CD Projekt Red given loads of money, researching seamless multiplayer

They say ’tis the season for giving, and it looks like CD Projekt Red has been allowed to open one of their presents a few days before December 25: a cash bounty from the Polish government to the tune of 30 million zloty (that’s $7 million US dollars or £5.6 million Queen’s megapounds), according to a report from WCCFTech.

To make off with those hefty stacks from a total jackpot of 116 million zloty, the Witcher 3 developer submitted four proposals to the Polish National Center for Research of Development, along with one additional one relating to cross-platform development of GOG.

Let’s have a look at what the proposals were about, shall we, and then we can sit back and (perhaps excitedly, it is Christmas after all) speculate on what the studio could possibly be working on next:

City Creation
Comprehensive technology for the creation of “live”, playable in real-time, cities of great scale based on the principles of artificial intelligence and automation and taking into account the development of innovative processes and tools supporting the creation of high-quality open world games.

Seamless Multiplayer
Comprehensive technology enables the creation of unique gameplay for many players, taking into account the search of opponents, session management, replication facilities, and support of a variety of game modes along with a unique set of dedicated tools.

Cinematic Feel
Comprehensive technology for providing a unique, film quality RPG with open world, also taking into account innovative solutions Process and unique set of dedicated tools.

Animation Excellence
Comprehensive technology enabling a significant increase in quality and production of complex face and body animations for open world RPG games, also taking into account the innovative process solutions and a unique set of dedicated tools.

Elsewhere in the list of winners, Dying Light developer Techland saw their bank accounts fill up after promising a prototype of a first-person fantasy RPG, with money also reaching the coffers of CI Games, The Farm 51, and Bloober Team.

In a statement, CD Projekt Red boss Adam Kicinski said the resulting schemes would “enable Polish developers to carry out nearly 40 projects worth 191 million PLN.” Even without staring into our crystal ball (PLEASE LET IT BE CYBERPUNK 2077) and looking at the future, seeing this investment into our industry on the world stage gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling… or maybe that’s just all the glühwein kicking in.

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54 Comments

  1. LexW1 says:

    Whilst I’m sure this is a good thing technically, this worries me a bit given we’ve heard rumours that CP2077 has morphed from a single-player CRPG to something more like a cyberpunk GTA Online, as it arguably supports them. I’m sure a lot of people would be very keen on the latter, of course, but I was hoping for something a bit more thoughtful.

    • mtomto says:

      Yea, I hoped for a singleplayer game too… online play brings out the worst in people. I’d prefer to immerse myself in a game world, rather than having to deal with sugar-overdosed kids teabagging left and right.

      • Horg says:

        Considering they’ve only just got the green light for the grant, nothing practical will come from this research for years, so it’s doubtful that it will impact Cyberpunk at all. Besides, there has already been confirmation that Cyberpunk will have a multiplayer component. If that alone can run the game, then it’s already done, this story shouldn’t change anything.

        • LexW1 says:

          This isn’t scientific research, so I’m not sure why you’d think it’d be “years”? You have some kind of basis or citation for that? CP2077 is still in very early development, so if this research takes a year or two it could very much involve CP2077 (indeed it might be done as part of that development). The concern with CP2077 isn’t “any multiplayer” either (that can be fine – ME3’s MP was awesome, and DA:I’s was dull but had zero impact on the game, at least that we can tell), the concern is that it might be changing it’s focus from SP CRPG to either an SP “story mode” in a basically MMO-ish game, or even that the there is no SP, and it’s just a multiplayer game with a story.

      • Dave3d says:

        The problem is, there wont be many SP games left out there.
        There has been a huge push for games to be online, even if they are SP games.
        This is changing the way games are, and smushing all the games into one big glob of watery gameplay.
        Even online gameplay has changed from 16 vs 16 player days, down to 4 vs 4 players?
        SP games are getting the ‘coop’ treatment to be ‘online’, and other things happening to SP games to try to make them be online games.
        I am glad I am getting old, and my hands and back and neck hurt, so I dont play games alot anymore (and most are being crammed together to see what sticks anyway, look at mafia 3 (a SP game with excellent story (history, M2 was that way) being crammed together with gta/the division style play to create a horrible mess of a game (from I and II’s pov), moba+’s, and the list goes on and on and on.
        Also, the games just being re-skinned online games anyway, with a ‘hey, its now xx’s ip in xx’s engine now! and plays exactly the same but with different skins and mounts’.
        Not to mention the Windows 10 movement to move pc’s to xbones (online again).
        Just my opine.
        ;)

  2. Ghostwise says:

    That’s… not very PiS-like, give the Polish developments in recent months. Odd.

    • Rosveen says:

      While our Supreme Leader Jarosław probably isn’t a fan of video games, I don’t see why it would be unlike PiS. There’s nothing political or ideological about this project – and our Ministry of Development actually isn’t completely incompetent.

    • foresterr says:

      Why not? They are all POLAN STRONK, good to see they are making an exception and playing to something more like an actual strength this time.

