New Relic RTS To Be Revealed In August

So, yes. According to THQ bossman Danny Bilson a new Relic RTS will be announced in August 2011. But what could it be? Carefully placing my speculation coronet on my head, I am able to say that it will probably be a new Company Of Heroes game. The Company Of Heroes Online project seems to have sputtered out, so the devs from that will have to use their expertise somewhere else. We’re unlikely to get a “new” Dawn Of War game (there’s got to be at least one more expansion for 2 in the pipeline) and as far as I understand it the Homeworld franchise is entombed somewhere deep in the bowls of ActiBlizzard. THQ does own Homeworld after all. So CoH it probably is.

Unless – gasp! – it’s something that is actually new. Could it really be possible? Maybe they will do an Epic scale 40K RTS. That might be fun/impossible. Any thoughts, internet?


  1. bjbrains says:

    THQ retrieved the Homeworld IP rights two years ago. So Homeworld 3 looks like the most ‘obvious’ play

    • Durkonkell says:

      Ooh! I did not know this.


    • coldvvvave says:

      Not going to happen.

    • Jim Rossignol says:

      Ok! Gosh. Any proof for that? Because I am fairly certain Relic said “not possible” recently.

    • Commisar says:

      Well, i would be very happy either with Homeworld 3, cuz we need an awesome space sim game, or an epic 40K scale RTS, with Titans and Deathstrike missiles

    • pingualot says:

      I read in PCGamer that THQ said that Homeworld 3 was unlikely because of the poor sales of 2.

    • Bhazor says:

      Well bugger.

      Still there’s always the “Spritual Sequel” route. I just don’t see them making a new COH game so soon after the online game collapsed.

    • ReV_VAdAUL says:

      To be fair Homeworld 2 had a number of design flaws that made it less good than 1 and Cata. Make a good Homeworld game and I’m sure it’d sell.

    • Collic says:

      Oh man, another homeworld. Those games where fantastic. I regularly play through homeworld 2. I pray there is some truth to this.

      edit: okay, it seems not. I still have hope though.

    • Cinek says:

      “Because I am fairly certain Relic said “not possible” recently.” – They only said that they’d like to make it but don’t see a chance for it currently, or something like that, not that it’s not possible… it’s very much possible considering the THQ acquisition of copyrights to the series.

    • Scroll says:

      I remember a Relic employee hinting at one of their teams working on an older Homeworldy license.

      This was a long while a go though, but I have hope. Homeworld with some of the more modern relic design elements? Sounds delicious.

    • Cinek says:

      Homeworld 2 had a number of design flaws that made it less good” – it wasn’t the design flaws, it was the storyline being a flaw. Game by design was really good, one may argue that it was better than Homeworld 1 during it’s initial release.
      But the storyline… bleah… gods and saving the world – that’s just too flat.
      All the politics, struggle for survival feel, deep involving storyline was gone. Pity cause HW2 got many improvements over first one from the series looking from the UI and gameplay perspective (ok, ships exploding in huge numbers and negligible survivability of frigates were gameplay big flaws but still… it was really well made attempt to create a balance by diversity not by duplication of sides.).

    • heretic says:

      most likely will be an existing IP, looks like all publishers are going that way recently. hopefully homeworld!

    • omicron1 says:

      If this is Homeworld 3, then it’s official: The late ’90s/early ’00s are coming back.

      Starcraft, Duke Nukem, Diablo, Age of Empires, X-Com, Deus Ex, (Homeworld?)

      All of this makes me very, very happy. For one thing, it seems to be “in vogue” to replicate the feats of ten years ago now. For another, most of these are PC-centric or even PC-exclusive titles, which makes me happy inside.

      On the other hand, my budget can only take so much abuse before it fails completely…

    • Mayjori says:

      Homeworld 2 +Complex mod is the most satisfying gaming I’ve done for at least a couple of years. The mod is constantly being improved too, seriously, its AWESOME!

      I’d be worried they would dumb it down if they did create a Homeworld 3 :/

  2. Meat Circus says:

    Dawn of War III would be new.

  3. RadioactiveMan says:

    “As far as I understand it the Homeworld franchise is entombed somewhere deep in the bowls of ActiBlizzard”.

