Super Meat Boy Sells 12 Copies On D2D?

He hasn't even got enough fingers to count to 12. Unlike me.
Update: Team Meat are now claiming this was only a misinterpreted joke and there’s no truth to the reported number.

Holy… We’ve been pointed in the direction of DarkZero’s pretty fascinating chat with Super Meat Boy creators Tommy Refenes and Edmund McMillen, and amongst all manner of rumination on stuff like the importance of Steam sales and why they’re not worried about piracy, they let slip a little but apparently made-up number.

That number is 12. Again, that number was apparently a made-up joke. And what it relates to doesn’t relate to is how many copies of Super Meat Boy they sold on Direct2Drive, according to their last statement from the download service. In fairness, it’s not clear whether they’re talking about all-time or just recently (it could well be a monthly rather than aggregate statement he’s talking about).

Here’s how it the joke went:

Refenes: Direct2Drive, I did get our statement today. Did you get that,Ed?

McMillen: I don’t read ‘em. [Laughs]

Refenes: Did you see how many copies we sold?

McMillen: How many?

Refenes: We sold 12.

McMillen & Refenes: [hysterical laughter]

You can hear it for yourself at about 1hr9m into the DarkZero podcast.

We’ve contacted Direct2Drive and Team Meat for comment and clarification – will update as and when we hear back.

It’s worth adding that Team Meat aren’t aggrieved by how much of the download market Steam seems to own: “The reason Valve has the monopoly and the reason that’s okay is a) they know what they’re doing and b) out of all the people we’ve dealt with, Steam is the most open and the quickest to respond. Working with Valve isn’t like working with Microsoft, it’s like working with another part of a team in a way.”

I’ll also throw in some of their comments about piracy, because you know:

“Our game was hugely pirated – we don’t fucking care. If there are let’s say 200,000 copies of SMB that are getting passed around for free, that’s 200,000 people who are playing th game. If they like this game there’s a really high probabability of their friends coming around and seeing it or them posting about it on their blogs. And it’s not cool to go round and say I really like this game that I stole, so they’re not going to say that. So it’s going to come around to sales.”

Thanks for the tip, Adam C.


  1. ZIGS says:

    Am I the only one that thinks of Super Mario Bros every time I read SMB?

  2. Ondrej says:

    I hope the same thing will happen with Battlefield 3 and EAs Origin. Twelve copies.

    • bookwormat says:

      I hope it sells well.

    • CalleX says:

      I think he meant to say “Modern Warfare” as hating on the battlefield series is just dumb.

    • G915 says:

      I don’t think he’s hating on Battlefield, I’m pretty sure that he’s annoyed by the Steam vs Origin thing. And tbh, I’m on the same boat.

    • coldvvvave says:

      Buy retail?

    • Mechorpheus says:

      Feed some more money in to the bucket labeled ‘Amazon’.

    • rocketman71 says:

      Hating the battlefield series is not dumb, dumb is how DICE is fucking it up more and more with each sequel.

    • DrGonzo says:

      Battlefield 3 is the sequel to Battlefield 2. If you’re talking about Bad Company there is a reason it has a subtitle and is a spin off.

  3. Drake Sigar says:

    Pirates have no friends.

    • Tom De Roeck says:


    • BooleanBob says:

      They prefer to keep ARRRcquaintances.


    • Handsome Dead says:

      i find it funny that a man who has a blog with the article “Five Epic Pairs of Blogspot Breasts” thinks he knows anything about anyone having friends.

    • ArcaneSaint says:

      um, I have friends. So your statement seems to be false, sorry. But don’t worry, I only pirate the games that have so much DRM and anti-piracy measures you can’t play the legit version. It’s for the irony mostly, seeing all those people who bought it complain they can’t play it, while all the pirates are enjoying their games. I’m not going to name any specific companies but you know who I’m talking about.

    • Drake Sigar says:

      Dead – It’s a character. Nobody writes a title like ‘Dragon Age 2 Sucks’ and expects to be taken utterly seriously or claims to hate women and children on a regular basis. Well, some people do, but they all live in Texas. If you’d bothered to do more than gloss over a few titles and select the easiest target whilst stroking your rapidly growing erection, you’d see just how big an imbecile you really are.

    • Handsome Dead says:

      check me i’m being ironic on the internet nobody has ever done this before

    • thristhart says:

      Now now, we needn’t devolve into personal attacks, either of you.

      Go sit in separate corners and think about what you’ve done.

    • Gundrea says:

      Point goes to Dead.

    • Drake Sigar says:

      thristhart – *Sulk* I was about to unleash my masterful Hitler comparison.

    • aircool says:

      Where’s the link to the tits?

    • max pain says:

      That blog IS weird.

    • Acorino says:

      Well, it’s a hipster blog. What do you expect?

