MSI GT75VR Titan Pro review: The ultimate gaming laptop if you’re willing to sell a kidney


We’ve looked at our fair share of gaming laptops at RPS over the last year, but nothing has been quite so preposterous as MSI’s new GT75VR 7RF Titan Pro. This three grand mega laptop has the complete works: an Nvidia GTX 1080 chip paired with a quad-core 2.9GHz Intel Core i7-7820HK processor and 32GB of RAM, a 17.3in, 120Hz Full HD display (which I can only assume to be IPS because MSI neglected to specify), a mechanical Steelseries RGB keyboard, a super fast 512GB NVMe SSD and a 1TB HDD.

It’s a ridiculous piece of machinery, made even sillier by its enormous size. Measuring a colossal 428 x 314 x 58mm and weighing a back-breaking 4.56kg, this is going nowhere except the middle of a very large, sturdy desk. Even if you did manage to lug it somewhere, you wouldn’t be able to get much out of it away from a plug socket anyway, as I barely managed an hour of gaming on it with the screen set to half brightness.

But let’s be honest. Who has £3,099 to spend on such a thing in the first place? Not many, I’d wager. Yet, as a neat, all-in-one solution for both high-end gaming and semi-portable VR, the GT75VR does hold a certain appeal. So let’s forget how much it costs for a moment, and just revel in what this crazy machine’s capable of, shall we? Because we all sort of wish we had a rig like this, and it’s nice to dream such things might one day be within reach of us mere mortals.

Starting with that GTX 1080 graphics chip, the GT75VR is truly a no compromise laptop. Nearly every game I played took full advantage of the extra headroom provided by the screen’s 120Hz refresh rate, with Doom and Wolfenstein II in particular looking smoother and more polished than BJ Blazkowicz’s chiselled jaw line in all their Ultra, Mein Leben glory.

MSI GT75VR rear

The GT75VR also saw Hitman’s Agent 47 pushing through the Paris fashion crowds without the slightest hint of hesitation on the highest graphics setting, and it even took Rise of the Tomb Raider’s notoriously demanding geothermal valley in its stride, with nary a performance dip as the benchmarking tool swooped through its dense, misty forests. Total War: Warhammer II was equally confident on the battlefield as well, with each of our Lizardmen rushing into combat without a hitch.

Even turning off Shadow of War’s dynamic resolution feature on Ultra wasn’t a problem for the GT75VR, with frame rates remaining well over 60fps throughout. The same goes for Assassin’s Creed Origins, where sailing across Siwa’s rippling lake and charging through crowded streets on a camel felt as smooth as sand falling through our fingers. Some games, of course, like The Witcher III have their frame rates locked at 60fps unless you start fiddling about with the config files, but needless to say, the GT75VR coped handsomely with everything – Hairworks, shadow quality, the lot – turned on at Ultra at 1080p, so it shouldn’t have any problem running at higher frame rates if you feel so inclined.

MSI hasn’t spared any expense on the screen itself, either. Despite not disclosing its actual panel type, my tests showed it had practically perfect picture quality (covering 99.5% of the sRGB colour gamut if you’re into that sort of thing). Black levels were a touch higher than I’d like, all told, but its high brightness and decent contrast ratio more than made up for it. The screen also scored highly on more professional-grade colour scales, too, making it a great fit for video and photo work as well as gaming – particularly when all that graphical heft is backed up by a supremely capable Intel Core i7-7820HK processor.

MSI GT75VR front

If you’re rather game at 60fps and bump up the resolution, however, its HDMI port on the rear is fully-geared up for connecting it to an external monitor, whether it’s 4K or something with an even higher refresh rate like Asus’ PG248Q. There are also mini DisplayPort and USB-Type C connections, plus Gigabit Ethernet, five USB3 ports, an SD card reader, headphone and microphone jacks and line in and out jacks.

