Settle Down: Free Settlers 7 Add-On

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It’s such a shame that Settlers 7 was overshadowed by the DRM issues around it. It’s a wonderful piece of work, as pretty on the outside as the inside. You have to manufacture these great, heavy supply chains, working out all the puzzling kinks in them, and then you start swinging them around your head and beating the crap out of your opponents. Brilliant. As of this week it’s just hit version 1.11, with the new patch adding not just a new map but a whole new “Occult Science” branch for the tech tree. Did you play it, readers? What did you think? Trailer for one of the game’s two pay-for DLC packs follows…

Want to know even more about Settlers 7? Ooh, you’re a hungry one. Here‘s my Eurogamer review.

89 Comments

  1. Aldehyde says:

    Does it still have the same DRM issues, or did they remove that?

    • Vivi says:

      The game is still protected by the stupid always online DRM and the servers still go down at the most unfortunate times. In short, yes.

    • Theory says:

      I thought it was RPS’ policy to not write about games using the system.

    • Wilson says:

      Bleh. It sounds decent, but I don’t want any part of that. Maybe if they remove the DRM and the need for online servers in some future patch.

    • CreepingDeath says:

      @Vivi: “he servers still go down at the most unfortunate times”

      Having played the entirety of Assassin’s Creed 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Silent Hunter 5, and Settlers 7 I haven’t encountered a single issue with the drm, and I’m using a bog standard wireless connection.

      I in no way condone the horrible choice Ubisoft made for their DRM, but I am beginning to suspect most people just like to bitch about it on principle, regardless of how stable it is.

    • Wilson says:

      @CreepingDeath – I think it’s hard to tell. I’d rather have people moaning about it unnecessarily if there is a chance it might be really bad on my PC than have no-one mention it and find out that I can hardly play a game I’ve bought. It’s easy to say all the problems are exaggerated when you never get any and easy to say it’s totally broken and unplayable when your system happens to run into issues. Demos for the win I guess.

    • Torgen says:

      I keep looking for a demo on Steam and on the Ubi site, but haven’t seen one.

    • Collic says:

      Good game though it may be (I’ve no idea if it is, I haven’t played it) I’m sad to see RPS covering a game that uses this DRM scheme.

    • CreepingDeath says:

      @Wilson@Torgen:

      I miss pc demos, it seems no company bothers any more. Or atleast not until 2 months after the game has been out.

      Remember the good old days when a demo pre-launch was pretty much mandatory for your product to sell well? :P

      As for a demo of this game, here you go Torgen
      link to gamershell.com

    • Torgen says:

      Thanks, CD. Hope the demo doesn’t have the DRM. (Who am I kidding?) I just hope it doesn’t leave services on my computer after I uninstall the demo.

    • Archonsod says:

      It’s not so much DRM as having around 1% of the game files only hosted on their server, so you need to connect to download them to play. That and a fairly basic encryption of the files so the key needs to be retrieved.

      Ubi’s client (U Play) is purely online as far as I can see, trying to access the U Play client or the Ubi store actually minimises or closes the game and launches a browser. There’s nothing on the system that I can find. Which makes it somewhat preferable to Steam in my book.

    • Vinraith says:

      @Theory

      RPS seems to have exactly the same level of conviction as the majority of PC gamers on this subject, as I’m sure will be demonstrated throughout this thread. Lots of loud talk about principles, no follow-through, and every time the majority gives in and accepts something like this the next thing is just a bit worse. I’m sincerely starting to wonder if the bastardry-creep will ever end.

    • Ergates says:

      “I thought it was RPS’ policy to not write about games using the system.”
      No, I think you’ve just imagined that.

    • Vinraith says:

      @Ergates

      No, he didn’t.

      link to rockpapershotgun.com

      While we’ve not always gone full-pelt protest against excessive DRM, this is open contempt for paying customers, and, quite frankly, it’s the most valid reason yet for PC gamers to call a massed boycott. We’ll certainly be ignoring it with all the passion we can muster.

    • Ergates says:

      Fair enough – I retract my statement.