    Really?! I did not know this. I am now EXCEPTIONALLY curious about the upcoming Blizzard project code-named Titan…

    • RadioactiveMan says:

      oh well. Titan will be something new then maybe. New can be good too, right?

    • pingualot says:

      Titan will be a MMORPG so its a tenuous link with Homeworld.

    • ulix says:

      Titan will most certainly not be a MMORPG, but rather a MMOFPS or a MMORTS (or something else that’s not an RPG).
      Blizzard wouldn’t produce a game that would be in direct competition with WOW.

    • Dances to Podcasts says:

      The only thing known for certain about Titan, which seems to have to be repeated each time it comes up, is that it’s not an existing franchise. It’s a brand new IP. It’s not “game X – the MMO” because it’s not based on any existing game/book/movie/knitting pattern. It’s completely new, imagined and built from the ground up. Capiche?

  4. GT3000 says:

    link to

    Yarp, HomeWorld it might be.

  5. Turin Turambar says:

    A few years ago (three?) in the relic fans forums they discovered that someone had secured the homeworld license, and he was the lawyer for thq/relic, so people got hyped. Of course time passed and DoW / CoH product were released, with no sign of Homeworld.

    We will say in August, i suppose.

  6. zergrush says:

    Relic has grown to be my favourite RTS developer with the first DoW and CoH.

    I’d like it to be either a new IP or a Warhammer Fantasy RTS. If it’s Company of Heroes related I hope it’s as innovative as the first one was.

    • Commisar says:

      either or would be nice, although the last Warhammer Fantasy RTS, mark of Chaos, was good, but it didn’t sell well. It was made by Namco games

    • DarkFenix says:

      Didn’t sell well with good reason too, it was shite.

  7. SpinalJack says:

    Please let it be Homeworld and please let it be as good as Homeworld: Cataclysm

    • Kdansky says:

      They should call it Burning Crusade, just to mess with us.

      Homeworld 3 would be a sequel I would actually look forward to.

      But it’s going to be Early Mid Day of War or Some Other Company of Heroes.

  8. WMain00 says:

    Please for the love of god let it be Homeworld 3.

  9. Gap Gen says:

    Cat Herd 4000, a strategy game where you have to herd cats into an enclosure, and all the while avoiding beams of sunlight, balls of twine and string. Features destructible terrain, ragdoll corpses and tuna.

    • Jad says:

      I would play this game.

    • squareking says:

      I know for a fact that cats love beams of sunlight. This game will be terrible.

    • Gap Gen says:

      Perhaps you could charge up your cats using sunbeams and jangly things, with bonuses for achieving maximum cat.

  10. Choca says:

    Those bastards, I’m officially excited.

  11. Bluebreaker says:

    Hope its not homeworld. Don’t want the current relic to destroy that saga.

    • Lord_Mordja says:


    • ulix says:

      The current Relic would only make it so much more awesome.
      At least if they keep some of the base-building.

    • Lord_Mordja says:

      Wait, but Homeworld has never had base building…

    • Ovno says:

      But removal of base building was one of the best things they ever did.

      I mean what battle ever starts with hang on I just need to build a base….

    • DarkFenix says:

      “I mean what battle ever starts with hang on I just need to build a base….”
      The fun ones, y’know, the ones before DoW2. Relic have destroyed two franchises now, their third franchise probably only still intact because it’s not had a sequel yet. I’m hoping for the epic scale 40k game to give me back the fun DoW1 had.

  12. pakoito says:

    Warhammer Fantasy RTS. Would buy…

    • nofing says:

      That would be great, since we can’t expect a Warcraft 4 within the next decade…

    • RadioactiveMan says:

      You mean like Shadow of the Horned Rat? Loved that game, but way too hard!

    • psycho7005 says:

      I came on this only to comment this exact same thing. DoW engine, Fantasy setting = yes please. Used to love the tabletop game and shadow of the horned rat wasn’t very good in my opinion.

  13. ImperialCreed says:

    Homeworld would be nice, but I hope desperately that Relic have decided to go and do “SupCom 40k”. As in, the Epic style 40k that Jim mentions.

    It could only be glorious.

    • CalleX says:

      It would truly be… EPIC!

