Walk Like An Egyptian: Civ V Walkthrough

I'm starting a support group for people who can't not go for the science victory. You want in?

Sid Meier’s Civilization Videogame Number V By Sid Meier is out on September 21st, as is the demo, as is our review, making it a grand day for Civilization fans. Until then you’ll have to play very a different game entitled Sid Meier’s Tantalization. You can play this game by watching the new two hour developer walkthrough video embedded beneath the jump. Alternatively, you could read Alec’s two part write-up of his time with the preview code, or my interview with lead designer Jon Shafer.

Some people might think that Sid Meier’s Tantalization is not a very fun game. Well, I have to say to those people, that, I mean. Well.

Anyway, videos! If two hours is a bit much for you, Joystiq’s comparatively brief 13 minute walkthrough can be seen right here.

Part 1:

Part 2:

Are you excited about Civilization V, readers?


  1. Jimbo says:

    I wish we lived in a world where we could have an article about Sid Meier’s Pirates! V! instead :'(

  2. Bornemannen says:

    I am very excited and I do not appreciate the way you play with my fragile little mind…

  3. Hmm says:

    Such a great looking game ruined by Steam DRM. Oh well, most Steam fanatics will obviously “wait for a huge Steam’s -75% sale” instead of buying it for full price, so 2K won’t make the same mistake of leaving their games at Valve’s mercy again and hopefully choose something more consumer-friendly in the future.

    • CheetahMen says:

      While I agree that supporting a monopoly isnt the best thing, it’s time to wake up and realize that Steam is not going anywhere, and it’s probably the best thing that ever happened to PC gaming.

      If you know any other store that will sell games in Argentina please let me know, but so far steam seems to be the only one who thinks I live in a place that exists and according to the steam calculator page thingy my account is worth $1500, so I guess it’s everyone elses loss isnt it?

    • BobJustBob says:

      Care to put some numbers inside that extra-large bucket of whine? Give exact figures for the disappointing sales numbers you expect out of Civ 5 so that your failure can be properly realized when this becomes the highest-selling game in the series.

    • Vadermath says:

      CheetahMan is absolutely right. You think I’d be able to buy the many interesting games in Serbia, for example, if it weren’t for the Steam “DRM”? It’s very user-friendly, I’ve never had problems with it before. Valve is probably the best PC developer and publisher I’ve ever seen, so “leaving games to their mercy” is probably a plus. The Steam sales are also very convenient, allows people who mayhaps don’t have a lot of money to spend on games to play them anyway.

    • davefp says:

      Not only is Steam’s DRM better than GFWL, Ubisoft’s new method and any other scheme that I can think of, it’s pretty damn good in and of itself. Unobtrusive and with a whole lot of value-added through Steam’s other features (friends list, auto-updates, chat etc.). I’d be interested to hear what got you so riled up about it.

    • Anin says:


      Yeah, those damn Steam fanatics are absolutely going to wait until it’s 75% off and prove to be a huge loss for 2K and Firaxis! It’s not like they’ve been buying the hell out of it since the pre-order went live and have kept the game in the top sellers list ever since. That’ll show ’em!

      Oh. Wait.

    • Archonsod says:

      Going by Steam’s current record for unlocking stuff on release date, I’ll expect to be playing it by October.

    • Xercies says:

      I agree with Hmm a little bit i’m a bit worried that we’ve gotten to the point where we are ok with steam when there used to be very little DRM on the games we used to buy. I can’t believe people have sleep walked into that really. i know what steam is sometimes I use it mostly only for sales or the developers force me on it(which i hate by the way) Otherwise i use the Non DRM digital Distribution shops as much as possible.

    • pkt-zer0 says:

      “there used to be very little DRM on the games we used to buy”

      Like Starforce or SecuROM’s limited activations? And remember how GOG requiring games to be DRM-free was a pretty big turn-off for publishers initially? And those games are ancient, and cracked ten times since their release.

      I really don’t see how we were heading for less DRM, were it not for Steam. Just look at Ubisoft: they still decided that Steam was not secure enough, and you absolutely needed to have crucial parts of the game’s code run on their servers instead of your computer.