    • Sagan says:

      This post had gotten my hopes up, because I thought that RPS writing about the game meant, that they had dropped the DRM with the DLC. Turns out Quinns just doesn’t know the rules around here.

    • battles_atlas says:

      Do we have to boycott Quinns now? Man, this protest stuff is so emotionally draining. On facebook yesterday I effectively severed my friendship with a guy who’s just become a banker, by gently suggesting he might be ‘part of the biggest crime committed against the British public’, and now I’ve lost Quinns too. My face is sad.

    • Josh W says:

      I’m trying to boycot as happily and unemotionally as I can; it’s just like something is too expensive, it’s a cost I’m just not willing to pay. I don’t agonise about this stuff just like I don’t agonise about a private jet. Someone wants too much for it.

      Ok it’s not just that, it’s someone sneaking an extra cost or restriction into the bargain that you don’t appreciate till you’ve started to get comfortable with the idea, like a jet that is interest free credit for 5 years but you only see the free part of the sentence.

      I’m perfectly capable of watching out for this stuff and just turning it down, but still, I’d rather not have reviews get my hopes up about it. It’s really awesome the stand you’ve semi-taken on this issue, just like I imagine you wouldn’t review $1000000000 games and say “if only you could buy it! You neeed this.”, it’s a nice alignment of review-attitude and the consumer position of readers, and I’d appreciate it if you could keep that stance.

    • ix says:

      @Creeping: My brother owns Settlers 7 and was disconnected quite regularly right after launch, plus a few times after that (as the amount of players went down a bit, it became more stable). It’s not hard to see that problems are likely to differ depending on your geographic locale and play times, but they are definitely bound to occur (the cost of having the kind of uptime that avoids them completely would be absolutely prohibitive). I’d take a moment and think things through before basically accusing people of lying.

  2. toaster says:

    YOOOOOObisoft.

    Their DRM makes me want to vomit. The only reason I don’t buy their games anymore. It’s just not worth it, especially with my piss poor Internet connection.

    • Soundofvictory says:

      I just want to say that I gave in and bought Splinter Cell: Conviction on a GoGamer.com 48 hour madness sale for $10. I do not even notice the DRM.

      Conviction is one of the best stealth games ever made. I think it is my favorite one.

  3. Jetsetlemming says:

    It’s less a matter of the “DRM issues”, and more a matter of the DRM, period. I’ve got FIOS and it still has the occasional hiccup, making Assassin’s Creed 2 a chore to play. Not going to buy any other game on Ubisoft’s Uplay system, no matter how good it might be.

  4. TenjouUtena says:

    I play this. I love it. I’d play it more if the stupid Play Ubisoft thing worked better and would let me.

    I’ma go download new content tonight!

  5. Dak says:

    Well, the DRM stil being there is unfortunate. I’m not afraid of DRM, but the issues that this game and Ubi have with their DRM servers still make this a non-purchase for me until those issues are resolved or they remove the DRM from S7 altogether.

    Sad, since I am a huge fan of the Settlers series.

    • Torgen says:

      Me too.

      A damned shame. I was really looking forward to this.

  6. Javier-de-Ass says:

    people actually have problems with the drm? or are you all lying? I haven’t had anything weird happen in any of my ubidrm games (assassinscreed2, silenthunter5, splintercellconviction and this). it doesn’t seem to mind the occasional connection hickup. which is more than I can say for steam and the steam client, I’m more offended really each time rps writes about steam crap. they should have a policy against that shitty system.

    • dangel says:

      …yeah shitty steam with it’s shitty OFFLINE mode

      pfft!

      THE BASTARDS!

    • Ergates says:

      I have used steam to play single player steam-bought games whilst having no connection whatsoever.

      If you honestly prefer the UPlay system to Steam I think it’s fairly safe to say you’re in the minority. A tiny one at that.

    • sinister agent says:

      You haven’t had any problem with DRM-ed games. Fair enough. However, some people have.

      If even one person has a problem with a game’s DRM, then that game has performed worse than every game without DRM. And worse than every pirated game, too, because they obviously don’t have the DRM.

