Apple Revolution, DX:HR Mac Port Inbound

But will the colour scheme change to silver and pale blue?

Attention, owners of expensive, hard-to-upgrade aluminium PCs: Square-Enix have just sent word that Deux Ex: Human Revolution is going to be getting a Mac release. It’s due out in “Winter 2011/12”, and London based Feral Interactive are going to be responsible for it. They tackled the Mac ports of the likes of BioShock, Borderlands, Rome: Total War, LEGO Star Wars & Tomb Raider: Anniversary, so I guess they know the ropes. Has anyone played any of their ports?

Pricing, system requirements and release date for DXHROSX fill be announced “later this year”, but hopefully S-E won’t force two-system or Bootcamping customers to rebuy the game just to access it on another platform, and they go for a dual release via Steamplay. Next thing I’d like to hear about is mod tools, please.

Wot John thinks is here, and RPS verdict here.


  1. Mike says:


    The Lego ports were fine, but nowhere near as technically demanding as DXHR I imagine.

  2. MrThingy says:

    As long as it’s not the same folks who did the Civilization V mac port which turns my Macbook into a very fashionable cooking plate for bacon and eggs after about 2 minutes.

    • Tams80 says:

      Isn’t that what it is normally?


    • Duke Nasty VI says:

      Yeah, Civilization V on OSX is horrible. Aspyr are the ones responsible for that port.

    • metalangel says:

      All MacBooks do that when you play games on ’em… whether it’s ArmA2 or Frozen Synapse or WURM.

      Notice that when you stop playing, it cools back down within a minute or so.

    • PoLLeNSKi says:

      It’s because the fans are set to be as quiet as possible, you can override them using SMCfancontrol – I highly recommend that program and there’s a similar program you can use if you’re running Windows via bootcamp called Macfan.

      I toasted an HD from too much gaming in Windows before I found out about these programs, now I just turn my fans up to about 50% before an average gaming session or upto 100% if I’m overclocking my GPU for some more stressful 3D stuff (running Deus Ex:HR on my ATI X1600 f.e.)

    • FunkyBadger3 says:

      Get a proper computer.

    • Richard Beer says:

      Most Macs are basically laptops (except the Mac Pros), so that’s a better comparison to make. I have a shiny iMac at home (despite being a hardcore PC Gamer since the mid-90s) and it contains a mobile gfx card rather than a big desktop one. It’s totally silent, which is quite a revelation after the water-cooled aircraft carrier I had until recently.

      That’s why they get so hot. My Dell laptop at work does much the same thing.

    • PoLLeNSKi says:

      It’s NOT to do with the type of GPU – in fact the mobile GPU’s are designed to run with less heat output because there’s less ventilation inside a laptop/mac than there is in a tower based computer.

      The reason mac’s get obsenely hot is because the fans are set to do the minimal amount of effort so they stay nice and quiet – seriously, get SMC and see what percentage your fans are running at, it’ll be about 30% most of the time, you can turn that up and make a bit more noise but have a cooler computer (which helps the chips last longer and improves their performace as heat increases the electrical resistance inside them……).

      For the same reason, the chips are generally underclocked inside mac’s so they produce less heat – upping the fan power means you can get the chips running at the same speed that they’re designed for (or higher).

    • vitaminTcomplex says:

      “FunkyBadger3 says: Get a proper computer.”

      The computer I’m posting from has a 2.2ghz i7 dual core, 8gb of DDR3, 256gb SSD, Radeon 6000-series with 1gb DDR5, and it runs Windows 7. Is this a proper computer? And is it a Mac or a PC?

    • Jerykk says:

      “The computer I’m posting from has a 2.2ghz i7 dual core, 8gb of DDR3, 256gb SSD, Radeon 6000-series with 1gb DDR5, and it runs Windows 7. Is this a proper computer? And is it a Mac or a PC?”

      You’ll need to be more specific because “6000-series” is extremely vague. Is it the 6990? If you wanted to, could you switch to the Nvidia GTX 590? If the answer to both is no, then you are using a Mac.

    • jrodman says:

      Platform bigotry is one of the most common, if least unsightly, common ugly characteristics of gamers.

      Grow up, folks.

    • foop says:

      That was Aspyr, and every time I’ve tried a Mac port by them it’s been awful.