      No really this would be the greatest news ever if it had squads of infantry X 100 and tank squadrons and TITANS :)

    • Bhazor says:

      A Relic made Total War: Warhammer 40K is the kind of thing dreams are made of.

  14. Jad says:

    I want either 1) Homeworld 3 or 2) New IP. Generally I’m a proponent of new IPs over sequels, but Homeworld was unique enough and it’s been long enough that a 3D space RTS would be almost new at this point.

  15. Turin Turambar says:

    In the other hand…
    link to

  16. Mike says:

    Company of Heroes 2 would be rather nice. Add in all they’ve learnt from DoW, new engine, yes please.

  17. westyfield says:

    Please dear goodness not another Company of Heroes game.

    • Zyrxil says:

      Another? There was only one game and two standalone expansions, which is approximately 1/4 of what Dawn of War has. I loved CoH campaigns a lot more than any DoW campaign.

    • westyfield says:

      ‘Another’ as in ‘an additional one’ as in ‘in addition to the one plus expansions plus temporary free-to-play version that already exist/have existed’.
      As in, I’d rather not play another Company of Heroes game when there is an infinite variety of different games that could be made.
      Edit: Egh, sorry, that came off really snarky. I’ve never played Homeworld and the idea of a space RTS excites me – I loved Sins of a Solar Empire – whereas the idea of a WW2 game makes me sigh a bit.

    • Cinek says:

      the idea of a space RTS excites me – I loved Sins of a Solar Empire” – woh, than you should give HW a try. It’s like… SoSE only one dimension more deep, fun, involving and amazing game! :) ;)

    • Sassenach says:

      I think the Company of Heroes and Dawn of War games are sufficiently similar that having a sequel of each would be somewhat redundant in terms of gameplay. I think it would be of greater interest to see what else Relic can concoct. I have confidence that they would be able to provide something original of interest.

  18. Mr Chug says:

    August 2011 seems far too far away to be announcing that they’ll be announcing something. I’m going to make an equally meaningless prediction that it’ll be a new IP with less shootybangs, since they probably want to try something different. We’re about due a new RTS set in the ancient era if you ask me.

  19. Heliocentric says:

    I want a homeworld game, but since they can use the 40k license they can make a Battlefleet Gothic game. The story can be a dynamic campaign following a Tyranid Hive fleet who go about fighting everything, and then eating everything down to bare rocks. Just like you would harvest everything in homeworld.

    • mcnostril says:


      Homeworld style battlefleet gothic.
      Oh god.

      An idea so awesome it will never be made.

    • Commisar says:

      Argh, and I have to wait until August to find out if that is true!!!!

    • Zephro says:

      No it’d be rubbish as it would be battlefleet gothic with home ships that build units for you during battles and ships that can turn on the head of a pin. BFG is basically an age of sail style board game as the ships all have momentum, poor turning arcs and fire broadsides at one another. I think Empire TW has shown us that noone has the balls to actually make a game which represents that, instead everything will rotate on the spot and be naff.

  20. Kelpie says:

    Mmmm seems like many here want a worthy successor to Homeworld, while others love the Dawn of War games and 40k in general.
    Homeworld + Warhammer 40k = Battlefleet Gothic!
    There everyone’s happy :)

    Edit: Beat me to it Helio :)

    • Heliocentric says:

      A silver in the best-idea-ever olympics is still great.

  21. Njordsk says:


    (caps for excitement)

  22. Neut says:

    Impossible Creatures 2! Make it happen Relic!

    • GT3000 says:


      Impossible Creatures had such potential. FLYING SCORPANTS GO!

    • Jason Attard says:

      Impossible Creatures 2 would be awesome! Oh no, wait a second, that game was kind of rubbish…

      Warhammer 40K Battlefleet Gothic in some updated version of the Homeworld engine?

      Nah, I think I’ll just get on the Homeworld 3 bus instead.

  23. tikey says:

    I’m another one for the “We want Homeworld 3” crowd.

  24. Andrew Dunn says:

    Homeworld 3 or Company of Heroes 2 would both be amazing. As long as they don’t model CoH2 after CoH: Online, because it was crap.

  25. Zephro says:

    They should make a 40K/Epic game based on the mechanics and difficulty of Combat Mission.