      So, y’know. It doesn’t actually matter if the number of people who have technical problems as a result of it is small – if the number actually exists, then the DRM is harming legitimate customers, and doing nothing whatsoever to owners of illegitimate copies.

    • IslamicShock says:

      This is a hilarious example of what I’ve decided to call Internet narcissism.

      “It works for me, so everyone who has a problem with it must be lying.”

      It’s really weird that somebody can physically write that sentence and not understand why it’s unreasonable.

      Offline mode in Steam has been rock solid for me the last few times I’ve used it, like when Comcast decides to go down for 8 hours at a time. It didn’t use to be so, but Valve got their act together and made it relatively seamless.

    • drewski says:

      @ IslamicShock – didn’t you just do exactly the same thing that you’re criticising the OP for, albeit without the specific accusation of falsehood?

      Your anecdotal evidence of problem free Steam gaming is no more or less valid than his anecdotal evidence of problem free Uplay gaming…

  7. Huw says:

    Stop teasing me RPS! I desperately want to buy this game, but I wlil NOT accept the DRM implementation that comes with it.

    • Urael says:

      Me neither. I’ve had some really good times with Settlers 6. Building stuff is…relaxing. This one looks even better (can you actually build something like in the screenshot up there??).

      Not touching it with that DRM in place, though. No sir, not me.

  8. BobJustBob says:

    The DRM doesn’t eliminate this from purchase consideration but it does mean it’s not worth full price. Or half price. For such a critically flawed piece of otherwise fine software, I may be willing to pay up to twenty dollars.

    • zegenie says:

      I’ll tell you where the bomb is for a pound.

    • DAdvocate says:

      “The DRM doesn’t eliminate this from purchase consideration but it does mean it’s not worth full price.”

      Same here, I had been holding out either for the price to drop or a DLC removal patch but I’ve finally caved in after reading this news (plus it’s only £10 now). While the constant internet connection could be an inconvenience, it is no worse than is required to play any MMORPG.

    • khrono says:

      I was in the same boat. I picked it up for only $15 yesterday from Impulse. Sadly, it looks like the sale is over. Keep an eye out for these crazy Christmas sales.

    • Archonsod says:

      Yup, so far I’ve only bought the Ubi DRM protected games during sales. I wonder if Ubi will get the message that their DRM stance actually reduces the value of the game…

    • Thants says:

      Not if people keep buying them they won’t.

  9. Gunnar says:

    Nope. With this kind of DRM Ubisoft sells nothing to me. Damn shame, too, because I was really looking forward to Assassins Creed 2. But there are other folks out there who do not punish me for being stupid enough to give them some of my money.

    • Sunjumper says:

      This.
      I was very much looking forward to Assassin’s Creed 2 and the Settlers did look tempting as did the new Silent Hunter. But as long as this DRM is in place I won’t buy it.

    • HexagonalBolts says:

      I got Assassins’ Creed 2 – it really isn’t worth all the hype. It is mind numbingly repetitive, every single objective I have encountered many hours in to the game is simply ‘run here’ with a twist (i.e. run here and collect the bird nest. Run here, watch a dramatic movie, and run away again). It has bored me to tears to such an extent with the run here missions that I’m struggling to continue.

  10. AndrewC says:

    COR but it looks nice. I’m afraid my problems with it involve my brain melting when it comes to economics and strategy and resource manableblebleblumblefloootmuurrrrrrrrrrrr

  11. abhishek says:

    Yea the DRM worked flawlessly (and by that I mean, absolutely transparently) for the 2 games I played (AC2 and Splinter Cell). I’ve been wanting to get The Settlers 7 since it released but for some reason it has never been on sale on Steam. Hoping it will be discounted during the Christmas sale soon. People who skip AC2 because of this are doing themselves a great disservice as it is one of the best games I can think of in recent years.

    If you have a stable internet connection (it doesn’t even have to be fast), you will not notice the DRM at all. Even if your internet does have hiccups now and then, it saves state and you can start from right there when you’re up and running again. Fallout New Vegas will have more crashes, more bugs, more gameplay time wasted due to lost/corrupted saves and everything, but that game gets heaped with praises (not undeserved mind you). AC2 however, gets crucified even though it will have less problems. I bet most of the whiners never even gave it a chance.