    • Serenegoose says:

      There is one thing about steam that makes me loathe to use it.

      I live with my partner. We have 2 computers. We both enjoy playing videogames to a great degree,

      If, however, I am playing a game that uses steam DRM then not only can she not play it (which is not entirely problematic) but she cannot play any of the games on my steam collection AT ALL.

      It’s for this reason that I buy games on download services other than steam whenever possible.

    • frosty says:

      more consumer-friendly?

      does your butler deliver games unto you on a silver platter, on a red velvet cushion, on a golden chariot, pulled by glowing unicorns with jet packs ?
      or is it that a slow internet connection makes it quicker to go the shop & buy it ?

      tell us of your alternative anyways

    • ghor says:

      “Oh well, most Steam fanatics will obviously “wait for a huge Steam’s -75% sale” instead of buying it for full price”

      link to store.steampowered.com it’s been the top selling game for a few days now. And it’s not even out yet.

    • Nick says:

      I prefer steam to codewheels and black on brown code lookups, manual page number /word references and all the other DRM that apparenly didn’t exist in the old days.

    • gerafin says:

      @Serenegoose have you tried using offline mode? It’s sometimes very finicky for me, but if it works then you can just go to file -> go offline on one computer, then connect to the account on another computer. You can actually sometimes even get games to do multiplayer through LAN when the accounts are in offline mode.

      And if you don’t feel like downloading specific games again, you can copy-paste the game files and then hit install, it will just take a second to verify that the files are there.

    • Vinraith says:


      The game will sell remarkably well (already is, really) regardless of its Steam integration, most people simply don’t care. Until and unless Steam causes a problem for them, they’re not going to care. That’s the most dangerous thing about a system like Steam, really. You don’t realize how intrusive it is until it stops working for you.

    • Hmm says:

      About sales – I’m serious. Ask Amnesia devs. The sales of the game went down the drain as soon as “-20%off preorder” ended. If you ask people what they like about Steam, one of the first if not the first thing you’ll hear is “amazing deals”, “I stopped buying games for full price, because I’ll buy all games at least 50% off during Steam’s amazing sales”. That does not benefit PC gaming, quite the contrary.
      Making the game Steam exclusive is ridiculous. I want to buy the game from Impulse. Gamersgate. They have much more consumer-friendly DRM policy. Oh wait, I won’t buy Civ 5 from them, because I can’t. I want to be able to install my retail copy without going through the hoops of installing a storefront client I shouldn’t need, updating it, then asking Valve for permission to install the game and have their crap constantly running in the background. It annoys me. It’s almost as bad as Ubisoft’s always online DRM. Instead of being online, I am forced to have what feels like a spyware running every time I want to play.

      I can’t wait for Stardock to get their shit together and start advertsing Impulse Reactor like mad to developers and publishers. Elemental needs fixes, but Reactor works. If I get everything Steamworks offers without installing any crap that must be running in the background all the time, can upload mods to the cloud for everyone to download and can buy games from every digital store including Steam, all those things make Steam outdated in my book.

    • Gnarf says:

      Making the game Steam exclusive is ridiculous. I want to buy the game from Impulse. Gamersgate. They have much more consumer-friendly DRM policy. Oh wait, I won’t buy Civ 5 from them, because I can’t.

      I want to buy it from Aaron Bishop because he does like honorware and then goes freeware instead after a while. Real consumer-friendly. Oh wait, I won’t buy Civ 5 from him, because I can’t.

    • Gnarf says:

      I think Steam is better than Impulse because it has like Civilization V and things on it while Impulse does not have like Civilization 5 and things on it.

    • Web Cole says:

      @Hmm, you just compared the sales trend of an extremely niche horror game (brilliant as it may be) to, er, Civilisation like that somehow makes sense. I have friends who “don’t play games” who play Civ, seriously.

    • Cog says:

      “I can’t wait for Stardock to get their shit together…”

      If Elemental is any indication of Stardock’s shit-togetherness (and I am going to argue that it certainly is) you’re going to be waiting a long time.