And that storage. Good grief, the storage! Sitting equally in the top of the line category as everything else on this laptop, the GT75VR has two super fast 256GB NVMe SSDs RAIDed together to produce one giant 512GB speed demon, with sequential read and write speeds hitting four digit MB/s figures – like, over 3300MB/s read and 2,700MB/s write if you really want to get technical about it. A regular SATA-based SSD, by comparison, normally has read and write speeds somewhere in the low hundreds. With this NVMe concoction, on the other hand, we’re looking at getting to the main menu of something like Rise of the Tomb Raider in under ten seconds, which is pretty impressive. If that wasn’t enough, there’s also a regular 1TB HDD for when you run out of space. It’s nothing special in the speed department, but no one turns their nose up at an extra 1TB HDD.

The SteelSeries Rapid mechanical keyboard is pretty grand to type on, too. After my recent conversion to mechanical keyboards, the GT75VR deepened my love of them even further, despite the half-height Enter key and slightly squished-in number pad on the side. The individual RGB-lit keys are perhaps a bit much, if I’m honest – I’d be tempted to charge people to come and see the disco mode lightshow (see below) and put the proceeds toward buying this damn machine – but thankfully all illumination can be adjusted or turned off completely using SteelSeries’ easy-to-use Engine software. Throw in a large, responsive touchpad and dedicated right and left mouse buttons and you couldn’t possibly ask for more.

MSI GT75VR keyboard

Well, there are a few more things I’d like. Quieter fans, for one, as these kick up quite a fuss when playing games. This is to be expected, of course, and I’ve yet to see a laptop even as ludicrous as this one offer a better, more ear-friendly solution. Indeed, the GT75VR’s 2.1 speaker system does a reasonable job of masking the fact this might actually be a jet engine in disguise about to take off through your window, but while the speakers are certainly better than other tin jobs I’ve seen, nothing truly captures the throaty death moans of Doom demons quite like a proper headset. The wrist rest and touchpad are also prone to picking up greasy fingerprints, marring its otherwise top notch build quality.

Then, of course, you remember the GT75VR costs £3099 and all those hopes and dreams fly out the window again. There is a slightly cheaper version with less storage for £2,598 from Scan, but still, it was nice to think about while it lasted, eh? All joking aside, though, the GT75VR could well be a reasonable investment if you were a developer, for instance, and needed something powerful enough to take on the road to shows and conventions to showcase your game, particularly if you needed it for VR. For everyone else, though, go and apologise to your current PC and we’ll pretend this conversation never happened.


  1. quotidian says:

    “Failed to specify” usually means tn panel in my experience, though that experience is admittedly not with ludicrously expensive laptops. How are the viewing angles? Is there noticable shift in colors if you change the vertical angles?

  2. Douchetoevsky says:

    This just seems like a “worst of both worlds” situation to me. Even in the hypothetical with the game dev showing off a demo a desktop would be a better choice unless you wanted the player to be playing specifically on a laptop for some reason.

    Cool tech sure, but I don’t understand who would want this for any practical reason.

    • Don Reba says:

      Cool tech sure, but I don’t understand who would want this for any practical reason.

      People who need a laptop for work and don’t want a separate computer for gaming.

      • Douchetoevsky says:

        In that case, props to people who can figure out how to blow this much money as a write off.

        • Don Reba says:

          It’s not a lot of money for someone with a middle-class income, really. For people likely to be working on a laptop.

          • ColonelFlanders says:

            I have a middle class income of about £45,000 (my partner earns about the same) and that is total nonsense. It IS a lot of money no matter how rich you are; people who are wealthy don’t get wealthy by spending all of their money, especially on frivolous shit like this. If you want to argue that someone (an insane person in my view) doesn’t want to spend almost half the money on a functional work laptop AND a shit-hot gaming PC then fine, but I challenge you to find more than 3 of these unicorn people.

            I can tell you the kind of people that will buy this laptop are not the kind of people who make savvy spending decisions. They are the kind of person who will get this on finance so they can show off to their gamer friends. It’s a sad reality of these ULTRA GAMING EXPERIENCES; anyone who actually wants to game doesn’t buy this hooey.

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            Earl-Grey says:

            Sure, if your only care in the world is yourself then feel free to fart your money away on this sort of thing.