      Edit: And on the subject of OS/Platform dick-waving I’m sitting in front of an 8 core Mac Pro, logged into:

      – A Windows VM,
      – A bog-standard 8-core box running Linux, and,
      – A 128 core machine with 2TB of shared (well, NUMA) memory running Linux.

      And I hate them all equally. I hereby declare than unless you can beat that you have to stop the pointless whining about Macs and PCs.

    • NateN34 says:


      Since when did a server cluster become a home computer?

    • jrodman says:

      @NateN34, you seem confused. Any home computer can be a server. It’s not really an exclusive category of machine. Meanwhile a 128core NUMA box is probably more for compute than serving.

      Also, the above conversation was more about pointless bile over platform-not-mine rather than anything about home computers. (Of which the 8core mac and 8core linux could easily be such.)

  3. CMaster says:

    As a Steamworks title, they’d be right bastards if they didn’t do Steamplay.

    Modding tools would be lovely (especially if the console-RAM restrictions were just level budgets adhered to, rather than hard-coded), but considering how encrypted the game files are meant to be, not holding out too much hope.

    • Cryotek says:

      ENB Series, the guy who did some of the crazy GTA IV mods, is already redoing the lighting/shadowing in the game. No mod tools doesn’t always stop modding :D

    • KenTWOu says:

      He also did speed/cache implant for fixing stuttering. That’s awesome!

    • CMaster says:

      Yes, but good mod tools are the difference between some settings tweakers and hacked renderers and complete fan-made campaigns and dramatic gameplay overhauls.

  4. mbp says:

    But …. aren’t people who use Apple product too cool (read technologically challenged) to play video games?

    • nuh uh no way says:


    • po says:


      It’s not like you can’t just install Windows on any modern Mac. In fact my 2 year old MBP doesn’t even have OSX installed on it any more, because by getting rid of that I’ve got more disk space for games (and a wider range of games too).

    • WPUN says:

      No, it’s just that nothing can come close to “Puzzle”.

    • The Colonel says:

      So… you paid four times over the odds for hardware and removed the only thing that possibly even justifies that price?

    • JFS says:

      He still has that backlit apple on the back. I swear, those things are the only thing I envy Mac users for. If only every laptop company included backlit logos on their machines. In my dream world, you can even chose what sort of icon you want. I’d go with a neon flamingo. Backlit.

    • Gnoupi says:

      @JFS – I think there’s a firm for that.

    • Magnetude says:

      By ruddy heck, Win7 does look rather nice on a MacBook Pro doesn’t it (I have a virtual machine for checking how much IE7 is going to fuck everything up for me). I hope you can still have the multitouch gestures though, so you haven’t totally removed the point of buying one.

    • Eagle0600 says:

      Looks like you aren’t the only one thinking that, because my laptop has a glowing ‘ASUS’ on the back. Also, why buy a mac just to put another operating system on it? I just don’t see the point.

    • c-Row says:

      @mbp: The early 2000’s just called – they want their antiquated sentiments back.

    • Magnetude says:

      There were a lot of antique sentiment dealers back then.

    • Gnoupi says:

      @c-Row: They did? Did you warn them?

    • c-Row says:

      @Gnoupi: Oh Snap! I shall call them back immediately!

  5. juandemarco says:

    This is indeed a good thing, maybe I’ll be able to go on a second playthrough without having to reboot in order to play. I just hope that one day we’ll see more Day One multiplatform releases…

  6. Spielo says:

    Ooh, great news! I’ll be much more inclined to give it a go if I don’t have to boot into Windows to play it.

    Yes, I’m lazy.

  7. Gnoupi says:

    Sarif Industries, Apple…
    L.I.M.B clinics, Apple stores…

    Oh my goodness, I have the vision of an augmented future led by Apple. And it all makes perfect sense!

    The expensive devices which apparently give people an advantage over the rest of people without. Devices which provide them with augmented view, gps, extra information on all topics.

    Augmentations to unlock functionalities on the existing hardware, which you can buy in specialized stores.

    These people have social advantages on others, and others are rejected by an increasing amount of “converted”.

    If an augmented future is incoming, I honestly don’t see how Apple wouldn’t be a huge part of it. It just matches.

    • ananachaphobiac says:

      Does this mean that people will be walking around with giant blue apples on their back?


    • povu says:

      Get your Applementations today!

    • Cunthulu says:

      Ugh… I’m cringing at the thought of aug stores.

  8. Alexander Norris says:

    So will they be removing the option to side with anyone except Purity First in order to better represent Apple’s vested interest in platform control?