    • StingingVelvet says:

      @ Vinraith

      Well said.

      I know a lot of people love Steam, but it annoys me that any complaint about it on any forum is met by 100 replies talking about how awesome it is. There are serious concerns with the service, but speaking about them on any level gets you labled a Steam “hater” or ignorant of how awesome it really is.

      For me it offers me nothing but DRM. I don’t play online, I don’t want to chat with people, I just want to play my game. Steam makes me activate and play through their client… that annoys me, because I have no use for it. Pirates don’t have to do that, so it’s insulting. Why not make it optional? Just for control and DRM… neither of which are effective.

      And even if I liked the service there are real concerns with how large it is getting, how hard it will be to sell games off of Steam at some point, the DRM aspects, the closure of accounts and losing all games, how common it makes sales and thus lowers full price sales (Valve say this doesn’t happen but test with their own games, not indies and such… look at Amnesia, sales are lower than expected and their official blog speculates people are waiting for the inevitable $5 sale).

      Mentioning these concerns makes you come off like a paranoid whiner to many people when they are real concerns… they are real changes to how we buy games and how long they last.

      As Vinraith said, no one cares until it effects them, and I understand that, but I’m not big on ignorance and jumping to the defense of something with real flaws.

    • battles_atlas says:

      You have some points, but it seems rather unfair to attack steam for starting to become a monopoly – you’re attacking them for being more popular (aka ‘better’ in the eyes of users) than any other service. You should attack everyone else for being worse.

      Also whilst it certainly does worry me that my games collection now depends on the ongoing health of steam, truth is that makes them probably far safer than my old hard copies, many of which have gone missing or died a scratched disc death. Steam also keeps them safe from my house getting burgled or spontaneously imploding… there are positives.

      Essentially if you are angered about Steam, you should be getting pissed at capitalism, not them: the unwelcome elements boil down to market logic. The nasty DRM is demanded by publishers, its to valve’s credit that they’ve made this pretty much entirely painless for most of us. God knows there could be far worse parties dominating the market (MS).

    • theleif says:

      @Serenegoose You could try to buy your games on 2 different accounts. Or else, just start steam in offline mode on one of the computers, and you can both play happily, as long as you don’t play the same game at the same time online.

    • frymaster says:

      “to be very little DRM on the games we used to buy”

      just to add to what nick said, there was also lenslock:
      link to birdsanctuary.co.uk

      the original user-hostile DRM. the pain of having to reload the bloody game off casette because you couldn’t read the bastarding code had to be experienced to be believed.

      frankly I’m happy to use a “DRM” system that actually enforces my digital rights as well and lets me run the game on any computer at any time, with the only restriction being I can only be online at one location at any time, if only because I don’t have a huge pile of loose DVDs on top of my PC any more

    • Urael says:

      You know what, I’m too tired to throw down on the ‘anti-Steam’ side any more. Tired of raising a few objections only to be roundly shouted down by the Cult of Steam/Valve. The majority has spoken – “We absolutely DO NOT WANT DRM…except for Steam, ‘cos we LOVE Steam!”. Valve are generally a force for good so I can relax a little for now: Steam less so but then it’s a business and only fools trust capitalist entities to look out for their best interests.

      I’m genuinely worried by Steam’s ability to dictate the way the PC market operates, especially as most gamers now are waiting for their dirt-cheap sales to occur before buying decent games (Poor old Amnesia…) but will acknowledge they’ve helped a few people survive that otherwise wouldn’t have.

      I also preferred gaming the way is was when I didn’t have a client holding my hand or getting in the way of playing my game, and I never used to mind the code-wheels and lens-locking, or even Starforce and their ilk; I never had a problem with them uselessly being on my machine while I cracked MY game to run without the CD, or even using them for the rare few that were left as installed.

      So yeah, this is my last rant against Steam until the inevitable apocalypse/betrayal happens whereupon I’m coming back with the mother of all ‘I TOLD YOU SO’s.

    • StingingVelvet says:

      Well said.