            But show me the middle class parent and homeowner who can piss away £3100 on a gaming “laptop”.
            Seriously, show me, they’re clearly drug dealers on the side and I could use some of the good stuff to help me forget about my debt.

            Hah, sure 6-7% of your annual income before taxes is “not a lot of money”, must be nice in that bubble.

          • Don Reba says:

            By middle-class income, I meant more like $100K. An average C++ programmer’s salary in the States is about $110K. I should’ve been more specific.

          • GeoX says:

            people who are wealthy don’t get wealthy by spending all of their money, especially on frivolous shit like this.

            …so the argument here is that wealth is entirely or largely earned and that rich people are all super-rational. Huh. I would ask how long you’ve been in a coma, but I’m not sure there’s actually been ANY historical period anywhere where any of that was remotely true.

      • Ericusson says:

        I have the gt73VR bought a year ago.
        I travel for extensive priods of time with lots of downtime regularly and I game a lot.

        Having waited a year for the 1080 allows awesome gaming on he run though the weight is a britches for sure.

        I bought it in Asia and had no choice but to have the 4K version which the 1080 handles well enough for anything these days. But MSI has real problem in quality control and the screen suffers too much bleeding if used at maximum luminosity in dark settings.

        The laptop is noisy when using its full on fans which keep things at about 60C. But that is kind of the common things in all laptops for gaming.
        At least it’s form factor allows for a full on ventilation and high performance.

        Keyboard is great to use even if not mechanical.
        I actually like it more than my mechanical corsair I use at home along with a 3440 screen.

        Over all, a big investment that gives effective mobility and the best performance there is in gaming.

      • BeardyHat says:

        No one would buy this as a legitimate work/home machine, you can’t lug this monstrosity around easily. Not to mention the cost.

        I bought a used Razer Blade 14 and have been using it as a work/gaming machine and it’s fantastic for the job. Lightweight, compact and somewhat business looking; I’d get nothing but laughs if I lugged this thing into a meeting, “Ok, let me take the meeting notes” *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK*. Not to mention, I’d like to see you fit this thing into a normal sized laptop bag and carry it around all day.

        This is in no way a business machine, you’d be laughed out of any remotely professional job you showed up to with this.

        • Cederic says:

          I wouldn’t use this for work (unless I needed a portable server stand-in) but I did use to buy laptops of this ilk when I was working away from home for four nights a week.

          Take it to lodgings, use there all week, bring it home.

    • Mindful Robot says:

      It indeed seems an ideal machine for showing a VR demo *on the road*. Much better than a desktop for this. But yes, a narrow niche :-)

      • MajorLag says:

        Is it? You can build a desktop capable of doing VR in a similar form factor for less. The biggest clunkiest part of VR is the VR rig anyway.

    • Dynamique says:

      This just seems like a “worst of both worlds” situation to me

      Absolutely. It sure is difficult to find a “decent” mobile device to serve both as a gaming rig AND portable (!) type-o-surf-thing – yet this… What is it made for? A more portable solution for… LAN-parties? To hook up with various TVs at your friends houses (aka… Console)?

      • CMaster says:

        There’s actually a fair few “Gaming ultraportables” these days.
        The Razer Blade is the headline grabber, but there’s also stuff like the Gigabyte Aero 14 (and their P34 series), and a few MSI and maybe dell/alienware options too.

        • Dynamique says:

          Thanks for the overview! Seems like the market has improved in recent years. Yet there still is some mobility-performance-price tradeoff when considering the “one device (or not)” upgrade route…

        • Ericusson says:

          All the slim laptops and especially the razor cannot use the enclosed hardware to its full load because of heat dissipation issues.

          If you are looking for performance over portability, these laptops will let you down both in term or performance but mostly longevity.

    • Richard_from_Winnipeg says:

      I used to work in a Northern Manitoba work camp (hours from civilization). 12 hour days at a good wage, with double times on weekends for 3 weeks straight.

      In the dorm there were risks of fires from surrounding forests. You were instructed to not grab anything if a fire alarm went off.