  9. Lagwolf says:

    Actually many OSX owners I know run Bootcamp (as I do) to play games. You have a PC for games & a proper stable Mac for when you need to work.

  10. smoke.tetsu says:

    Feral doesn’t do Steamplay because their financial model doesn’t allow it. So, no I can guarantee that this probably wont be on Steam and thusly not steamplay enabled.

    BTW, Feral has announced the release date window will be winter 2011-2012.

    link to

    Their mini site for the game is slated to go up in October.

    • nofing says:

      They could always change their financial model, just like what Aspyr did recently with the ports for Civ V and Duke Nukem. They haven’t done a port for a Steamworks title and that’s why we can’t know, how this will turn out.
      It says winter 2011/12, not winter 2011-2012. I hope you know what the difference between those two is.

    • smoke.tetsu says:

      Yes, I know the difference wise-ass. It was stripping out the slash for me so instead of having it say 20112012 I put a – in between.. got a problem with that? I see I could have used a / instead.. WHATEVER.

      There’s no indication of Feral following Aspyr’s footsteps either.

    • ix says:

      Uh, what’s the difference between “winter 2011/12” and “winter 2011-2012”?

    • shitflap says:


    • Matt says:

      Three characters.

  11. beloid says:

    On a side note, how well did DXHR actually sell?

    • sluttyYutty says:

      over 2 mil i believe.

    • Unaco says:

      Yeah… 2 Million in the first 2 weeks. And it hasn’t released in Japan yet (next month)… so that figure is likely to go up when it does.

    • Magnetude says:

      A mix of an FPS and a western RPG? I can’t imagine a worse combination of genres to try and sell in Japan. Although if anyone can do it, Squeenix can.

    • Cryotek says:

      That 2 million probably doesn’t even count digital distribution on PC.

    • John P says:

      A mix of an FPS and a western RPG? I can’t imagine a worse combination of genres to try and sell in Japan. Although if anyone can do it, Squeenix can.

      Emulating Metal Gear Solid gameplay and art direction will probably help them.

  12. sluttyYutty says:

    “Attention, owners of expensive, hard-to-upgrade aluminium PCs”

    haha awesome opener

    • Wisq says:

      And kinda inaccurate. There’s nothing particularly hard about upgrading a Macbook Pro, say. I did 8 GB memory upgrades to 13 different MBPs a few weeks ago, using standard laptop RAM and a normal phillips screwdriver, in about two hours.

      We’ve got some of them with SSDs for HDDs, and at least one with an SSD replacing the CD drive. Nothing particularly hard to upgrade aside from the core laptop-y bits, and that’s the same for any laptop.

      As for expensive … yes, some of them are pretty pricey, but there’s still plenty of value for it, in terms of hardware quality alone. And it’s interesting that (last I checked) Apple’s 27″ LED Cinema Display was the cheapest high-res (2560×1440) 27″ IPS display out there, with Dell’s equivalent offering being several hundred dollars more expensive.

    • Alec Meer says:

      You’re no fun.

    • Wisq says:

      Well to be honest, I did laugh at the opening like everyone else. Only difference is, it seemed like duty called to then come on the comments and dispel it. ;)

    • nofing says:

      And same goes for the MacBook Air. Yes, it’s not good for gaming, because it’s not intended for stuff like that, but you can’t say it’s expensive. Just look at Intel struggling to match the prices with their Ultrabooks.

    • othello says:

      Apple hardware isn’t magically better quality… it’s the same quality as hardware you would buy from newegg, just designed to their specification. The factories that produce apple hardware also produce hardware for Dell and other computer manufacturers. You’re paying that extra 2x for your laptop for the design and brand.

    • lasikbear says:

      @Wisq, can you do that to a MacBook Pro for 2k6? Can you change the graphics card too?

      As far as I know I can’t do much more to it, so right now its job is currently ‘second screen to put chat windows on and play music with guy’ but with a few upgrades it could totally be gunning for ‘that other one to bring on trips and stuff if I’m not already bringing work computer’.

      Edit:got that name really really wrong.

    • Bakuhatsu says:


      Some of what you’re saying is correct. However, stating that one pays 2x on an Apple laptop for design and brand is only true if one feels the quality of usage, for a lack of better words to describe it atm, is irrelevant.