    Something with actual pitched battles rather than any base building or resource/location control. I’m such a dreamer.

    • Quine says:

      I’d love to see a tactical miniature manfights game that let/made you pick your units before the fight began.

      All this runtime calling down forces and stuff makes them feel a bit too disposable for me. Combat Mission was all about the loadouts and scraping a surprise victory with the last units you had.

  26. Dreamhacker says:

    How about a sci-fi game with the COH-engine? That would rock.

    • Neut says:

      Yeh, something with like, marines, in space!

    • Dougal McFrugal says:

      Marines? in Space?

      That’s just crazy talk and you know it

    • Armitage says:


      They are ridiculing you because Relic has already done that.

    • liqourish says:

      Are you sure?
      I’ve never heard of any such things.

    • ulix says:

      Maybe they could even add Aliens to the mix. How groundbreaking would that be?

      If it’d use an existing SciFi-license it would make it so much more awesome.

    • Koozer says:

      They could get rid of the base-building somehow, it doesn’t make sense anyway and lets you focus on the battle more too.

  27. Dominus says:


  28. tomnullpointer says:

    Please please let it be homeworld!
    The talk of outcast and sacrifice would make me put homeworld in the same pot. Games of slightly off-centre genre twists but with unique vision that has really not been bettered.

  29. Ginger Yellow says:

    My money is on CoH 2, which would be awesome. It fits with their comments after CoH:O was pulled. But if it’s Homeworld 3, that would arguably be even better.

  30. Coxswain says:

    Personally, I’m hoping for BATTLEFLEET GOTHIC done in the style of homeworld.

  31. coldvvvave says:

    Homeworld 3 is going to be FPS.

    • MisterT says:

      If that meant you were playing as a space-based marine trying to capture ships in the middle of huge battles, then I think that could be a winner, especially if there were fighter sections.

      Make it semi-open in terms of how you capture them, in that you chose the point where your shuttle can breach the hull, and you fight through what looks like a functional ship on the inside, securing engine room, bridge, main computer system, comms, etc.

    • Cinek says:

      yep, there was once a dispute on how to make a good Homeworld FPS.
      Step one: Forget you’ve seen Dead Space and the Homeworld: Cataclysm. ;)
      Step two: Allow 3D combat – meaning: Let us fight in no-gravity environments and make an AI that would do it (kinda a breakthrough for the FPS)
      Step three: No stupid aliens. But use the HW techs, so: lots of kinetic guns and give Vaygr their pulsed beam.
      Step four: Give freedom of commanding the squad (using system similar to RepCommando though with bit more tactics) and let player choose the way of capturing ship, don’t create super-specific objectives like it’s in all other FPSes – linear and lack of thinking == boring.
      Step five – allow player to control the approach to the ship and picking the point where to breach the hull.
      Step six: Profit from creating most awesome FPS ever! :D :D :D ;)

  32. Dougal McFrugal says:

    Homeworld would be awesome, however i’m not convinced they could make it homeworldy enough, get the right atmos etc. Gothic on the other hand hasnt been done so could be genius.

    Am also enjoying the concept of epic 40k RTS BUT come ON its been AGES since we’ve had a decent space RTS

    i’ll stop whining now

  33. Pijama says:

    Homeworld I think it’s a no-go. Perhaps something new in the 40K universe?

    I wouldn’t mind an original IP again though. :)

  34. liquidsoap89 says:

    A Warhammer Classic with Tomb Kings and I’m sold. For once maybe they could shy away from the ridiculously common Empire/Chaos/elves/orks, space marine/chaos/eldar/ork moulds.

    I WANNA SEE TOMB KINGS AND LIZARDMEN! Or an expansion to DOW II with Tau… That would suffice.

  35. rubberpants says:

    The only thing we can be sure of is that it’s a sequel to something in a existing genre. Large game companies and movie studios don’t do creative risk taking. Hopefully they’ll add a new game mechanic or a heavy-handed “social online community subscription” kludge in there somewhere. Yes, I’ve given up on hope and love.

  36. SwiftRanger says:

    It’s got to be a Saints Row RTS, no doubt.

  37. Navagon says:

    Relic are just one of those so called triple A developers who still manage to get me interested in a title just because they’re behind it. Looking forward to finding out what this is.