      I buy Steamworks games, I try not to worry about it for one simple reason: it’s not like I can’t get around it if I have to.

    • BAReFOOt says:

      It’s only ruined, if you’re retarded enough, to pay to get buttraped by it!

      Educated people know, that the actual artist don’t get anything from it anyway, and that in the real physical world, there is no such thing as “owning” ideas/data/information, and hence download a copy from a freer source.

    • Cog says:

      I’m not defending DRM, and I’m not particularly thrilled about the idea of Steam creeping toward a monopoly, but the reason that I didn’t buy Amnesia because it doesn’t appeal to me, not because I ‘m waiting for it to go on sale. I bet the overwhelming majority of people who didn’t buy it made their choice for the same reason.

    • Barman1942 says:


      No-one is saying “We don’t want any DRM at all!”. It’s more like “We don’t want the terrible, shitty DRM that harms the consumer like Ubisoft and Activision put out.” Steam is DRM done the right way. It doesn’t restrict you to how many PC’s you can install your software on, it doesn’t require you to be online, it offers great sales on games and a community feature which I use constantly, and it allows you to backup any and all of your game files. People here aren’t blindly defending Steam, it really IS a good service. But, it being a monopoly isn’t a good thing either, so people should pressure Impulse and the like to step it up.

    • Barman1942 says:

      @Urael cont.

      As for the “Steam holding your hand and being obtrusive”, I think you’re exaggerating quite a bit there. All that happens when you launch a game with Steam, is a small tab pops up in the lower left corner during the opening videos. I’d hardly call that hand-holding and obtrusive. In fact, I’m pretty certain you can turn the overlay off.

      Yep, yep you can, there’s a tab in the options specifically for that. As for Steam running in the background, it doesn’t take up that much memory at all, certainly not enough to affect the stability of the games you’re playing. And if you’re upset because you have to launch the game via Steam, there’s the option to set a shortcut on your desktop.

    • ScubaMonster says:

      @Hmm : Your argument about indie devs not making sales on Steam is a weak argument. You know how much they would have made on their own without the Steam sale? Pretty much nothing. Lots of indie devs can’t sell their games anywhere but Steam. They’ve actually managed to make money instead of losing it.

      Sure, maybe the sales drop off. But if they weren’t on Steam, they wouldn’t have made any of those sales in the first place. Show me one indie dev whose sales were actually HURT by Steam, then you might have an argument for Steam being bad for indie devs.

  4. Lack_26 says:

    I just wish I new what was going on with the pre-order Bonuses, especially since Steam seems to be giving away a whole civilisation (the Babylonians). I don’t want to miss out on a Civ but it is cheaper from Amazon.

    • Archonsod says:

      The Babylonians are only in the deluxe edition, which as far as I can see is digital only. Direct2Drive is the best deal for that – same price as Steam, but you get the first DLC pack free too.

  5. Kali says:

    Looking forward to this title so much I can’t even begin to describe my excitement other than through this huge erection.


    • Gaytard Fondue says:

      At EA’s…

    • pkt-zer0 says:

      Not happening. Also, I only knew Brian Reynolds as the guy behind the excellent Rise of Legends, and finding out he now works at Zynga was bad enough. Realizing that he was also the lead designer for Alpha Centauri has inspired much incoherent rage in me, i.e. FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU

  6. Freud says:

    This is my rabbit hole. If I go down it, I might never come back. It does look like they made fantastic design decisions in pretty much every area.

  7. Bascule42 says:

    Do people really still moan about Steam? That’s all a bit Mac Vs PC. It’s soooo naughties.

    Civ V pre-ordered for Release day delivery. I will rule the world…Mwha ha ha ha ha haa ahh *cough*

    • BAReFOOt says:

      As far as I know, fraud is still a crime, so of course they moan about anything supporting asking multiple times for money for the same service by acting as if the result of that service (information/data) could be treated like a product. DRM is a crime. But the „IP“ lie is the rotten root that’s the real crime. I did beat the crap out of the last person I met that supported the lie. (That person even harmed himself with it!) And I’ll proudly do it again.