      I was considering a new computer and I wanted a desktop but the camp issue and the constant packing and moving around made a laptop more ideal.

      This is the kind of laptop for specialists working in remote locations where money is no issue. But I also have a girlfriend and do the game: “adulting”. But for young guys who don’t have girlfriends, blowing $7k on a laptop, that’s reasonable. Better than blowing $80 a day on smokes/chew or $80k on a truck you never use.

      • Don Reba says:

        But I also have a girlfriend and do the game: “adulting”.

        Don’t you have to be married for adultery?

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          Risingson says:

          I’m still amazed of that concept of having a partner as growing up. Maybe it is the opposite. If being mature means leaving things that you like to do in your spare time, you are doing this wrong.

          (Having said that, oh how lucky I am to have found a guy that loves videogames, sci fi, cinema, cooking and going to clubs until they kick you out as much as I do.)

          • gunny1993 says:

            People who say that are just unhappy with their lives and have decided that the reason they’re no longer having any fun is because they’re growing up.

            As bokon wrote: maturity is a bitter disappointment, for which no cure exists

          • Sleepy Will says:

            I guess the point is, when you have a partner who is a part of your life enough to be a part of your finances, you can’t drop £3000 on anything without consulting them, and maybe they are trying to save up for something – I’m sure you can agree, in this reasonably common scenario, the immature thing would be to buy it anyway, the mature thing is to make a sacrifice, perhaps a £1500 laptop, so that your partner can also get the thing they want.

          • MajorLag says:

            Our modern societal metric for “adult” is based on the realities of generations past that no longer apply. That’s the reason we get this narrative that “kids these days” are taking longer to “grow up”. There isn’t the same cultural pressure to get married and have kids, economic realities make it much harder to be home owners, etc.

          • funderbolt says:

            Perfect example of my long-standing advice to couples: keep your finances separate. No joint accounts. So many break up over finances and it doesn’t need to be this way. Even people who are married and live together need space and need to be individuals, need some privacy, need a couple of secrets even, so long as they’re not big ones. Once the bills are paid, my missus and I couldn’t give a flip what each other spends our money on. One less thing to worry about. To me this seems more mature than just subsuming one’s identity into the “us”.

          • Sleepy Will says:

            @funderbolt – That sounds grand in theory – but do you literally buy your own sofa’s, your own tv’s, your own beds and your own houses?

            There are somethings that are not practical to own two of, and somethings that are ludicrus to split – do you each do your own groceries, for example?

            If no, then you have intertwined your finances, whether you have kept seperate accounts or not.

            Sometimes it’s more esoteric than buying shared stuff… One of the great strengths of being a member of a family is you can use the support of your family to do things you could never achieve alone – my partner for example wanted to do a years course to qualify her to do the job she wanted. Who can afford a year of no work? A member of a family, that’s who. We will always sacrifice things to help our family, and there is an intrinsic value to the things we sacrifice – I’m, not disputing your advise, it’s excellent – so long as you don’t turn it into a mantra, and literally live your life by it.

            By the way, how many of these breakups you know of due to finances were due to finances – or was it just the last straw in a relationship that was not going to survive anyway?

            Also, subsuming identities…. er, no… you can share finances without being a controlling pos. If a couple have subsumed into an “us”, rather than individuals, it’s because independantly of their financial arrangements that’s how they desire to be, or one of them is abusive. Independant of finances.

          • Sleepy Will says:

            An example of what I’m trying to say:

            You and your partner are two different people, with different aesthetic sensibilities, different ways of using the things in your house, different tolerances for little things that don’t work quite as you like. One day, one of you says to the other, “Hey, I’m getting sick of _thing_ because _reason_” (Say Fridge, because it keeps condensing over my sanwiches, or sofa, because the spring hurts my posterior, or mattress, because I would prefer a sprung one, or washing machine, because I would like one that matches the rest of the kitchen)

            This is, I would estimate in a normal family a 4 or 5 times a year occurance.