    For the guy who asked for a demo above, here it is… link to news.bigdownload.com

    • IslamicShock says:

      I have a Comcast connection near a university campus. It’s my only option, and it’s not stable – the Splinter Cell game that uses the same DRM is unplayable. I would love to play this game, but I can’t take the risk.

  12. Archonsod says:

    Bought it from Direct2Drive earlier this week and was lucky enough to win the 1 in 5 free, so I got the gold edition for £0.00p (the regular is still on sale there for £15).

    It is a fantastic game and a good return to form for the series as a whole. Got the DLC packs cheap to boot.

    DRM wise, I’m not too bothered by it when they actually use the online restriction to add stuff to the game, as they do here. It’s when it does nothing but DRM that it pisses me off (looking at Assassin’s Creed II here).
    Not hit any problems and my Net connection has been temperamental with the weather being what it is. I did lose connection once during a skirmish, but it lets you either wait till it reconnects or save and quit to sort it out.

  13. The Sombrero Kid says:

    Ditch the DRM & i’ll play it, until then you can release all the free content you like, it’s still not gonna happen.

  14. ceebux says:

    +1 for playing through this in its entirety without a single issue.

    Brilliant game, too.

  15. noobnob says:

    Well, can’t say that this wasn’t expected: any discussion tangibly related to Ubisoft will unavoidably derail to bickering concerning their DRM system. Not that I approve it, but god, it shows that this DRM has really hurt Ubisoft’s reputation.

    If you really want to keep talking about the DRM more than the game itself, there’s always the RPS Ubisoft articles (notice how many of the recent articles has the acronym “DRM” in it), which includes Phill Cameron’s DRMatic report on Splinter Cell: Conviction.

    In other news, videogames: how does Settlers 7 compare to Settlers 2? That’s the only one I liked.

    • Torgen says:

      I liked Settlers III, with the way they made their own little paths, and the ground would get worn the more they traveled over it. It made them seem more alive than little automatons follows the “rails” you laid out for them.

    • Ergates says:

      To the geologists still do a backflip and say “WOOHOO” when they find minerals? That was my favourate bit from the old Amiga incarnation

  16. Heliocentric says:

    Settlers 7 has a lovely demo, played its lots. Won’t ever buy the game asis obv.

  17. MadTinkerer says:

    Dear Ubisoft,

    I’m so sorry that you’re the only publisher I’m boycotting right now. Like EA and Activision, I have much of your back catalogue. EA and Activision have also done many more horrible things in the past than you have (that I’ve heard about, anyway). But you really need to get rid of the abusive DRM before I’ll buy your games again. I’m still boycotting MW2 over the Infinity Ward scandal, but I’m not boycotting all of Acti-Blizz. I’m still not buying Madden on the principle of EA putting out The Same Damn Game Every Year At Full Price As If It Was New, but I’ll still buy most other EA games.

    I have nearly 400 little icons in my Steam Games list, many of which are older Ubisoft titles. I would like Settlers 7 to join them, but I’m not going to buy it until you allow me to install 100% of the game on my hard drive JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME DOES.

    A short anecdote: Hellgate London had an activation server for multiplayer that is now gone so I cannot play multiplayer HG:L (which is all right because IMHO HG:L is better single-player after patches). However, I can still play HG:L singleplayer, because only the multiplayer relied on a server.

    Settlers 7 requires a constant connection to a server for single-player. This is madness; this is heresy: this is Ubisoft.

    I hope you come to your senses some day soon.

    Sincerely,
    The Mad Tinkerer

  18. Andrew says:

    Games using a DRM like this should be ignored.
    The only reason I do not buy excellent games like Settlers 7 or for example Assassin’s Creed 2 is the draconian DRM.
    I did play the full games though ;), so what was it the DRM was supposed to prevent in the first place?
    I would be very happy to ad these games to my extensive collection as soon as the DRM is removed.

