Gridlock: GTA V Delayed Again

Where is it? Where is the GTA?

It’s time for the February Edition of the monthly “Grand Theft Auto V Delay” post.

“Our apologies to PC gamers worldwide who have been counting down the days until the launch of the game, but a bit more time is needed to ensure that the game is as polished as possible, and to make certain that both Heists and the GTA Online experience are ready to roll out on day one for PC. As a gesture of thanks for your understanding, we will grant anyone who has pre-ordered the game an additional $200,000 in-game cash for use in GTA Online.”

The new release date is April 14th. The next release date is unknown at this time.

ESTRAJOHN:
I’m tired! (Pause.) Let’s go.

ADAMIR:
We can’t.

ESTRAJOHN:
Why not?

ADAMIR:
We’re waiting for GTA.

ESTRAJOHN:
Ah! (Pause. Despairing.) What’ll we do, what’ll we do!

ADAMIR:
There’s nothing we can do.

ESTRAJOHN:
But I can’t go on like this!

ADAMIR:
Would you like a roguelike?

See you next month!

86 Comments

  1. dsch says:

    “We are sorry. Have more monopoly money!”

    • Sparkasaurusmex says:

      Doesn’t this sort of thing throw off the balance at the start of the game? Or is there no such thing anyway?

      • TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

        It’s not so bad, really, besides people can even import their old characters with 782-pentazillion dollars.

        The idea is that GTA online is much more than that, ask those who keep joining for the weird stunt maps, they really don’t need anything else.

        Eitherway, i’m not sure i’m happy with the delay: the usual common sense should be that it’ll be better off for it come release, but at this point we all know that this is a simple admission that no matter what they try it’ll still be broken at launch.

        • Sparkasaurusmex says:

          I suppose it’s still better that they fix whatever it is the delay concerns than just shove it out “more” broken

    • solymer89 says:

      2.2 mil, 2.7 mil, whatever the total has reached for pre-purchase, is only a lot of money because the time involved and the reward given for missions, robberies, etc… is rather small in comparison (better than it was a couple months ago though). Where the realization occurs is when you see the price of things like cars/homes. 2.2 mil will get you one top of the line home with 10 car garage (~550k), a top of the line super car, fully upgraded (~1.2 – 1.6 mil depending on model), and some fun money between 350-500k, maybe less. So in essence it is a rather large head start, but will likely be reached within the first month or two of starting from scratch, maybe sooner if you play obsessively.

      • TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

        There is nothing special in that money anyway, and cash is not that important unless you’re really broke.

        In the campaign there are no decent ways to get enough just by grinding, and aside from the missions specifically set up to have you damage a company in order to sell the stock of the rival for an inflated price, all you really have is playing with BAWSAQ.

        I invested almost 30 millions in Pisswasser’s ( lol ) stock back when it was 2 dollars or so, then sold when it was 30-ish… Now that’s some profit!

  2. Axyl says:

    Surprising exactly no-one.

    I’m also still not convinced the port isn’t going to suck.

    Fool me once.

    Hopefully, i’m proven really wrong about this come april (unless they delay it yet again) but I’m not convinced. Rockstar have too bad a history on PC for me to believe that these constant delays are going to make the port worthwhile.

    • Awesomeclaw says:

      GTA4 was pretty terrible on release but I had a good experience with Max Payne 3, other than the shonky netcode in the multiplayer.

      • Smoky_the_Bear says:

        Yeah can’t argue with that, didn’t play the multiplayer but Max Payne 3 was a well done port from a frame rate, graphics and controls point of view.

        • Awesomeclaw says:

          IMO it suffered from the same problems of Far Cry 3’s competitive multiplayer – set in an interesting world, carries over the feel of the single player (MP3 especially had some interesting bullet time stuff), but plagued by bad netcode, peer-to-peer lobbbying, and bad matchmaking.

      • TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

        It might not be a good example though, corridors are easier to optimize.

  3. James says:

    Another few weeks to wait. I now expect literally all of the world’s polish to be used on this game. If my download doesn’t come with free polish – I will be disappointed.

    On the one hand I am unhappy because they are delaying something that has already been delayed twice. On the other I am not unhappy because that seem to genuinly want the game to be as perfect as possible. Only time (and seemingly a lot of it) will tell.

    • SominiTheCommenter says:

      R* already hired the entire population of Poland, what do you want them to do?

      • TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

        I have a polish friend that still refuses to preorder it. Unless he’s a really jaded individual, he might know something.

    • Awesomeclaw says:

      Since it sounds like they’re delaying because of broken multiplayer stuff, I’d be entirely happy if they released the singleplayer on the ‘original’ launch date. I guess you can barely ship a AAA game without it having multiplayer stuff these days though.

