”

      While I agree it’s not one guy generally, there’s still tiny teams of people making absolutely fantastic games. Look at Natural Selection 2, isn’t that four people?

    • Some Guy says:

      clifski and gratuitous space battles. eat your words.

    • Vinraith says:

      Cliffski and GSB or Democracy 2, Chris Park and AI War: Fleet Command, the fellow who made Armageddon Empires whose name escapes me, and that’s just the recent stuff I can think of off the top of my head. RPS seems to find a new counterexample to your statement roughly every few days.

    • Arathain says:

      But… that’s been the single most exciting change of the last year or three. The bedroom coder is back, bigger and better than ever. World of Goo, Spelunky, Dwarf Fortress, AI War, Armageddon Empires, Briad… many, many first class titles, tons of freeware, tons of quirky stuff, niche stuff, everything you could want.

      That’s why we’re all scoffing at this whole ‘PC gaming is dying’ nonsense. So the blockbusters aren’t as blockbusting as they once were. Look what we get instead!

  40. T-B0N3 says:

    This video actually shows one of the few problems i have with dedicated servers. Especially older games make it hard to see the difference between a vanilla server and something wacky like this, cause this seems fun i really get bored with this in like 5 seconds.
    Unfortunatly i like playing in clans, playing lagfree and playing regularly on the same server so that you actuallly get a sense of a micro community on the server.
    So im still not gonna buy this game, at least not for full price. Which makes me partially sad cause i played alot of moh:aa and cod2 and was looking forward to this game.

  41. LMN8R says:

    One need only look at Steam stats to make a good prediction of overall sales for the game.

    The 360 version was putting up roughly 1 million concurrent players on Modern Warfare 2 at peak
    The PC version, with every copy sold tracked using Steamworks, had roughly 140,000 people playing concurrently at peak.

    That would put the PC version at about 14% of the 360 version. Comparatively not all that impressive, but still damned significant sales overall.

    • Shalrath says:

      I’m not sure that counts PC SP players though. Wasn’t the 140,000 concurrent for Modern Warfare 2 – Multiplayer, or was that added with SP?

    • Clovis says:

      but still damned significant sales overall.

      And that’s the important bit. It doesn’t matter if PC sales are only .0001% of overall sales. If IW makes millions by selling MW2 on the PC, then they will release the next one on PC too, and they should have some interest in listening to PC gamers. I don’t understand the logic of, “If PC sales are only 1% of the total sales, IW will stop selling it on PC.” Why? Because they hate money all of a sudden?

      Even if they don’t want to bother working for the millions themselves, they can still hire a third party to do the port and still make money.

  42. Michael Hughes says:

    Why do people care about overall leaderboards anyway? The only people who are ever on them are cheaters. It took less than a day for an aimbot to be written for MW2, and without dedicated servers, there’s no effective way to police the game. It’s a joke. The entire affair reeks of Bobby Kotick’s malevolent dictating, and I did what any sensible gamer did: pirated it for the single player campaign (the plot, by the way, is batshit retarded).

  43. RagingLion says:

    I’m surprised at 3%. It’s true that digital sales aren’t counted. 14% sounds a bit better.

  44. Big Daddy says:

    These figures are most obviously wrong because there are currently over 80,000 people playing the PC version. Steam Stats, people! link to

    • Shalrath says:

      I was watching those numbers on saturday – god I love the heated, almost exactly-tied fight for first between 2009’s Modern Warfare 2, and 200_4_’s Counter-Strike: Source.

      This makes me proud to be a PC gamer :)

    • Alexander Norris says:

      Those numbers are hilariously saddening. 90% of all HL-based servers run the piece of badly-designed shit that is CS.

      On the plus side, it warms my heart to see that Desert Crisis and Frontline Force still have one server up and running.

    • fulis says:

      Why do you say it’s a piece of shit?

      Valve’s stats for CS 1.6 haven’t been accurate since spring 2007 btw
      Not that they care

  45. Tei says:

    This look retarded fun. I love it.
    Hope more videos like this one come.

    What real relation have this to dedicated servers? you can have dedicated server with vanilla. Theres not relation modding with dedicated. Hell.. probably this one is not-dedicated and is modded (seems that with console commands?).

    • tapanister says:

      Yes Tei, this is made with the unofficial console patch that came out yesterday or today (dunno). It might be a step closer to dedi servers but i have no idea how :P

    • Tei says:

      Console patch? well… If can get the console to work, maybe can “inyect” commands to have some remote control, like kick people, etc… Probably most commands from old versions are still there, and not removed. So maybe this is a step near real dedicated servers, or the next best thing: a server you can remotely control.

  46. Calabi says:

    This is why I love the PC. Give it five minutes and modders/hackers will fuck it up(in the best possible way).

  47. the wiseass says:

    “Well, those ever determined fans have worked out a way to get dedicated servers working on their lonesome.”

    Actually, no. They managed to get the console running but it’s still only working over IWNET. So no dedicated servers yet!

    It’s also stated in the video description:
    “The best bit is, this is all ranked and on IWNet!”

  48. Tyshalle says:

    lol. So not only do you all love your PC, but you all also love to stand on your principles so fiercely that you’d make the PC sales in your country bomb so hard that they’re likely to make the next COD a console-only game.

    With that kind of enormous coordination, maybe you all should try to cure cancer or something.

    • Tyshalle says:

      And for fucks sake, who do I have to kill to get the reply function on this site to work correctly? Jesus Christ.

    • Tyshalle says:

      Oh sure, it works now.

    • Nick says:

      Most shops that sell games in the UK only stock console ones or have a very small amount of PC games, it has been that way for quite a few years now. Generally I find most people I know buy their PC games through steam or via amazon or play uk, where they are cheaper anyway.

    • TeeJay says:

      All developers who make multi-player shooters for the PC will be watching this and thinking about if they want to follow suit.

      PC sales in one single country won’t impact on whether a sequel is made.

  49. Psychopomp says:

    I can’t help but notice there’s not a link to this anywhere

  50. Al3xand3r says:

    Misinformation. This still runs off of a standard gaming machine as the host. Don’t listen to mainstream websites like Destructoid for serious news please. This is mostly the enabled console commands and nothing more. There are some additional work arounds out there to let you connect to a game via IP also, but again to a standard p2p listen server machine.

    Until you can install a server application on a linux machine as a dedicated server and clients can have a server browser (whether in-game or with a third party application All Seeing Eye style) with which to see and choose between games filtered according to their preferences, then the issue remains unchanged for the bulk of the serious PC gamers I’m afraid. For Christ’s sake, you can’t even play with custom rules like “no respawns” outside Private matches with the current official system, and people don’t see why it’s gimped? Meh.

    Repost of my previous comment so it’s higher up on the page and people don’t get too excited.