    • DrGonzo says:

      Doesn’t it have to have a point to be ironic? Otherwise you’re just being what you are mocking and claiming you don’t mean it. Bit like the BNP are to the Nazis.

    • Acorino says:

      No, hipsters don’t have a point. That’s the point!

    • Ignorant Texan says:

      ….or claims to hate poor women and children of color on a regular basis. Well, some people do, but they all live in Texas.(Italics added).

      Drake, there, I fixed it for you. You forgot to mention the puppy barbeques that are quite popular in these parts.

      Am I correct in assuming that you are from Indian Territory?

  4. Scatterbrainpaul says:

    I had a look at D2D the other day, it does have some good offers on it. Had Civ 5 for £10, still haven’t bought anything off it though

    The only experience i’ve had with D2D was when 3 mates and I were trying to play borderlands 4 player co-op, 3 of us had bought the game from steam, and 1 from D2D. The guy who had bought it from D2D couldn’t play with us because his version hadn’t been patched to the latest version, even though the version had been out for 2 months

    • Calneon says:

      Doesn’t D2D give you an installer and let you manage the rest from there? Couldn’t he have patched it manually?

    • Octaeder says:

      For some reason Direct2Drive versions of games aren’t always compatible with an official patch and you’ll need to download a D2D specific one. If the developers don’t release one for whatever reason you’re pretty much screwed.

    • Snuffy the Evil says:

      D2D isn’t half bad, but you wouldn’t want to buy something like Oblivion from there- apparently the games they sell use specially engineered/encrypted/whatever executables, so stuff like the Oblivion Script Extender won’t work, which means none of the good mods will work either.

    • Hypocee says:

      Exactly. I don’t buy from D2D because I was watching during the launch of Sword of the Stars, which needed patches and got them in pretty good time…except on D2D. At least one patch took over a month from the day I could download it for my retail copy to the day the D2D users could get it for the encrypted mess they’d bought.

  5. WeeMadAndo says:

    Laziness FTW. Manually managing updates, installers etc? Nope. I’ve been messing with PC gaming since 84 or so. If something is on Steam, that’s where I’m getting it.

  6. Sinomatic says:

    I’m one of the 12. It was cheaper on D2D at the time than anywhere else.

    Though I wish I’d bought it on steam.

  7. Myros says:

    I know I used to buy an occaisional game from D2D.

    But I havent even looked at the site for over a year I think. Reasons?

    1. Well, why bother. Its just handier to have all my DL games under one launcher.

    2. The couple of times Ive tried to contact them support has been utter crap, over a week for a response which turns out to be an automated response. Then more days to get a reply from an actual human.

    3. The downloader was slow. And 3 times I eneded up with a 2+GB file that was corrupted and had to start again.

    4. Twice I had to download an entire 6GB game just to get a patched version.

    5 Steam has better sales.

  8. mejoff says:

    Has anyone else noticed that the ongoing D2D sale is utterly piss-poor compared to the Steam one just gone? I mean, like they’re not even trying!

  9. DeanLearner says:

    I think i’ve bought more copies of bejewled alone.

  10. Stuk says:

    I know I bought it when it was first released on D2D. And then I immediately regretted it when the game was updated and it didn’t appear on D2D for ages. In fact that’s when I stopped playing. Should really go an revisit it…

  11. Optimaximal says:

    I don’t agree with the last part of piracy statement.

    Back in my student days, piracy was a badge of honour for understanding BitTorrent at a time when μTorrent wasn’t around to do it all for you and everyone came to you to get stuff because Kazaa had just closed and Limewire was more viruses and dodgy porn than anything else.

    I don’t pirate stuff any more (lack of good stuff to pirate, decent Steam sales etc), but still today I find friends, work colleagues and even reputable staff of contractors I deal with casually boasting about downloading Modern Battlewar 12, Pixar’s latest unfinished masterpiece or Cheryl Cole’s latest aural regurgitation…

    • karry says:

      There are people who actually fail to understand torrent ? I’d like to see them deal with fserves ! Especially today, when all irc search engines are dead and buried.

    • jplayer01 says:

      Well, among friends, it doesn’t matter if you say you pirated it or not. I wouldn’t necessarily consider it a badge of honour, at least not where I live. It’s just … well, “yeah, I pirated it” or “nah, decided to buy it” … it’s mundane. You have to be quite the shallow and/or petty person to take pride in pirating games.

      On the other hand, when you’re writing a blog and you review a game, you won’t necessarily say that you’ve pirated a game.

    • Optimaximal says:

      @karry fail != failed. I’m talking past tense…

      Back at the start of the millennium, you either had to run the original BT client or something like BitTornado (I think it was called Shadows Client or something then). Nothing was available with a GUI that was as nice to use as μTorrent ended up (apart from some Java thing whose name escapes me) and lots of manual hacking was needed to get it working with most routers.