            So, at that point, how do you keep your finances seperate without causing resentment. I can think:

            You want a new one, you buy it entirely on your own? Then you end up with one resenting the other because they seem to be making more of the major purchases than the other, who is enjoying all the new things and buying themselves all the toys. Whether it’s true or not, there is a major risk of this perception.

            One wants a new one, so we go 50-50? Therefore, the one who decided they want to change something has a major influence on the other’s finances.

            One wants a new one, but we don’t get it until the other agrees – resentment central – why am I still eating soggy sandwiches, so they can have their £3000 laptop.

            We all know that in a relationship, you communicate and compromise, but it’s that compromise that I’m refering to as linked finances.It’s that compromise that says that you ask your partner before spending a silly amount of money on a toy, if anything in the house needs that money more. It’s that compromise that says your finances are partially your partners business, because, as you point out – people are individuals, and that’s why you need to respect your partners individuality, by not assuming they don’t think anything needs work or replacing, by not assuming that they don’t want to start saving for something, by not assuming that everything is so perfect for them as you.

          • funderbolt says:

            @ Sleepy Will
            I should have been more specific I suppose – housing expenses, food, even large purchases all fall under the category of “bills”. The fridge example is entirely part of this. She says “hey, we need a new fridge.” I say “cool, let’s do that.” And then we both put aside some money until we can afford it. She still gets the fridge earlier than she would have if she was on her own. It doesn’t impact my finances in the way you might expect because I just see this as another expense to be handled before I start thinking about more frivolous purchases, same as if something suddenly happened to my car (knock on wood) that required several hundred bucks to repair. I just shrug my shoulders and accept that I’m not getting the New Shiny Thing that I want as soon as I want it. I’m talking about disposable income once those things are paid for, that’s what needs to be kept separate. I absolutely agree with you about being able to lean on family when the time comes; humans have always done better in mutually beneficial groups. Loners tend not to make it very long.

            As to finances breaking couples up: No one will really know why two people ultimately split except those people, but financial stress that could have been avoided certainly doesn’t help. When my lady and I met, this is something we set out very early on, that we absolutely don’t want to quarrel about money, and we agreed that the concept of “our” money is something to be avoided for the most part. Thing is, it’s a very informal arrangement – she picks up the bar tab one night, I get the next one, etc. but we never ever keep track, that’s the key. I didn’t bat an eyelash when she dropped $300 the other day on clothes that (in my opinion) she didn’t really need, because I knew it would make her happy, and she didn’t blink when I “blew” $400 on an Oculus Rift that I certainly didn’t need, cuz she knew it would make me happy.

          • Don Reba says:

            Now, look what you’ve done. You turned my adultery joke into a family advice conversation. I hope you’re happy.

          • Richard_from_Winnipeg says:

            @Don Reba: my impression of the game adultery is that the first few levels are enthralling but the later levels are a nightmare and the last levels even worst.

            @Risingson: I somewhat implied that maturity and joviality are opposed but that’s not what I meant. At least for myself. I love gaming and dancing and volunteering and lots of things. I don’t have enough time for everything I enjoy. By not buying a gaming laptop I ended up pairing a GTX970 with my older Lenovo via a Beast EGPU dock. And then I rented a 430 HP Mustang on a recent trip. And I went to Calgary for a dance congress. And I serve at a local shelter. I certainly can play games all I want I just choose different forms of leisure, dare I say better forms of leisure. And there’s also the sense that a partner may actually aggravate a person in ways that morally enlighten and benefit.

            @Gunny: I’m quite happy with my life. And I couldn’t find Bokuon, but I think you meant Vonnegut? Although yes, age does bitter some.

            @Funderbolt: That works for low commitment scenarios but for large commitments it doesn’t. Who wants to be paying a mortgage without having your name on the title? Or giving food to someone that is building long term home equity. Or maybe you each have different retirement plans… And then in the long run differing levels of lifestyle ends up being problematic when savings are different. The saver ends up financing the end of life for the spender – or the spender is just dropped. It doesn’t work in the long run. But in the short term, sure. And we are a short term seeing society now a days.