  38. bascule42 says:

    Something new? ha haaa ha haaa haa haa *cough*. Maybe…

  39. Cinek says:

    If it’s gonna be Homeworld 3 I’m gonna sell my kidney and buy 20 packs of collector’s edition just to wallpaper my room with pure awesomeness!!!!

    Relic, god damn it, how can you not release the HW3 after THQ buying the rights to series?! I want to play it before the end of world, which means: before end of next year, or death in flames gonna seriously sux… after going through whole game though I’ll be ready to face it in a glory a pure happiness!

  40. Lord_Mordja says:

    Guys, guys, it’s clearly their long awaited Forestry Simulator. They’ve been working on it for so long and now it will finally see the light of day.

  41. Jake says:

    An epic scale 40k strategy game would be great, it’s been ages since Final Liberation. I was always a bit disappointed that Dawn of War II was at a skirmish scale, I’d like to see a few titans stomping around.
    But then a new Company of Heroes would also be amazing, even if the original still somehow doesn’t seem very dated.

    I also wonder if a Warhammer Fantasy skirmish game – in the DoWII mould – could work. Doing away with units of infantry and having gangs or bands of heroes.

  42. Kevin says:

    I seem to recall from a Shacknews interview where the interviewee told Jeff Lydell that he had some questions from the community, to which Lydell asked:

    “You don’t have a question about Homeworld 3 in there, do you?”

    “Well actually, yes.”

    “Yeah, we’re still not making it.”

    Goddamn you, Relic.

    Source: link to

  43. Armitage says:

    It should be Homeworld 3 with Taiidan, Hiigaran, and Beast as playable races. Make sure that the multiplayer server browser doesn’t suck. Include a BlackOps style theater mode so we can record and post “Lets Plays” and commentaries to YouTube.

    Any chance this will happen? No. Am I still hopeful? Yes!

  44. Teddy Leach says:

    Do you know what I’d like? A remake of Chaos Gate. But that’ll never happen…

  45. Rath says:

    Is it possible that at some point in the future they could do a sort of three-tiered RTS based on WH40K, the first tier being planet based action on the order of Epic 40K, the second tier being starship combat as per Battlefleet Gothic, and the third tier being inter-ship boarding like Space Hulk, on the same scale as current Dawn Of War? With that kind of scale, they could do a complete re-telling of the Horus Heresy.

    Imagine the kind of co-op play you could get if those missions were happing at the same time. “Dude, seriously, quit the friendly fire with the orbital bombardment already!”

  46. Mr_Hands says:

    Everything I’m about to say has already been said, but:

    I’d like to see a 4X or large-scale WH40k game. That would make me super happy.

    Given the recent closure of COHO, though, you’d think they’d want to re-establish traction for the CoH brand, yeah? I mean, that game still holds a warm place in most peoples’ hearts. Plus it sold well, I think.

  47. PearlChoco says:

    I’d be very happy with a spiritual sequel to Dark Omen.

  48. Diziet Sma says:

    i don’t care whether it’s something new or another Homeworld (although new homeworld would edge it). It’s a new Relic game! YAY!

  49. Jimbo says:

    My money says non-WW2 CoH. Could follow the FPS genre and go modern?

  50. Miker says:

    From Relic’s Facebook:

    “Rumor has it we’re announcing a new RTS game in August. What could it be? Maybe..

    – 100 Years War (English vs. French)
    – Man vs. Machines
    – Plants vs. Frankensteins
    – The People vs. Larry Flint
    – Man vs. Animals
    – Rappers vs. Robots
    – Man vs. Everytype of Animal but Bees
    – Sharks vs. Dolphins
    – Jocks vs. Nerds
    – Chuck Norris vs. Chuck Norris
    – Man vs. Food
    – Sharks vs. Bees
    – Jocks vs. Man”

    Good to see they have a sense of humor :)

    • liqourish says:

      Chuck Norris vs Chuck Norris would be impossible balance, though…
      can’t really see the multiplayer working.

      So, I’ll hold out for Sharks vs Bees.

    • Jake says:

      Hmm, I wonder if SyFy have thought of Mega Shark vs Giant Bees yet. Only a matter of time I expect.