      Basically, it was relatively easy, but still beyond most (or at least was amongst my peer group, who were still trying to get Kazaa, WinMX and all the other proprietary clients working).

    • tstapp1026 says:

      in my circle the whole pirating bit has taken on a bit of a different purpose. We all agree that paying for a game that we love is mandatory, BUT the DRM on said games tends to make us hunt torrents and pirated versions post purchase. Buy, Fry, DL, and Burn.

  12. AbsoluteDestiny says:

    Yeah, we get slim pickins for Fate of the World from them too. Good to see we’re not the only ones :)

    • mejoff says:

      D2D just don’t promote indie/interesting titles at all. Steam make a point of doing so.

  13. djtim says:

    “And it’s not cool to go round and say I really like this game that I stole, so they’re not going to say that.”

    I think that’s the key right there, while every single DRM ever released has failed to stop piracy it is seems to be somewhat of a cultural change, a shift in perception against not paying for a game, that could possibly reduce PC infringement rates.

    With Steam offering crazy sale prices all the time, the absolute glut of readily/easily available games and also Indie game developers being at the forefront of the PC scene – you really do seem like a bit of a cheap git if you’re ripping off any game. Not really something to be proud of (unlike – for example – having over 900 games on Steam like some crazy person posted on the Steam Summer Sale blog a week or so ago).

    • Tams80 says:

      DRM has it’s place. Before a game is launched and perhaps on launch day; DRM can help prevent a game being spoilt. Afterwards, say maybe a week after though, there is little point in it. Mainly because any new DRM has been cracked.

  14. Avish says:

    I tried buying a game from D2D a few times but never succeeded.
    A few times it told me on checkout that the game is not available in my region(was not mentioned until than), and when I finally managed to find something that is available it asked for my phone number, for verification, and than gave me an error….

    I understood that it’s an issue with many non-us/uk customers and can be easily solved with opening a ticket in customer support, which can take a few days.

    I never bothered with D2D again…

    • airtekh says:

      I’ve bought of D2D before, but it’s Gamersgate that I’ve had problems with. Their checkout system didn’t like the fact that I live in an area that doesn’t have a postcode, and wouldn’t let me purchase.

      So I said ‘screw that’ and took my business elsewhere.

    • Avish says:

      Yesterday I bought “Splinter cell: Conviction” from Gamersgate without any issues or drawbacks.

      I guess nobody’s perfect…

    • tstapp1026 says:

      Wait…what? Steam is not perfect?! Oooooooo… thems fight’n words!

    • Avish says:

      I meant D2D is not perfect.

      I will never say such a thing about Steam. NEVER!

  15. purplechair says:

    I’d just like to add that if anyone is having difficult listening to the podcast due to the DarkZero site collapsing under this sudden strain, it’s available on iTunes and that should be stable like a horse.

  16. skinlo says:

    Surely theres no point in getting a comment from them really? All they can say is ‘yes, they sold 12’.

    • Batolemaeus says:

      Without context, the number is meaningless. So yes, there’s plenty to comment on, like what the number actually represents. Total sales? This week? Day? Month?

    • skinlo says:

      Then I imagine it would be easier to talk to the Super Meat Boy team than Direct2Drive. I’m sure they know what unit of time it represents.

  17. lethu says:

    Monkeys, I tell you.

  18. Derppy says:

    I think I’m in love with Team Meat.

    First of all, Super Meat Boy is an awesome game, I haven’t played recent AAA-titles even nearly as much and it was so cheap I almost feel bad for playing such an awesome game while paying so little.

    They agree that Steam has a monopoly, but for now it’s such a great DDP that it doesn’t matter. They also don’t care about the piracy, so honest customers don’t need to deal with all kinds of stupid anti-piracy stuff.

    We need more developers like them.

  19. Zogtee says:

    Until we have something to compare it with, 12 is just a number, really.

    • Carra says:

      Good point. Did they sell 13 on steam? Or 1300?

    • johnpeat says:

      We have no data – I can tell you that Terraria sold over 200,000 copies in it’s first couple of weeks on Steam tho – and it maintains a place in the top 10 sales constantly (which it tends to share with the latest releases and special offers – e.g. few other games can manage it’s sales).

  20. europeon says:

    I like using steam its a good service, but unfortunately i live in the eurozone and as a result get charged 40-60% more than on any other sites for most games. Its almost insulting when i can go to game or game stop and see even some of steams sale prices beaten by their normal prices. I still have a lot of steam games for steam exclusives or when the sale prices go low enough, but it still seems pretty ridiculous. I don’t know how it makes sense, the top selling steam games are often the ones with the biggest discount, it would seem to me that they should be losing out on sales from such a large market. Anyway this usually means that i buy from amazon or gamersgate first, and on rarer occasions from D2D, GOG and impulse.

    i know this is an old problem and some of you maybe tired of hearing it, but i’d really like to know why they persist in pegging euro prices to the dollar. Are consumers in the eurozone really that dumb or apathetic that they’d pay so much more?