    • The Sombrero Kid says:

      +1

    • abhishek says:

      You lose the right to complain about DRM if you pirate the game.

    • Andrew says:

      “abhishek says:
      December 9, 2010 at 7:52 pm
      You lose the right to complain about DRM if you pirate the game.”

      Nonsense, I pirate the game exactly because it uses this draconian DRM. I would love to buy this game and ad it to my collection.

      I am not at all against DRM in general. I own an original game collection that consists of several hundreds of games, bought during more than 30 years of intense gaming. I feel gamers do not have to put up with Ubisoft’s totally useless, superfluous DRM shit. It does not prevent piracy at all. It has no effect on piracy whatsoever. But it is worrying to see how especially the younger generations appear to become more submissive and accepting of this kind of absurd DRM. I suppose those who think Ubisoft’s ridiculous DRM scheme is normal also think that it is normal that many 70 dollar games can be played through in just one afternoon these days. Gamers are getting conned and many don’t even realize it, or think this is the way it should be.

      And I do not need the right to complain. I complain when I want to complain. I do not wait for Ubisoft’s permission.

    • Archonsod says:

      Every time you pirate the game the publishers register it as a lost sale. As long as the value of the perceived lost sales is larger than the cost of implementing the DRM, they’ll be adding the DRM. So you can bitch and moan all you want, at the end of the day all you’re telling the publisher is that it’s worth spending more money on ever more elaborate DRM protection.

    • P34nk says:

      @Archonsod: Really now? Okay, lets wait and see how much CD Projekt will lose/gain money with their Witcher 2 NO-DRM solution.

      At least they already have my money in their bank account, and I probably will be buying more copies if they are going to produce more expansion packs/sequels.

  19. Hyudra says:

    Games with this degree of DRM are nonentities as far as I’m concerned. They don’t deserve the publicity of being reported on, because the only people who are buying these (read: Ubisoft) games are the ignorant (ie. “What’s DRM? Why doens’t my game work?”) and those without self respect.

    • Ergates says:

      Lack of self respect – yes, thats the only reason someone might buy a game knowning it has DRM built in. Couldn’t possibly be any other reason, like they just have different priorities to you and don’t really care about the DRM. Or that they’ve looked into it and don’t believe it’ll cause a significant enough inconvenience to them to warrent avoiding. No, the only possible reason they’d do that is that they’re pathetic losers with no self respect.

    • Hyudra says:

      No. You misread my argument, Mr. Sarcastic. Lack of self respect isn’t the only reason someone might buy a game with DRM. Ignorance is a big part. Not just ignorance as to the existence of DRM, but ignorance as to the eventual consequences of it.

      DRM doesn’t work. What does work is having a game that’s well supported enough post-launch, and cheap enough that it’s worth buying to avoid the hassle of constantly updating a pirated edition, or having enough tertiary benefits (online play, leaderboards, community) to make it worth the dollar.

      The thing is, DRM doesn’t work, but publishers go bugnuts over the piracy and continually step up the DRM in a (vain) attempt to fix things. By supporting games with DRM (buying them), a gamer is screwing themselves over down the road. Buy Ubisoft’s games with extreme DRM measures (and Ubisoft’s current DRM is viewed by a majority as to where the line needs to be drawn in the sand) and you’re just asking for more intrusive and problematic digital rights management down the line. You’re benefiting yourself in the short term and doing games and gamers a disservice in the long run.

      Ubisoft needs to be told that their current stance & measures are hurting them and they need to know expressly why. We can’t deny them sales entirely – there’s enough 13 year old gamers out there that they’ll still sell – but we can try to make a dent while sustaining a clear voice as to why we’re not buying. To do otherwise is short sighted and devalues one’s self and one’s community.

    • abhishek says:

      Ubisoft needs to be told that their current stance & measures are hurting them and they need to know expressly why.

      It’s really not hurting them. Like everyone else, they know the real money is in the consoles and not the PC. Not anymore.