            And I don’t know where to put this but my girlfriend is awesome and I don’t regret that I’ve only played maybe 20 hours of PC games this year. It doesn’t make sense for me to spend that much on a laptop, even though I could, when I wouldn’t actually use it.

          • Don Reba says:

            And I don’t know where to put this but my girlfriend is awesome and I don’t regret that I’ve only played maybe 20 hours of PC games this year.

            I’m guessing “please help, I am being held hostage” is encrypted somewhere in the long message.

    • Ham Solo says:

      People who are at their barracks or second flat during the week because the drive home is too long. Plus deployment.

    • Sleepy Will says:

      Wheelchair users, such as myself, who sometimes are stuck in a room for a few days – we find these preposterous laptops really very useful!

      I’m not so naive as to think this is a machine designed to be purchased though – it’s more to make their middle road gaming laptops look like a better deal.

    • Chorltonwheelie says:

      People are paying a grand for a pocket telephone.

      This will sell to a) captives of the ‘reality distortion field’ and b) people who may actually need it.

  3. Tiax says:

    It still baffles me that some buyers are ok dropping such a sum only to play in 1080p. I guess you can always connect an extra monitor with a higher resolution, but then why did you bought a laptop?

    With 3’100 pounds I could probably build two mini-atx PC that would run just as fast.

  4. zulnam says:

    3099£? Seriously? You can build a beast of a PC with that kind of money, on thermal cooling, and still have 1k to spare.

    • Caiman says:

      Yes, but could you carry it as hand luggage on a plane (including its monitor)? I’m guessing not. Hence the laptop part. Mind you, even I think this is probably a bit much! Actually the main problem with most gaming laptops is they look ridiculous (this thing looks like the 60’s era Batmobile). I prefer stealth power these days, and at 1080p most games run just great with a 1060 or a 1070.

    • Raoul Duke says:

      More comparably, you can get a very, very nice laptop with a 1060 or 1070 in it that will still murder just about any game at 1080p from the very same manufacturer for much less money and in a much less stupid form factor.

      Specifically, a GS73VR or similar – very fast/high refresh rate screen, 1060, lovely size and build quality, also available in 4k, much, much cheaper.

      • RaymondQSmuckles says:

        GS73VR owner, checking in. Runs everything I could want (so far) in Ultra @1080p, with its GTX1060. Very thin, very light machine. Only real qualms with it are subpar trackpad (having transitioned from Apple’s MBP trackpad), and basically non-existent battery life. But, apartments are small in Tokyo and having a 17″ gaming beast I can hide away when a guest is over, or enjoy relatively large movie experiences with the GF… has been a true joy. Plus, its power affords me the luxury of studying 3D modeling/rendering, Unity development, and fast compiles in Visual Studio. And hell, it is a laptop after all so I have the genuine (not “theoretical”) option to lug it to local cafes from time to time. I give it a big thumbs up

        • Raoul Duke says:

          Yep, as you will have guessed, I have one too. It’s a very balanced machine. Mine is primarily a work laptop, and I love its power and screen for that, but it’s lovely to be able to run current generation games full tilt on a decent sized screen when I feel like it, too. And as you say, it’s genuinely portable despite its screen size.

  5. Zhiroc says:

    I notice people are comparing prices to what they can build a desktop for. It’s fair to compare to a desktop, though I myself will never buy another desktop–once you stop living in mainly one room, portability is key. But in any case, I believe a very small fraction of people will build a desktop, so prices should be compared to commercially available PCs. I’m even a software professional IRL, and yet I have neither the time, interest, or confidence to build a PC.

    • brucethemoose says:

      Prebuilts still have a big price advantage. Enough of one where you also could get a separate, thin laptop (or even a Ryzen one for light gaming on battery) that’s much easier to travel with for the same money

      TBH building yourself doesn’t even save THAT much money. The price advantage basically comes from re-using old stuff (most commonly Windows licenses and hard drives), overclocking (which isn’t as helpful as it used to be) and buying certain parts used or during massive price drops. And you can get that last advantage with prebuilts (used/clearance workstations in particular are a goldmine, companies seem to dump them en masse for nothing).