      • jrodman says:

        AAA is actually a diagram of three people enjoying the game together.

        • Xzi says:

          And enjoying it so much that they’re apparently stuck on the ‘A’ from the YMCA dance. I’m very glad I haven’t pre-ordered. I don’t intend to now. These delays are bordering on ridiculous.

        • Universal Quitter says:

          Thanks for that laugh. I needed it.

  4. SamC says:

    I can only imagine the crunch the PC team is going through.

    • Shuck says:

      Which is probably what’s causing the delay – or at least contributing to it. The kind of crunch that happens in game development wears people out and causes them to make mistakes/not do their best work, which so consistently lead to teams getting more behind in their work. I hear the same story so often I’m surprised no one has figured it out by now.

      • WiggumEsquilax says:

        Everyone has figured it out by now. Except management. To find out management will finally get a clue, let me forward you to a friend of mine.

        link to dilbert.com

      • jonahcutter says:

        That’s true in any field. Diminishing returns becomes a real factor. And expensive. Even with that though, sometimes you just have to grind it out.

        Spending 2+ months working 12-14 hour days, 7-days a week, really drives home the concept of “work”.

    • Catchcart says:

      Actually, no. You can read about it too.

      • ARoberts says:

        So wait, are you saying there’s not any crunch going on, based on that article? “Crunch is less of a problem than it was in 2004, but it remains an intrinsic part of development culture” is what the article says, and I can tell you for a fact people are still doing insane crunch hours at many studios around the world.

  5. caff says:

    I’d rather it was late and played well, than released early in a buggy mess (Rome 2 I am looking at you).

  6. caff says:

    I don’t know anything about the GTA Online “cash” – would I regret not pre-ordering to get all the extra cash?

    • James says:

      I doubt it

    • TomA says:

      When it was released on consoles the multiplayer wasn’t functional, when it finally became available (still only partly finished) it was so full of bugs and exploits that everyone became a multi millionaire with their GTA money.

      I never played it myself but I remember my brother adding some information into the in game web browser for ordering cars and getting a DLC activated car that hadn’t even been officially released.

    • Martel says:

      Kinda depends on what you’re looking for, but cash is relatively easy to come by in multiplayer so it’s not a game breaker or anything. It would help you get a multiplayer property which is how you store custom cars (ie the garage in the house) and pay for upgrades to the vehicles. But unless they changed how it worked since the last time I played, you have to do quite a bit of actual playing to unlock the parts to buy, so you’ll probably have plenty of money to do so without the preorder bonuses.

  7. mtomto says:

    Well I sure hope Cities Skylines won’t suck then. Otherwise March/April is gonna suck……..

  8. orshick says:

    PC release gets shunted again. Thanks Rockstar, for treating PC like the ugly cousin again.

    • mtomto says:

      How would you react if the PC version wasn’t working/buggy? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Even if it is annoying, then I think it was the better choice they took.

      • TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

        A delay sounds decent on paper, but nowadays they don’t really accomplish much.

        Oh, sure, they’ll fix some things, but how do we know how bad the situation is now? As a general rule with some companies, a delay is not there to make the game shine, but to make it’s badness suck less, and it probably is bad now not because they couldn’t do better, but because they didn’t really put much effort into it in the first place.

        • Kaeoschassis says:

          I don’t really thing “delaying it three times” and “not putting much effort in” are really compatible here…

          • TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

            Maybe most of their team is still working on the heist mode for the console version while there are just a few dudes and dudettes dedicated to the PC port, but that doesn’t excuse their re-release for consoles only so they could have three tiers of purchases, since the still not so good install base of next gen ones wouldn’t fetch much if the PC version was released at the same time.

            They’ve been working on this game for a lot of time, really, they could manage a simultaneous release of the remaster as most companies can. But it’s hard for me to be convinced that they care since they never even announced the PC version before even though everyone knew that it’d come eventually, and it’s no mistery why they did that.

            The PC version might already be out and now they would be working on the three platforms at the same time for this elusive unicorn that is the heist mode, but off course it was better to have the PS4-Xbone only versions first to maximize sales yet again. Why? Because a company that used so many layers of DRM on GTA4 probably still thinks like Ubisoft when it comes to PC piracy. It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, it matters that they believe it to be true.

        • milton says:

          You can’t be sure that delays don’t do much since you don’t see the product before the delay and after the delay.

          While no doubt there are still gonna be some big teething issues on launch, I usually have faith in developers pushing back release dates mostly because it at least speaks some volume that they care about some level quality over just making it a cash cow.

      • airmikee says:

        $20 says the game will be buggy and full of holes no matter how much time they spend “fixing” it.