  21. johnpeat says:

    I’d like to hope that it’s because people still think it’s part of the Murdoch Empire of “simply how low can you get” – it needs a relaunch to get over that for sure

    “Welcome to our “We’re not part of News International Anymore” Sale – nothing is cheaper but WE’RE NOT PART OF THAT ORGANISATION OF BASTARDS ANYMORE” :)

  22. c-Row says:

    What do they complain about? That’s still more games than I have ever sold.

    • johnpeat says:

      Is ‘1’ still more??

      ‘1’ is more than I’ve ever sold because working on mobiles, ‘selling’ is such a dated idea *coughs*

    • barichnikov says:

      Maybe their goal wasn’t to outsell you and uh…. make a living out of it :D

    • c-Row says:

      We are just working for the higher purpose.

  23. CMaster says:

    I tried to buy from Direct2Drive once. They asked for my phone number, then said they couldn’t call it and refused to let me buy anything. I couldn’t really be fussed with going through customer support as I just wanted a game then and there, so I went and paid £1 of Steam Tax.

    But yeah, we’ve known for a while that D2D actually sells very, very little. They had some kind of “every x thousandth (or maybe even hundredth) sale wins something and gave away very few of the prizes. Really, as far as I can tell, digital downloads, despite having lots of outlets, only sell in numbers worth mentioning through Steam, direct from some developers (Blizzard especially, but also other MMOs and the like), GoG, and maybe EA Store and Gamersgate. All the others seem to be very, very small fry – including D2D and Impulse.

    • johnpeat says:

      @CMaster how has you ‘known’ this? The sites are very coy about sales but D2D and Impulse are generally considered biggest after Steam with GoG/Gamersgate and the rest following along.

    • CMaster says:

      Like I said, the idea that D2D sell poorly was based on a promotion they ran, which suggested their sales were pretty sluggish. And I believe it was NPD (of questionable merit of course) who reckoned that Impulse weren’t even worth mentioning (although this was likely based on pure US data, but then I’d expect Impulse to do better in the US than elsewhere anyway). Hmm, here it is although that suggests that D2D is the second biggest. Which either means that Steam sells almost everything in the DD marketplace, or the two datapoints I am working from contradict (I’d lean towards the second), and probably retract my earlier statement (not that I have much faith in NPD’s data mind)

      Without the DD marketplaces giving us sales numbers, we’ll never know for sure. Of course, you can ask developers and publishers and they might tell you something – but that only lets you know what works for them, not which are more successful overall.

  24. Olero says:

    It must be cucumber time, eh?

  25. Teronfel says:

    I bet they sold 13

  26. Corrupt_Tiki says:

    And thanks to RPS’ first initial publication of the FAKE story SMB’s shares plumet, and now the devs are homeless and hungry, with the better looking ones forced to sell themselves on the streets of Glasgow.


  27. Unaco says:

    I just had a look… SMB is actually cheaper on D2D than it is on this STEAM thing (~£9 compared to £12). Also, I hear this STEAM thing forces you to have a client running behind the game. D2D doesn’t seem to do that, just a download manager/installer. I’m sure the people who bought it on D2D had their reasons… good or bad. And, I’m sure whoever these chasps are that they wouldn’t begrudge the people who paid money, for their game, from a download service other than this STEAM thing.

  28. VelvetFistIronGlove says:

    Please, don’t let RPS become a rumour mill. There are more than enough such sites already. I value RPS for good writing and good reporting.

  29. skinlo says:

    Hmm, seems RPS is getting twitchy fingers on the keyboard!

  30. Nick says:

    Could you not get a response from them *before* posting an article?

  31. Shiny says:

    I’m sure D2D is real happy about this joke, as Microsoft must have been when Team Meat was dumping on them earlier this year.

    It will be a rude awakening when no one wants to partner with them anymore, I am sure.

    • Thants says:

      Oh, good. The problem with game companies is that their responses AREN’T so carefully crafted to avoid offense that they’re utterly contentless. Let’s have MORE of that. This “Developers talking like actual people” thing is terrible.

  32. StingingVelvet says:

    I got it on D2D because it was DRM free. That matters to some people, myself included.

    That said I also got the Steam version when it was like $3 so that I could get all the Steam exclusive features.

  33. Dhatz says:

    just play Reimagine the Game and it has awesome parody of this, with gravitational anomalies and achievements.