  8. Alexander Norris says:

    Quinns: I’m totally in, as long as membership does not involve having a phallus shaped like a shovel.

  9. BenLeng says:

    No computer games has made me so excited in a long, looong time. I preordered it. PREORDERD. That’s how excited i am.

  10. laikapants says:

    I bought Civ IV Complete last Christmas, booted it up once, made a weird face and left it alone until this last week. Since Tuesday evening I’ve gotten about 12 hours of sleep, shabbily guided 3 ill named empires to the brink of glory only to see someone else edge me out at the last moment. Well until last night when I was ‘just going to see out that one tech (steel, I think)’ and 4 hours later was wringing my hands with delight as I hurled the bravest members of the Holy Ottonian Empire into the void.

    So, uh, yes, I’m ready for Civ V.

  11. Torgen says:

    Minecraft shall save me from this peril!
    (That, and LOTRO being F2P now)

  12. Dozer says:

    The last line of the 13-minute edit pretty much sums up why I shouldn’t buy this.

    “…and then you look up and it’s three o’clock in the morning.”

    Except in my experience, it would be seven o’clock. It’s a paradox. Sid Meier’s Civilisation games have the capability to destroy civilisation…

    That, and it probably won’t run nicely on my 3ghz single-core dinosaur…

  13. Doopy says:

    Looks to me like Justin Lee Collins has got a new job!

  14. Nick says:

    Have to wait till 24th in the UK =(

    • Edgar the Peaceful says:

      Yes, frankly that’s rubbish and I may have to try the old IP switcheroo.

  15. Severian says:

    I have a weird relationship with Civ. Part of me is hard-core fanboy, been playing since version 2, modded the hell out of 3, etc. But somehow got burnt out when playing 4. Got tired of the same formula, the constant slider tweaking necessary to win at higher difficulties, the massive number of cities to regulate. I sort of think I need something… new… different… still turn-based, but not Civ. Thought that was going to be Disciples III. Thought that was going to be Elemental.

    Sad face.

    So, yes, I will be getting Civ 5 – but with some trepidation, and more than a little aimed at the system requirements.

    • DrGonzo says:

      I’ve heard a lot of people concerned about the minimum specs. It seems quite reasonable to me. You need a very basic dual core and a fairly old graphics card.

    • Robert says:

      Pentium4: 3.0 GHz here. BUT IT HAS HYPERTHREADING!!!!!!1!

      That aside, I had that same thing as you, the disillusion of higher difficulty levels. I fixed that for myself. Instead of getting better and playing higher levels /repeat, i got challenge(and fun) from going ‘broader’ instead of ‘deeper’. instead of going higher in difficulty, I played challenging scenarios, semi-artificial restrictions. Sort of hard to explain, but instead of gaming the system to succeed on higher levels, I played it more relaxed and set ‘harder’ goals as a challenge instead.

  16. Tacroy says:

    At about 9:30 in the second video: aww, apparently Greg needs iron.

  17. Oneironaut says:

    I just ordered a minute ago. Best deal (for digital distribution) is to order off of D2D, use the code “PAX” for $5 off, and you also get Civ III and the first DLC for free.

  18. sfury says:

    The whole Art Deco look is spiffy.

    Reminds me of BioShock, especially the start menu – that statue and towering period buildings don’t help a bit. :)

    Apart from the pretty looks – can’t wait to get my hands on the hexes and new no-Stack-of-Doom battles – sounded scary when they announced it but now that I see it in work it’s got me excited – major and very interesting change indeed.

  19. Kyle H says:

    I heard there’s this thing called a mod, sir.

  20. Daniel Klein says:


    *ahum*. No but really. I’m a little hyped and anxious, in a happy nervous way, the way you’d be anxious to meet a long distance lover for the first time, only to settle down to a long and happy life of said lover devouring every single minute of your free time and making sure you never have any friends ever again.

    So yeah, couple of days now.