        • Baines says:

          Heck, Rockstar still hasn’t added Heists to the console version of GTA V Online, and that was a feature promised with the game’s launch. (Now currently set for a March 10 implementation.)

      • orshick says:

        I’m more referring to the fact that the PC one is now on track to come out 1.5 years after the console version. And yet somehow, most other AAA developers get out console and PC versions out at the same time. Obviously the PC port was pretty low down on their priority list.

        • fish99 says:

          Yeah it’s not like the choices are just release late or release buggy, they managed to release 4 console versions of this game now without major bugs and on-time, and they could do the same thing on PC if they cared.

          • TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

            Yeah, the PC space might be a bit more complicated but not THAT much of a mess. By all means, many other developers indeed proved many times that stuff is doable. If you care, that is.

  9. JonClaw says:

    I’m going to order so much popcorn if this port comes out less than near-perfect.

    • Myrdinn says:

      you should probably already order right now, I don’t think anyone has much faith in a perfect PC port.

      • WiggumEsquilax says:

        Don’t you realize what you’ve done?! You just encouraged someone to preorder!

  10. gbrading says:

    Counting from the original 2014 delay, this is the third delay. If this game doesn’t run like a dream when launched there are going to be a lot of vexed players, to put it mildly.

  11. Kempston Wiggler says:

    “The next release date is unknown at this time.”

    Ouch, Adam. :)

  12. Rindan says:

    Meh, I am rarely bothered by delays in releasing mostly finished product. Better to do it right once than releases a broken piece of shit. I wish Rockstar had put more effort into PC development, but I am perfectly content with them not releasing broken shit.

    That said, I sure as shit didn’t pre-order.

  13. SMGreer says:

    Yeesh. I hope this is it and it doesn’t get pushed back further into May, cause that’s Witcher month.

  14. Scrote says:

    Why would someone complain about a delayed release? Surely it’s just going to make the game better. Whether it’s a “good” game or not when it comes out is another matter, but let’s please celebrate that someone is willing to invest resources into trying to prevent buggy-shitstorms from cynically being released too early.

    CELEBRATE!

  15. int says:

    The rage has begun… IT HAS BEGUN!

  16. PancreaticDefect says:

    God damnit. Thanks Rockstar. Now I have an even narrower window between major releases. April: GTAV (maybe), May: The Witcher 3, June: Batman Arkham Knight. I’d better start stocking up on Redbull and coffee beans now if I’m to have enough to get through those three months. If I dont make it I’m counting on everyone on this site to avenge my death.

  17. P.Funk says:

    Holy shit.

    Reading how people rationalize how this is a load of bullshit is fascinating. Its like by delaying it R* is personally pissing all over the PC gamer master race.

    What exactly do people want? Just to play the game? A single release date because they’re children who can’t help but throw toys?

    I don’t get it. I honestly don’t. Does this game have some emotional significance to people? How can people shit talk this game and demand its release at the same time? My head is turning inside out.

    • kament says:

      Yeah, they just want to play the game very much and they just can’t, poor sods. That’s why they’re… somewhat frustrated. Makes me glad I’m not into it anymore. No, it’s not schadenfreude!

      • P.Funk says:

        Yea but the reasoning is baffling. Its like their frustrations lead to condemnations that are contradictory. Its like watching… oh right children.

    • Awesomeclaw says:

      You’re right, how dare people expect a product to be delivered on time, especially when some of them have already paid for it to be delivered. After all, it’s not like that product was released over a year ago on other consoles, and then again 3 months ago.

    • Sakkura says:

      This game was released 1½ years ago. I know a good port takes time, but come on.

    • TacticalNuclearPenguin says:

      I don’t have a problem with waiting, i have a problem with the knowledge that waiting any further won’t improve anything tangible other than to confirm that they’re half-assing the whole thing since quite a lot of time.

      I don’t want them to release it earlier because i’m not patient, this game would have already been released if only they were actually putting some effort into it.

      This is not a PC master race debate, this is Rockstar not giving a crap.

  18. Seafort says:

    At this point in time I’m thinking about cancelling my preorder.

    I already have Cities Skylines and now Sid Meiers Starships in March so won’t be missing out on an old game like GTA5 since I played it on PS3 years ago :P

    Rockstar don’t seem to care about PC gaming at all. They are on the same scale as Microsoft for that. And I thought Ubisoft was bad with their delays.

    • Stromko says:

      Just do it. The game will have to come out eventually anyway, and a years-old AAA game isn’t worth 30$ let alone however much you’ve had to put down for GTA5.

  19. Werthead says:

    Irritating, but also kind of a relief, as I wasn’t sure to dedicate the time to this or PILLARS OF ETERNITY. With this delayed, that makes that choice easier :) Although if PoE is as big as they’re saying, I’m not sure those two weeks will be enough.