      For example, when you are comparing the specifications of a laptop, such as the Newegg parts you are referring to, you are omitting the rest of what the product actually is. Such as sturdy aluminum case versus plastic parts, the quality of the display, the quality of the trackpad – in short, using other trackpads after using a Macbook or Pro makes you feel like you’ve got parkinson’s or something. And also the power cord attaches and releases easily because of the “mag-safe” magnet-thingy. Oh and also you get a solid OS that isn’t hampered by the manufacturers custom version.

      On another matter, I do hate that Apple is so crappy at supporting games, such as crappy 3D drivers, as someone mentioned earlier.

    • NateN34 says:


      Real upgrades, are GPU, CPU and motherboard upgrades.

  13. Hmm-Hmm. says:

    I was hopeful a port would come since Deus Ex was available for macs as well. Now to hoping it’ll be a decent enough port.

  14. Joe Duck says:

    Interesting, I guess somebody must be earning money selling Mac games or they would have stopped already. Seems that Gabe was right again when they launched Steam for Mac.
    It is also interesting because it makes PC gaming less dead, if that is even possible. By now it is so not dead that it could actually be seen as being less dead than the (by now very much dead) Xborx threeehundredandsixty.
    Oh well, here I am preaching to the choir again…

    • Cryotek says:

      Actually, PC gaming is booming. There’s been a huge turnaround in opinion on it over the last year. Basically, it’s been doing quite well, but because Steam etc. don’t release direct sales numbers nobody knew just how well.

      The PS3/360 are around 50 million consoles sold worldwide, and I’m guessing about half of those still work :x

      Steam, at last check, had 30 million active accounts (ones people log into regularly).

      If big AAA titles don’t sell as well on PC, I think it’s because we spread our money out a lot more between smaller titles. Also, developers make about twice as much on the PC copy of a game. So the platform is doing *very* well, in fact, which is why you see Gamestop, Gamefly, EA, etc. trying to get into the game. They are following the money.

    • Josh Brandt says:

      Valve doesn’t do anything without the numbers to support it– I would guess that they could somehow tell through the hardware survey who is running Steam on Macs by dual-booting or through VMware, and knew exactly how much of a market they’d be opening up.

    • Deston says:

      I find it interesting to keep an eye on the amount of active online users on Steam at any given time too.

      These are rough figures from memory, but back in 2009 you would generally see around 1.5 million peak online on the weekends. Then 2010 I remember seeing that peak at about 2.5 million. Then a couple of weeks back it hit 4 million and yesterday it got up to 4.2 million.

      Sure, a large percentage are just PCs with Steam running in the background from boot, but whatever way you cut it, the growth in concurrent online users there the last couple of years is quite staggering. It’s encouraging to see for both Steam and the PC as a platform.

      Here’s a screeny someone took showing the difference actually: link to

  15. Lazaruso says:

    The Xbox 360 is dead?

    HAHAHAHAHAHA *chokes to death* **

    **ironically, so have millions of xboxes

    • Joe Duck says:

      I am not the only one to think that in 2012’s E3, Microsoft will announce a new console. The 360 is now living on the appeal of Kinect to attract new market segments. The 360’s “core market” (that is, people who play for example, Deux Ex) is saturated, almost everyone who was going to buy a 360 has already done so. True, many are being forced to buy again in order to get a new, non melted console, but you see what I mean.
      Also, from a technical standpoint, the 360 struggles to do high resolution gaming and that is becoming more and more a basic feature.
      I would say many of the same things about the PS3, but it is earlier in it’s life cycle as it came in the market a year later, it has the appeal of having a BlueRay player and I also think Sony will be slower to correct their position than Microsoft.

    • DrGonzo says:

      The melted console thing is quite a bit exaggerated to be fair though. At least in the sense that I’ve had to replace almost all of my consoles due to them breaking in their lifespan at least once, it’s not a new phenomenon. It began for me at the Megadrive era. Though I never had any problems with the old reliable Intellivision.

    • ResonanceCascade says:

      @Joe Duck

      Objectively, I don’t see a lot of evidence to support your points. The 360 is selling fantastically well. 1st quarter 2011 sales were up 29% year over year. I would be amazed if they announced another console before 2013. However, I would NOT be amazed if they announced another major peripheral next year, ala the Kinekt.

      Microsoft doesn’t care if a sale came from a core gamer or a casual gamer. A sale is a sale. They’d be shooting themselves in a foot by bringing out a new console just because “core” gamers want better graphics.