  21. Jason Moyer says:

    I think Elizabeth Tobey may be earning the nickname “The Ubiquitous Elizabeth Tobey” with her appearances in every 2k video I’ve seen of late.

  22. Vinraith says:

    I have to admit, I’m just not that motivated. Civ IV is still great, CIv IV’s mods are still great, I don’t feel like I need a new Civ yet. Add to that the Steamworks lock-in and I think I’ll wait for a nice, steep discount. The sales are, after all, really all Steam’s good for anyway.

  23. Crumpled Stiltskin says:

    Why do people that play video games look like people that would play video games?

    • Nick says:

      Vin Disel plays video games and was/is a massive PnP roleplaying fan.

    • Robert says:


    • Reefpirate says:

      If by Marketing you mean Vin Diesel really doesn’t do that stuff… You’d be wrong. He actually developed a couple of games. I forget the names of them, but it was something-something-Athena. Riddick? Chronicles of Riddick? Ya, that’s it. Apparently the games are better than the movie/s. Haven’t tried them yet though.

  24. Morte says:

    ok ignored this to now, liked civ4. Struggling to see what this improves on despite ‘hexagons’. However, steam says 24th? Everywhere else says 21st. Hrm.
    Really unconvinced, not ready to shelve civ4.

    • Zetetic says:

      Well, hexes and the related overhauls to combat do seem rather important.
      Steam says the 24th (for you) because that’s the worldwide release date, while the 21st is the North American release date. Why is there a difference? Well, there isn’t a good reason I’m afraid and the actual reasons will just annoy you.

    • Commander Gun says:

      For me it’s the other way around. Steam says 21st, but i live in the Netherlands so it should be 24th i guess

    • StarDrowned says:

      I don’t want to sound overly snarky, but ignoring the game less is probably a good step towards learning about any improvements.

      For me, I already know I’ll never be able to go back to a previous Civ game again.

  25. Batolemaeus says:

    Buying it in a box via amazon is cheaper than buying it via steam.

    Lol digital distribution.

    • Urael says:

      I love Amazon. As cheap as Steam – often MUCH cheaper. You get something to hold, carry and love while away from your PC, often including a manual (remember those?) and I don’t have to waste any of my ISPs download limit.

      I also have masses of shelf-space for my lovingly cared-for games collection. Only untidy people with no respect for possessions have to worry about scratched disks/lost bits and pieces.

      Thlllllllllllllbbbbb Steam.

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  27. Oak says:

    I never really get excited about upcoming games but I’m absolutely champing at the bit in this case.

    I’ve…I’ve even considered taking next wednesday off.

  28. Sorbicol says:

    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Been looking forward to this for months. I even scrimped enough to pre-order it. I start my new job on Monday after 10 months unemployed. Not turning up for work in my second week due to this game just isn’t going to work is it?

    • Sorbicol says:

      Oh and I did watch the whole two hours of that playthrough earlier in the week. I cannot wait for this game if it wasn’t already apparent. Should give Stardock enough time to sort out Elemental too.

  29. Zwebbie says:

    While I don’t have an intention of buying Civ V (hold your pitchforks, it’s because I’m too busy), I have to say that this way of promoting the game is excellent. A good bit of playing is far preferable to any short trailer with explosions, tag lines and pre-rendered cutscenes.

  30. jalf says:

    While I don’t have an intention of buying Civ V (hold your pitchforks, it’s because I’m too busy)

    There’s no such thing as too busy to play civ! Heretic!

    *waves pitchfork*

  31. Sparks says:

    Pre-loading this game over Steam feels somewhat depressing. Like I’ve fallen off the wagon or something and need to check into rehab.

    Don’t get me wrong, Firaxis had my money for this months and months ago. It’s just the actual act of purchasing the game and watching it slowly stream through the phoneline into my hard drive reminds me of a recovered alcoholic slowly pouring out a glass of the finest bourbon, leaning back into a green wingback chair and swirling the drink.

  32. Burningpet says:

    Well, one thing is for sure. they threw out the ui designer too early.

    those “adopt button” straight on the faces of the characters portraited in the social policies screen is no work of a decent graphic designer.