  20. ffordesoon says:

    What is going on with this port?

  21. mike2R says:

    Dammit, I’ve been looking forward to this. Recently got back into GTA IV after a long-time dalliance with the Saints Row franchise, with a new PC that can max out the draw distance, and it really is a very good game. Better than I appreciated when it came out, I think. Though that might just be the effect of running it on a modern rig.

    I do like Saints Row III & IV a lot, but I’ve realised I’ve missed the more gritty feel, and a world where nicking a hot sports car and weaving through traffic at top speed feels like something special.

  22. mpk says:

    Was intending to buy it in the Steam Summer Sale anyway – may have to put that off til christmas now.

    • Stromko says:

      It certainly wouldn’t make any sense to pay full price for a game that is years old. I was planning to wait until GTA5 was gettable at 40$, but by time it becomes available it will really be worth more like 10 or 20$ due to its intense datedness.

      By time PC owners get their hands on this game, graphics purists won’t be able to look at it without a top-to-bottom texture patch.

  23. Monkeh says:

    Ugh.. ¬_¬’

  24. yan spaceman says:

    I think i’m gonna buy Elite Dangerous instead.

  25. foszae says:

    Very glad i haven’t pre-ordered. Don’t need free cheat money and don’t need to be slavishly devoted to a publisher who discriminates against PC users

  26. InfamousPotato says:

    Huh… I read Waiting for Godot just last week… I wonder how many references to it I’ve missed over the years. It’s really weird noticing them now.

  27. Nat be at says:

    Its probably been delayed because there has not been even a quarter of the expected amount of preorders for the game. Has nothing to do with polish, they just don’t want to release it until a certain quota is met because like everyone else has said they have not done anything at all and it will be buggy as hell. They know it will be an outrageous bomb(like ET level) and they will probably push it back and back and back again until they finally make that quota.

    Sorry Rockstar, you’ve dicked me over on pc releases for well over a decade. Fuck you and your pre orders.

  28. Simon_Scott says:

    “So it’s delayed then?”
    “It’s delayed.”
    “Was it delayed before?”
    “It was delayed.”
    “And it’s delayed now?”
    “It’s delayed now.”
    “That’s bad.”
    “It’s not good.”
    “It’s not bad.”
    “But it’snot good.”
    “When will it be released?”
    “What?”
    “When will it be released?”
    “I don’t know.”
    “You don’t know?”
    “I don’t know.”
    “When do they say it will be released?”
    “Next month. I think.”
    “Next month?”
    “I think… Next month, I think.”
    “And then?”
    “And then?”
    “And then?”
    “And then who knows.”
    “They say that when you hang…”
    “When you hang?”
    “They say that you get an erection.”
    “When you hang?”
    “When you hang.”
    “When you hang you get an erection.”
    “I’ve not had an erection for some time.”
    “I’ve not had an erection for some time.”
    “And when you hang..?”
    “When you hang you get an erection.”
    “So they say.”
    “So they say.”
    “What is Grand Theft Auto?”
    “What is Grand Theft Auto?”
    “Yes. What is it?”
    “I forget.”
    “You forget?”
    “Yes I forget. Grand Theft Auto?”
    “Yes.”
    “I forget. Something to do…”
    “Yes…?”
    “Something to do…”
    “Yes…?”
    “I forget.”
    “Ah.”
    “The thought was there, but it’s gone.”
    “Ah.”
    “Everything was there, but it’s gone.”
    “And what now?”
    “What now?”
    “Yes. What now?”
    “I forget.”
    “You forget?”
    “Or I never knew.”
    “You never knew?”
    “I never knew.”
    “So it goes.”
    “So it goes.”
    “You never knew?”
    “I never knew.”
    “So it goes.”
    “So it goes.”

  29. Kyle_Katarn says:

    I really can’t wait for it to be released and the port to be garbage. The feeling of vindication would be enormous.

    It’s been out for over a year now, it’s a bargain bin game at this point.

    • LaRock0wns says:

      How is it a bargain bin game? It’s still a great game. Do you watch Shawshank Redemption and think it’s a bargin bin movie? No. It’s still a great movie. And to hope it’s garbage. Really? Why? Some twisted vindication because they owe YOU something? Take a deep breath. Count to 10. A delay game is not the end of the world.

  30. bad guy says:

    Oh well. Good thing there is so much more to enjoy in life other than video games.

  31. Emohawk says:

    I’ve lost the will to care about this game any more. I’ll play it for 5-10 mins when I pick it up for £5 in a couple of years.

  32. BrianHunter says:

    Any suggestions on how I now spend the holidays I took from work?

  33. -Spooky- says:

    HL3 on release, befor GTA V anyway ..