      Here’s how this scenario plays out. You refuse to buy the game. You miss out on what I’ve read is a fabulous game, and one of the very rare PC exclusives we get these days. Ubisoft loses a sale. If they lose enough sales, it’s not worth it for them to make another game in the series. They just stop, and the studio possibly gets shut down. If they don’t lose enough sales, they’ll think the whole outcry against the DRM wasn’t a big deal. End result? You don’t get to play the game, and your actions do not have any positive outcome from your point of view.

      Here’s the thing… companies like Ubisoft don’t have a column in their register which tells them how much a game could/should/would have sold if they had done xyz. You’d need a bonafide magician to be able to predict that number accurately. What they do know, however, is how many copies they *need* to sell to be profitable. That’s the number that ultimately matters to them.

      I have a feeling Ubisoft will eventually change their DRM scheme again. You could count that as your moral victory over them, but honestly, Ubisoft has genuinely tried everything. They even tried no DRM at all for a few games, and that didn’t work out for them either. You could argue that they were not good games but in the end, it’s not like people decided to reward them for not using DRM. And they didn’t care then either. So why would they start to care if it went the other way?

    • Archonsod says:

      Which is about as sensible an argument as “the only people who ever have problems with DRM are pirates and idiots who should have stuck to consoles”.

      Funny thing is, U Play is little different from Steam. It has no offline mode naturally, but then it doesn’t insist I install a client on my system either. And to be honest if there were ever a time I was left without an internet connection I’d be more concerned with restoring it than playing games.

      “It’s really not hurting them. Like everyone else, they know the real money is in the consoles and not the PC. Not anymore.”

      I wouldn’t bet on it. Note that the Settlers 7 integrates with Facebook. I suspect they’re chasing the Zinga millions.

    • Thants says:

      “If they lose enough sales, it’s not worth it for them to make another game in the series. They just stop, and the studio possibly gets shut down.”

      Good! If they’re intent on screwing over their customers they should get shut down. It’s not our damn job to teach them how to be good companies. It depressing to see how quickly something like this DRM goes from unthinkable to accepted.

    • Andrew says:

      “So you can bitch and moan all you want, at the end of the day all you’re telling the publisher is that it’s worth spending more money on ever more elaborate DRM protection.”

      Archonsod,
      perhaps you are right, but I still won’t buy the game and I will play it anyhow. And I will spent my money on games that do not use this ridiculous kind of DRM. There are several reasonable DRM schemes out there that are very acceptable. It is not as if Ubisoft does not have a reasonable choice.
      Using draconian DRM schemes will never make me buy the game anyhow. It simply will not happen. You seem to be under the impression that I am trying to influence Ubisoft by my behavior. I do not want to tell them anything like you said. I am not. I simply react to what is unacceptable to me.

      If Ubisoft decided to release a patch after 6 months or a year to relax the DRM I would certainly buy the games at that point. The way it is now I consider the games only playable after they have been ‘repaired’ by the concerned community. I do not buy games that need ‘repairing’, certainly not at full price. And even without Ubisoft relaxing the DRM I will for example buy Assassin’s Creed 2 when it costs less than 5 bucks. That is what I personally consider a reasonable price for a game with this DRM.

      And when the time comes that a ridiculous DRM scheme like Ubisoft’s will prevent me from playing Ubisoft’s games at all, then I will simply ignore Ubisoft and its products completely. Like they never existed. Ubisoft’s games are not an essential part of my life. On the other hand, adopting a reasonable DRM scheme will make me Ubisoft’s loyal customer instantly, because there are several excellent Ubisoft games I would enjoy buying. I am simply stating how I react to Ubisoft’s actions. I am not trying to make Ubisoft do anything. I have not contacted them in any way. I am not trying to influence their decisions at all. I am just stating how I react to a given situation. What Ubisoft does is what Ubisoft does. What I do is what I do. I am not saying you should do the same.

  20. Christopher M. says:

    Y’know, if you make independent uPlay accounts for every Ubisoft game you purchase, you can retain the ability to resell your games. Difficult, but the Punch Big Brother potential is there.

    Me, I bought it (Legitimately!) for less than twenty bucks in June. I don’t know if it was worth it or not – Ubisoft decided I had a pirated version and locked me out, so I had to get another copy. Scary company, that.