  3. Derpkovsky says:

    I literally had a nightmare the other day about CD Projekt Red turning the Witcher into some sort of soulles online mmo to make money off the name. When I woke up I tried to calm myself “they’re good developers, they won’t do that to their game” but i’m a bit anxious now. The creation of ‘live’ an big scale cities sounds grand though!

    • LexW1 says:

      They’re unlikely to do that to Witcher, but it’s been rumoured for a while that that would be CP2077’s fate and this does not help!

    • SaintAn says:

      Well Gwent is a cheap poorly made microtransaction/scam card game, so I expect they’re getting greedy and planning on selling out to the lowest common denominator just like every great developer before them has done from BioWare to Blizzard to Bethesda now that they’ve made a name for themselves.

      • Coming Second says:

        This is such an absurd statement I’ve tried and failed to come up with a reply that properly expresses as much.

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          phuzz says:

          I guess it’s a poorly made scam game because it fails to scam in any meaningful way.
          Sure you could spend money on it, but why bother when you unlock free stuff all the time anyway?
          Bad CPR! That’s not how you scam players at all!

          • SaintAn says:

            Since you have trouble following I’ll explain. They charge real money for digital cards. They may not pressure you as much as other games do, but it’s still a scam taking advantage of the weak and stupid to profit. You still reading? Were you able to follow that? Okay good, you haven’t wondered off yet. Now what cheap means is that it is a very cheaply made game. The UI, the feel, the physics, non-card game art, the paragraph size descriptions on some cards, and the shape of the cards, it’s all very cheap looking and feeling. Nowhere near as good as Gwent in Witcher 3. Most of this is likely permanent and not just beta stuff. Still there?

        • Ghostwise says:

          There’s always “Fnord”.

        • SaintAn says:

          Put yer thinkin’ cap on, son, daddy’s about to exorcise your ignorance.
          [Developer] once made great games and loved making them. Nearly every game they made was made with love and was an instant classic that would replayed over and over for eternity. But slowly they lost touch and got greedier and greedier so they started targeting the lowest common denominator with their games because that’s where the big money is at.

          So they slowly started adding microtransactions, or excessive DLC instead of expansions, or dumbing the games down instead of keeping them complex and deep, start selling games instead of making them and build enough reliance control and ruin PC gaming with decisions made from greed, and other behaviors like making cheap card games with microtransations to take advantage of the stupid and weak.

          This is the same story of every once great developer. Look into it.

          • Phasma Felis says:

            Okay great, but you’re missing the part where a card game where you can (but aren’t at all required to) spend real money isn’t a “scam.” If you have a game that (as many do) tempts you in with fun gameplay and then puts increasingly-frustrating obstacles in your path that can only be circumvented with real money, that might be a scam. Gwent obviously isn’t one of those.

            TL;DR: Simply offering a product/service isn’t a “scam.” It’s how money works.

          • thaquoth says:

            Congratulations on the most condescending posts I’ve seen on the internet all month.

            God, video game consumer advocacy is so tedious.

          • Coming Second says:

            Stopped reading after the first sentence. Sorry, person claiming to be my father.

      • TheAntsAreBack says:

        StAn – selling a digital product for money doesn’t make it a scam. No one it’s being conned into buying anything they hadn’t intended to buy. It’s simply a product for sale.

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    Ninja Dodo says:

    Judging by the news of late that might be the only thing the Polish government is doing right at the moment.

    • aeromorte says:

      Dont belive everything you hear from the media. The previous ruling party had every mainstream media in thier pocket (tons of medals + rewards for each one of them over 10+ years) so right now they are using it. Almost every Polish citizen facepalms and avoids the news beacause of how stupid they are. Its a clear onesided attack no matter how you look at it. Anway GAMES!

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        Ninja Dodo says:

        I am frankly suspicious of claims of ‘biased media’ at any sign of criticism (so often the recourse of those whose views do not stand up to scrutiny) and either way it’s safe to say they have no influence on media outside of Poland. Above assessment is based on the Polish government’s observable recent actions and apparent political trajectory (both of which in my view are cause for serious concern).

        But, as you say, GAMES!

    • DThor says:

      As much as I love the Red guys and Witcher, deep down I hate this shit. The government is taking tax money and giving it away to individuals – not an organization with any particular overseer – and assuming that a bureaucrat’s decision is the right one. As much as Witcher was amazing there’s no tangible reason this particular tech will be developed better by Red than any number of other tech companies.
      I know this is nothing new but it always rubs me the wrong way.

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        Ninja Dodo says:

        Subsidies are the device that ensures that not only things that are obviously profitable have a chance to exist. The Market is fucking stupid and incapable of seeing value in anything that does not produce money. There are many things of great value that are not remotely profitable. Subsidies, grants and other such things made possible by taxes are essential to the existence of a well-rounded society. A world that values only monetary return on investment is a world made of garbage.

        • robodojo says:

          What is “the Market”? And what is an example of an “anything” that produces money?

          • pepperfez says:

            The Market is a means by which different bureaucrats decide how everyone’s money is spent and we are forced to believe those bureaucrats are right because they are The Market.