      If that leads to some gamers jumping ship to the PC to get a better visual experience, then good.

  16. says:

    I tend to bootcamp my Mac when I need to play games on it since most ports are horribly inefficient. I say “need’ because my iMac sits right next to my gaming PC. The iMac is for my design work, general surfing and netflix, etc, and the PC gets to play demanding games.

    It’s a little worrisome, though… None of Feral’s listed ports are Steamplay titles, unless I’m missing the mark here, which means this will be more of the same. Booooo. (though I’d love to be wrong)

    • grundus says:

      Yeah, that’s because Steam wouldn’t differentiate between the native PC version and the Feral Mac port, and both versions would sell for the same price, therefore meaning that Feral doesn’t get it’s cut. That’s the reason Aspyr- and Feral-ported titles like COD4 and Borderlands aren’t on Steam but they’re on the Mac App Store, which is where DXHR will most likely end up, for £10 more than the Steam Windows version.

    • LionsPhil says:

      But that’s OK, because Apple fanboy smuggery is powered by paying more for less. Exclusivity, you see.

    • Thants says:

      Seem to me that people who don’t like Apple are far more smug about it.

  17. akeso says:

    I didn’t ask for this.


  18. Eagle0600 says:

    Basically this is a smart move. Too many mac gamers to justify not porting. Linux too, believe it or not. Still, doing ports is surely easier if you start early in the creation of your game, building with three architectures in mind, right?

    • Cryotek says:

      They are already making the game for THREE platforms – two console, one Windows. Even though it’s the same hardware, doing Mac/Linux ports would basically make it FIVE platforms. That just gets nuts.

    • Thants says:

      It seems like once you’re on 3 platforms your code would already have to be pretty cross-platform.

    • jrodman says:

      Yeah, but there’s still costs of porting. There’s always costs.

      Mac is sometimes a pain because of the 3d driver quality.

      Linux is often a pain because of the quite significant ABI variation. (I say this as a big Linux fan, it’s just not an easy environment in which to ship audio/visual binary-only programs.)

      The costs are frequently lower for code that’s already fairly crossplatform, although sometimes surprisingly tricky (oh — we used this physics library to build everything.. and it’s not available for linux.. huh.).

  19. Zaboomafoozarg says:

    What a shame. It was a good game, what a rotten way to die.

  20. smoke.tetsu says:

    Feral’s ports tend to be generally good… especially their Bioshock port which runs on my 27 inch iMac at full settings at full speed although of course it is already an older title. It’s missing DX10 effects support though.

  21. Seb says:

    And the myth of Apple products being overpriced lives on…

    Part for part, component for component, Macs are actually equal to or cheaper than their PC counterparts — this has been the case for a few years now.

    In any case this is good for the Mac, good for Mac users, and good for Squenix, so wins all-around.

    • Theory says:

      I think you are mistaking “PC” with “laptop”.

    • Gnoupi says:

      Hey, you get better computers for less money or same price than us, leave us at least the pleasure to laugh at incorrect things.

      Don’t just take it all.

    • Magnetude says:

      @Theory: And “overpriced” with “expensive”. Their laptops are hella pricey, but worth the money if you have it.

    • Solidstate89 says:

      You couldn’t possibly be more wrong.

    • FunkyBadger3 says:

      link to

      link to

      Seems you’re wrong. But only by a factor of 2…

    • Theory says:

      I concur, especially for gaming. Laptops are a compromise.

    • ix says:

      The situation for ultrabooks is a bit different than the rest of the market. Seeing as Apple is the only one with a viable one on the market right now.

      I’m not convinced Apple laptops in other categories are ever cheaper, but if you like the specs they have then you probably won’t end up with anything significantly more expensive than one of the big PC manufacturers. Heaven forbid if you’d like a bit more RAM though.

  22. Hoaxfish says:

    iNever asked for this

  23. RuntsMcDuck says:

    As the proud owner of a Mac, I can tell you they aren’t that hard to upgrade. All you have to do is buy a new one.

    • Daiv says:

      Wow. When I upgrade I end up with a couple of screws left over. I don’t end up with an entire computer…

  24. kuran says:

    My Macbook Pro 15″ is a beautiful and powerful machine. Dual-booting for worldly pleasure.

    U jelly?

  25. rapchee says:

    i dual boot my amd machine :3
    strangely, stuff run much worse on osx …