  33. fishyjoes says:

    I remember that parents bought me Alpha Centari when I was like 9 years old. I had watched my brother and his friend playing StarCraft for ever and my parents felt like I needed a computer game, too. Frankly I was very disappointed at my birthday. My gift wasnt StarCraft but some game I never heard of. The game very brownish and turnbased. That all I remember. And back than I had no idea what to do with the game. I think I never played it after the first try again.
    And now I watch the 2 hours of Civ 5 footage and I AM THRILLED! I think it looks very very interesting to me. I read the Shafer interview. I think the combat looks brilliant and I like what they changed, even though I dont know what it looked like before.
    Also my right hand is injured and I have to use the left one. No chance playing SC(2) with my left hand. But turn based Civ 5 should work just fine!

  34. Langman says:

    In the UK, this is currently £6 cheaper via online retailer than on Steam. Like every single other new release over the last however-many years.

    When will I ever have a reason to buy a *new* release on Steam? Bargains/old/obscure game I can understand, but why pay so much extra for new releases? I’ve yet to hear an explanation that makes sense (apart from a tiny minority who can’t get the much cheaper boxed copies by post for some reason).

    • Langman says:

      Just to clarify: I’ve used Steam since 2004, to activate my boxed copy of HL2, and I’ve bought various bargains over the years – and I would happily buy new games on Steam, but there’s been no reason to as of yet,

    • mrmud says:

      My reason is that the 5-10 euro that I save by buying a game at my prefered store instead of on steam is nullified by the fact that I have to get on the subway and ride a train for 40 minutes when I could be playing the game instead.

    • Langman says:

      Oh I’ve heard that reason many times – get to play a game sooner – but I don’t have a problem with waiting an extra day, or however long it is.

    • chann says:


      Adding to that is the regional pricing bastardry of *certain* publishers on Steam. I don’t like being charged $20 more just because my IP is in Oceania. I’m sure there are involved workarounds involving gifting and US accounts, but most international Steam users probably aren’t aware they’re paying a premium for an identical Steamworks game.

  35. Langman says:

    Oh I’ve heard that reason many times – get to play a game sooner – but I don’t have a problem with waiting an extra day, or however long it is.

  36. jti says:

    EA owns the rights.

  37. CloakRaider says:

    I’m damned excited, I just wish I had the money for it. I loved Civ 4.

  38. Jamstar says:

    Was anyone else disappointed to discover this wasn’t a walkthrough WITH Quinns? I’ve been a fiend for his writing lately!

  39. Boris says:

    This whet my appetite so I fired up IV again. All I can say is one unit per tile is a GOOD thing. No more endless hordes lining up to slug it out one on one with the single guy who always seems to have bribed the RNG.

  40. Nick says:

    Oh and it is utterly despicable that you have to get the special extra money edition to have all the Civs. Seriously.

    • Urael says:

      I’m still waiting for the DLC content patch for Transformers: WFC that let’s me play with Jazz, Shockwave and all the other characters reserved as retail exclusives. Silliest bloody thing I’ve ever seen, withholding content for exclusivity; it really shouldn’t be allowed. But then I suppose the mobile phone industry have been gleefully enacting the same nonsense with handsets for years now so why should gaming be any different. Sigh.

  41. Jaunty says:

    @StingingVelvet and @Vinraith

    I’m really not sure what you expect. Your points boil down to “people aren’t going to complain about what a problem steam is until it becomes a problem.” That’s just common sense. The reason people defend it right now is because it is far and away better than any other popular option out there today. So far it’s managed to keep developers and customers happy alike, if it didn’t then yes you’d expect to hear an outcry, but as it stands it’s doing well for both sides of the industry.

  42. Rii says:

    I’ll have to content myself with the demo as F1 2010 is getting my dollars this month, and next month there’s Fate of the World, and then Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit, and no doubt by then Civ 5 will appear too much a product of the past to engage my interest.

    It does look mighty fine, though.

  43. Ngoc Lob says:

    Why do this content jogs my memory of one other comparable one I read some place else?