  5. kud13 says:

    Great for CDPRED.

    As long as all their games remain viable to play in single-player, offline, and available DRM-free on GOG.

  6. Landiss says:

    Guys, one thing is not entirely correct here. This is not exactly funded by Polish government. It’s part of EU funds, the Polish government is only adding some small part (around 10-20% I think).

    I think it’s this one:

    link to ec.europa.eu

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      Ninja Dodo says:

      That makes sense. Of course it was funded by the EU. Something tells me there are going to be a lot of “oh wait, that useful thing was funded by the EU?” discoveries in coming years.

    • JoeD2nd says:

      The governments doesn’t have money. Every dime they have is taken from the people.

      • Otterley says:

        But surely they must have the money after taking it from the people?

        • pepperfez says:

          Money becomes unreal when held by the government and can only be made real again by being given to a comprehensively undeserving person or enterprise (people in need and projects that serve the common good cannot re-realize money) or to me.

      • Booker says:

        By that logic no one has money, since everyone gets it from someone else.

  7. Wulfram says:

    Surely it’s just £5.6 Queen’s megapounds or £5,600 kilopounds

    • Ergates_Antius says:

      Was about to post the same. Though it did get me thinking how great it would be if we adoped the kilo/mega/giga prefix for money too.

      • Pravin Lal's Nuclear Arsenal says:

        I’m ok with that, as long as you guys drop the -pound suffix altogether and stick to -sterling. The whole concept of a kilo-pound is very confusing to my metric brain: it makes me think you’re referring to a weight that is itself, half of itself and a hundred times half of itself all at the same time. Seriously guys, that’s just trolling us rest of the world.

  8. laggyluk says:

    sad part is that research is funded from taxes but company keeps the results

    • lglethal says:

      Not really. The people working on the game pay taxes. The profits of the company if the games are successful are taxed, and when people buy the game they pay sales tax.

      True the tax back on those probably wont equal what was spent, but it drives employment for a lot of people all through the supply chain (not just the company, but the restaurants nearby, the manufacturers of the physical goods, the delivery firms, etc.). It all adds up to people working, earning money, paying taxes. So that’s a good thing…

      • sosolidshoe says:

        It would be a better thing if governments providing this kind of funding had the sack to leverage the rare(thanks, neoliberal economics!) moment of power these kinds of grants give them over corporations to enrich the commons as well as corporate CEOs and shareholders.

        They should be attaching clauses that force the results of the funded work out into the public domain after companies have had a reasonable amount of time to make money from them. So much research in so many areas is done with public funds or using the facilities of public institutions, yet corporations are allowed to keep all of the benefits. And say what you like about “jerb creaturz”, access to the fruits of all the tech & pharma projects without having to pay thousand-percent markups would be better for our quality of life and drive far more economic activity than a few dozen additional jobs here or there and a slight bump in the amount of tax corporations can’t get away with avoiding.

      • JoeD2nd says:

        It would behoove you to look up the concept of the seen vs the unseen. No offense, but your analysis is no better than that of a 3 yr old: better for me cause I get money. The fact is that the money wasted on these games would have gone somewhere else – spent on things that the people who the money was stolen from actually WANTED to spend it on. Not some dumb game. The money they spent on the things they actually wanted would go to create jobs in the sectors that the people want! Not the sectors that the government (and you) want. This is why markets work: people spending money on the things THEY want. When government allocates resources to special interests we all lose.

        And your admittance that the return will not equal the money invested proves the point.

    • Yglorba says:

      That’s true for any arts / cultural funding. Relative to the government’s budget it’s peanuts, and they’ve calculated that the benefits to the country (in terms of raising its national profile, attracting foreign investment, building the base for a strong industry, etc) is worth the relatively minor investment.

      • JoeD2nd says:

        “they calculated”

        You must be joking right? Have you no concept of the history of “government calculations.” They’re all bullshit.

  9. SuicideKing says:

    1. It’s WCCFTech, notorious rumour-mongers. Please treat all news with caution (even if it’s mostly true, may contain errors).

    2. “Cinematic Feel” is giving me flashbacks to 30 fps…

    • Zenicetus says:

      “Cinematic feel” gives me flashbacks to the awful Kayran fight in Witcher 2. The devs dreamed up a sequence that couldn’t be handled with the normal combat controls, so they made it a QTE movie.

      They learned a lesson about how clumsy that worked, and how much people hated QTE’s, so there was none of that in Witcher 3. It had better not return in Cyberpunk. If you want to make movies, then go work in the film biz instead.

  10. Isendur says:

    I hope taking those money doesn’t compromise CDPR’s projects. God knows taking money from someone often comes with hidden agendas. Hope this isn’t some way to f* with the company. Time will tell.

  11. Jackablade says:

    I think I’m going to lobby for our country to adopt the Zloty. It’s a much better name than boring old “dollars”.

  12. JoeD2nd says:

    Nothing like stealing 7 million dollars from taxpayers to fund your stupid game.

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