  21. evilsooty says:

    As a big fan of Settlers since the original on the Amiga I decided to buy it even with the awful DRM system. I haven’t encountered anything game-breaking yet, but it does take a long time (at least a minute, sometimes more) to login to their authentication servers before the game even boots.

    The only people who can play the game without any hassle are the pirates as the DRM was cracked shortly after release! Madness. Blue Byte deserves a better publisher than Ubisoft.

    • Vandelay says:

      That is strange, as I would say it logs in very quickly with Assassin’s Creed 2. As an estimate, it only adds about 5 seconds to the boot up time. It is certainly much quicker than Steam to load a game up.

      If I had to choose between always connected Internet and limited installs I would definitely go for the former, which I may not have said before trying it. I don’t get very good wireless signal, so during the about 10 hours of play of AssCreed I’ve had the connection drop a couple of times, but it is pretty painless when it comes back a few seconds later. Some tweeking so it tries to connect a few times over the course of a couple of minutes before dropping completely would make the thing all but invisable, but its current incarnation really isn’t as bad as the boycotts expect it to be.

      Quite honestly, as DRMs go, there are other systems that are more deserving of the ranting (I would include Steam, which I’m a big fan of.)

    • Archonsod says:

      It depends on the game. With Settlers 7 it synchronises with the cloud prior to launching, so if you’ve a few local saves which haven’t been sent up and a slow upwards pipe then it can take it a while to start up while it copies those games over. Actually logging in takes a second or so.

    • Vandelay says:

      Ah, that explains it. I’m only playing AC2 on a single machine, so didn’t bother with the cloud saves. I could see how that would extend the load up time.

  22. ts061282 says:

    Here’s the rub. You can’t pirate games with DRM… and if you can’t pirate games, you can’t play them and see if they are garbage before paying more money than can be risked on entertainment. I did buy this and enjoyed it, but generally won’t risk buying games with DRM. Not for more than $20 and not unless they’re on something like Steam. If i’m going to be tied down, I might as well be tied down comfortably.

    Looking forward to trying this, but I came to the conclusion originally that the fun was in learning the system and once seen as that, the fun is somewhat gone.

    • MaXimillion says:

      Since when can you not pirate games with DRM?

    • Hyudra says:

      Just to clarify what MaXimillion said, ts061282, you can pirate games with DRM. At most, it takes 24 hours longer for the big name pirates to crack it, but then it’s freely available to any John Q Public with a search engine & Bittorrent, and the same number of editions are pirated as anything else.

      It’s pointless, which is why so many groan and moan about the subject of DRM. It only hurts the honest consumer (be it as small as 5 seconds added load time, being unable to play the game you bought for long stretches of time, or being unable to sign into the game 3 years down the line after the servers have gone down).

  23. Di says:

    Man, I always die a little when I see those sprawling-city-on-a-complex-terrain screenshots. I want to build a giant medieval metropolis so bad, and when I get the game in my sweaty hands it turns out that I can only build a moderately sized village on a more or less level strip of land.

  24. Torgen says:

    Update on demo: Installed, made Ubislave account, but there’s no manual, and due to be hearing impaired I really have no idea what the man in the video tutorials is saying. So I closed the video tutorial, fumbled around figuring out how to build a quarry, but couldn’t figure out how to rotate the camera in order to place the road where I wanted. Closed out (because I have some work to do,) had to click through at least five splash screens, THEN Ubi launches IE and loads their website, which I close, and open Firefox, whereupon Ubi hijacks THAT and opens their page and starts playing an extremely loud video.

    Mentioned this to a friend via IM, and he said “That isn’t a game, that’s malware.”
    I am *so* not impressed, but due to affection for Blue Byte, I’ll try again later.

    • Archonsod says:

      The speech has subtitles IIRC. Most of it is irrelevant blather to be honest though, if you look in the mission bar at the bottom left you can click on any mission for further info. You can also click the question mark in the little pop up boxes next to it for a brief video of what you should be doing too.

