Byte vs Brick: Week Ending Dec 4

The year’s big guns have all been loosed now, and Christmas wallet-raiding is fully upon us. So, which games will be cleaning up on Steam and at Uk retail? Skyrim, MW3, AssRev, or another challenger? And is the resurgence of Splash Damage’s last game enough for me to justify saying ‘Byte vs Brink’?


1. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
2. Assassin’s Creed Revelations
3. Terraria
4. Batman: Arkham City
5. BRINK: Complete Pack
6. Anno 2070
7. Civilization V: Game of the year Edition
8. Serious Sam 3: BFE
9. Dungeon Defenders
10. Payday: The Heist

The unholy power of sales at play there: Terraria, Brink, Civ V all returning to the charts due to deep discounting. Skyrim continues its rein at the top, with MW3 having vamoosed. I guess Skyrim’s on course to be one of, if not the, biggest selling mainstream PC games of the year, which hopefully bodes well for Bethesda supporting this platform. More graphics options/optimisation please, and an interface that makes sense on mouse and keyboard, not just looks pretty.

UK retail (including etailers):

1. Football Manager 2012
2. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
3. The Sims 3: Pets
4. Assassin’s Creed: Revelations
5. Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
6. The Sims 3
7. Battlefield 3
8. Batman: Arkham City
9. The Sims 3: Generations
10. The Sims 3: Late Night

A little more varied than usual, though the Sims retains four entries there. The year’s big games and making themselves known, but they can’t defeat the sheer power of feet and balls.

What will be the PC Christmas number one? Do we care? I bet it’ll be an Army Men game.


  1. atticus says:

    No-ho-ho and a bottle of Saints Row?

    The resolution on this ding-dong is: Sack.

  2. inertia says:

    I miss Army Men games.

    • Koozer says:

      Oh how I enjoyed melting those tan buggers to a puddle of sorry plastic goop with the flamethrower.

  3. Jumwa says:

    With how well Skyrim has been doing on PC, and the obvious difference in profits per title sold on PC vs. console (with the lack of licenses and the bigger cut that comes from digital), I’m finding it hard to imagine that PC stands beneath either the PS3 or 360 for Bethesda as the main platform here. Surely, if it’s not outselling either version, it must at least be worth more to them on a 1-1-1 basis?

    If so, here’s hoping that Bethesda throws more affection to PC in the future.

    Not to say that they haven’t done well by PC gamers. Despite our griping about the UI and other things–which is fair, we have a right to always expect better for our dollar–there are few game makers out there that do as much as Bethesda for their PC ports. Mod support alone is rare, and most PC ports don’t even seem to include a launcher.

    • thegooseking says:

      No, no. Bethesda started with not supporting the PC, and then went on to not supporting consoles either. They’ve now moved to exclusively supporting platforms on which they’re not actually releasing anything. Which is why we got an iPad interface in our PC game. I’ve heard they’re going to be releasing a patch for Skyrim tomorrow that fixes every single thing that’s wrong with the game, but only on the Atari Jaguar and select Hotpoint washing machines.

    • sneetch says:

      Dammit! I have a Philips washing machine. :/

    • The Tupper says:

      While the figures for Skyrim on the PC must be heartening to the developer, the amount of coverage in mainstream media that console versions obtain would, I guess, tend to diminish the perceived importance of a PC version.

  4. JackShandy says:

    It’s awesome that Skyrim is such a ridiculous hit. Now that it and Human Revolution have made so much dough, I’m hoping to see more immersive sim-ish games being made. (Fingers crossed for Dishonoured getting up there)

    • Chalky says:

      Absolutely, it is so healthy for PC gaming that really complex and flexible games like this are doing so well. There is so much scope for creativity in a genre as broad as “RPG sandbox”.

      Exciting times ahead hopefully.

    • Jumwa says:

      I don’t know about you folks, but I’m eager to start complaining about the glut of RPG sandbox or immersive sim titles. Bring it on!

  5. phenom_x8 says:

    Looks like everyone knows that DX 11 patch for BATMAN AC have already been leaked yesterday, no surprise its sits very well in both charts!

  6. BoZo says:

    What about Origin sales? Can we get those too?

  7. Milky1985 says:

    Steam charts are done by revenue right? Impressive for terraria (which was discoutned to about £3) to be up there against skyrim! Hopefully will add to the top 10 myself by getting serious sam after xmas (xmas money spending plans in place)

    Deserves it too, very good game pre patch, now theres even more stuff to do , very very scary looking stuff looking at the new boss details.

    And you get to kill unicorns which is good in my book

    • sneetch says:

      Yeah, I was hoping to see Terraria in the charts, it’s a great game and deserves some sales.

      (I think it’s number of sales and not revenue though)

    • Unaco says:

      I don’t think there’s ever been confirmation on what, exactly, the Steam charts are based on, or how they’re worked out. I think all we have to go on was a single line from GabeN, along the lines of “The chart is based on revenue”… but whether it is just straight revenue, or if it’s a bit more complex than that (to do with revenue and number of sales, and price as well maybe), I don’t know.

      I’m a little wary of it being based simply on revenue… Although, as we all know, if something is on sale on Steam it’s (probably) going to sell bucketloads, it’s hard for me to believe that some of the things can be in the chart if it’s based on revenue, because they are so cheap. As an example, just now, there are 2 Dungeon Defender DLCs in the chart… One for £0.90 and one for £0.40. The numbers that they would have to sell to produce revenue enough to put it on the charts is quite staggering.

      I could be wrong… but I think there has to be more to them than just straight revenue.

    • datom says:

      There’s a scarier interpretation of why Dungeon Defenders DLC could be generating so much revenue. I have no idea if it’s true, but here it is…

      Steam sells a neglible amount of non-sale games.

      1,000 people spending a $1 on DLC may well generate more revenue per week than all the sales of full price games that have been out >1 or 2 weeks. How many people buy Dungeon Siege III this week? 0, 1 maybe. Need for Speed Unleashed? Fallout: New Vegas? Steam Sales are just around the corner – why would you buy anything where the price isn’t slashed? Unless it was so cheap as to make no difference.

      You could contrast that with, where it’s perfectly believable that people continue to drop $5 on Fallout 2 all year long, because they have so many products at that impulse purchase point.

  8. Kandon Arc says:

    I don’t know why, but the continued presence of the Sims always surprises me. Doesn’t everyone have these games by now?

    • Gnoupi says:

      The Sims is the typical example of the game which is bought everyday by new, non-gamer people. As such, there is a big margin of new people. Hard to saturate the market when it’s expanding especially for your product.

  9. ItalianPodge says:

    Given that Gabe recently spoke about “surprising” trends in game purchases when the sales are on, I would like to know if he is surprised that a game that costs €49.99 (in Italy) on Steam isn’t in this Steam top ten when the same game costs £17 (€20 and free shipping to Italy) on Amazon and tops the retail charts.

    Ball to foot manager is Steamworks and Steamplay so it’s not like there is any incentive to purchase it through Steam as it gets added in on install anyway. Bah! I’m not buying it this year in any case but sometimes the pricing just baffles me.

  10. UnravThreads says:

    Anno 2070 is sixth on Steam? Wow, that surprises me.

    It also surprises me that people are stupid enough to lump up £35 for it, but hey, that’s consumers for you.