      It’s not actually that different from most 3D games. Left button and dragging moves the screen, middle button rotates, scroll wheel zooms IIRC. To build a quarry you need to build a mountain shelter near the rocks; you can use the mousewheel to rotate the footprint. The little green boxes next to it are workyard areas, try to keep them clear. Once the mountain shelter is down make sure it’s connected to the road, click the shelter blueprint then click one of the green arrows and opt to build a quarry. Pretty much every building is constructed the same way. The tricky part is usually determining what hub coincides with what workyards at first.

      Not sure about the splash screens. I’m assuming they’re the “please buy this” crap that gets loaded into every demo.

    • Torgen says:

      Aha, I was trying ctrl- or shift- with the left or right mouse button, in order to rotate the screen. Thanks.

      I grokked the placement of the workyards and roads from the video, but couldn’t find the subtitle button in options. I’ll look for it later. Thanks again for the hints!

  25. Kingmarzo says:

    I dont know if its been said previously but its £9.99 at Game.co.uk to download directly. Just for today:

    link to game.gamesplanet.com

  26. rocketman71 says:

    UbiShit DRM still in?.

    Pass.

  27. Jake says:

    What if you buy the game but play the pirated version just to avoid the DRM?

  28. Blitz says:

    Well Jake, all you’re doing is telling Ubisoft that you’re ok with that type of draconion DRM.

  29. Bettik says:

    Will not buy, will not play, will not download demo ( and no, will not pirate, or borrow from a friend, or whatever the hell) until the DRM is gone. This goes for Assassin’s Creed 2 and all the other permanently online games they bring out as well. Shame, as I actually wouldn’t mind playing most of them (apart from the submarine one, no interest there). Still, line has to be drawn somewhere, and always on connectivity for single player games shows a contempt for paying customers I am not willing to put up with.

  30. MrEvilGuy says:

    It’s funny cause Razor1911 and reloaded (warez groups) are having a BLAST with this new Ubisoft DRM.

    Take a look at this little comment found in the information for an easily available pirated, DRM free (heavenly!), version of Settlers 7:

    “Finally, there’s a chance of the good ol’ times coming back (when
    protections had to be dealt with on a per title basis by skilled
    individuals) and an opportunity of telling the sharpies from the fakers
    again. Thanks Ubi! (Yup, we’re actually serious about this :))”

  31. Tommo says:

    I couldnt even get the demo to run on my system, it complained about not having internet connection because the demo is infected with UBIdrm. I disabled firewalls everything I could think of but no go. Then Skidrowdies release their version of the full game and BAM i can play 1st go.
    Im a huge fan of Settlers and would love to buy it but seeing as even the demo wont run for me, NO SALE.

  32. drewski says:

    If they ever release a patch removing the DRM, I might pick this up and give it a whirl. Until then…no thanks!

  33. ChrisP says:

    I bought this yesterday (sorry for supporting Ubi’s DRM guys), and I have to say I love this game! Totally worth the ~$30 from gamersgate. Played it for 3 hours last night and can’t wait to get back to it tonight.

    The DRM is completely unobtrusive for me, so far. I wouldn’t even know it was there if I hadn’t read this thread. So, I don’t know, give it a try.

    I would like to see more from this developer, they’ve made something really good here and I hope they can keep it up. The graphics are amazing and the gameplay is solid (from what I’ve seen). Colour me impressed.

    • sneetch says:

      So it was completely unobtrusive for the 3 hours you’ve played so far? That doesn’t really say much.

      I would love to get Settlers 7 but I will continue to boycott all Ubisoft products (on all platforms) until they drop the DRM and I can skip it altogether if they don’t.

      A pity, but it’s saved me hundreds of euro so far so it’s probably not a bad thing.

  34. Gojiro0 says:

    yeah, still haven’t gotten around to downloading this AND The crack as I will NEVER pay Ubisoft one red cent to support their draconian and sadly myopic bulls**t attempt at punishing their customers, oops, sorry, pirates. Seriously sad about this one as I always loved the Settlers series and I was looking forward to this one…if I could find a way to send money directly to the devs I would. Anyone got an idea?