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        Nauallis says:

        Two other things to add to this that are advantages of a self-build: 1) it feels really good to build one, even if it’s not a crazy powerhouse; and 2) you can optimize your machine (and your budget) for whatever specific needs you have.

        Yes, you can get pre-builds that do #2, but I’d wager most people who care about some specific wishlist of features are going to spend just as much time trying to customize a pre-build as they would simply researching parts or asking for help with a build list.

        On the other hand a custom-build laptop is basically a pipe dream.

    • fish99 says:

      For this money you could get a great desktop, a very capable gaming laptop (which wouldn’t weigh 4.5 Kg) and have enough change to buy a decent Steam library. That is so heavy it’s barely portable.

    • Dinger says:

      Portability is key. That’s why I have a couple 13″ ultrabooks for when I’m on the road. Productivity also matters, and I have a desktop workstation and probably will be building a new one in the coming months.
      Ultimately, they’re all tools for the job. I went through a couple periods where I was on the move quite a bit (and living in one room at a time), and so my primary PC at those times was a heavy desktop replacement laptop with a top-end graphics card. They worked well (even for something approaching game development), except that both of them eventually died of cancer of the motherboard (aka “Thermal Issues”). If it’s your primary caregiver, every week over 18 months is a bonus.
      If you need one PC to do everything, and that PC has to be portable, you might see this as worth your while. You never know when you’ll need to encode video in the field.
      That said, you might want a second screen for the home.
      By the way, MSI’s own page pretty much states that their panels are TNs.

      • brucethemoose says:

        “encode video”

        Thin laptops are suprisingly good at that now, thanks to the encoder blocks built into their chips. You can squeeze a better bitrate out with the CPU, but then again you don’t always need that last 10 or 20 percent.

        • Dinger says:

          You could have just been polite and noted that the last time high-performance PCs mattered for video encoding, most current RPS readers were in diapers.

  6. Xzi says:

    They seriously put a 1080p screen on a laptop with a GTX 1080? They couldn’t even spring for 1440p? The only good use for this would be hooked up to an external display, so I hardly see the point in paying the ridiculous laptop price markup.

  7. baud001 says:

    That’s funny how the kidney-selling price metric crosses the social boundaries since I’ve heard it multiples time on the other side of the Channel.

    • Seafoam says:

      I think it’s because its pretty much the only organ you can sell without complications. Although it is a fantastic expression.

  8. Superfluper says:

    MSI GT75VR Titan Pro

    That is the most expensive ssounding name I’ve seen in a while

  9. woodsey says:

    It looks like a nuclear briefcase designed by a guy who sells knock-off Ferrari merchandise from the back of a van.

    I think I’ll take my imaginary £3000 elsewhere.

  10. HumpX says:

    Too. much. goddamned. money.

  11. zephram says:

    You PC elitists are so narrow minded, “why would anyone want to slum it with 1080p” ; “Why would anyone choose to game on a laptop”. People have their reasons, like who needs 4k unless you have a giant screen, I’ll take smooth framerate; I don’t personally have room for a desktop, given that my laptop sits on a bedside table; I don’t want to deal with attachments, and I like the form factor of a laptop.

    • Don Reba says:

      who needs 4k unless you have a giant screen

      Just about anyone with a screen larger than 14″. 4k still gives you only 300dpi at 14.6″. 300dpi is about minimum for a decent print.

      • gwathdring says:

        Static text on a page output by a laser printer or an inkjet printer and moving images output on an LCD are very different things.

        The best way to tell if you need 4k is to 1) Try it out somewhere or 2) Get tired of 1080p all on your own.

        For folks who have done neither or those two things, blathering on about how important 4k is to the viewing experience just makes you look silly.

        I have a screen larger than 14.” I’ve had a screen larger than 14″ since before 1080p was the standard. I don’t feel the need to have a larger screen than my current 21″ screen and I was honestly pretty happy with the 17″ one that replaced when it started not working so great.

        I’m quite happy not to bother with 4k yet. I don’t understand why people explicitly telling you they don’t care that much about 4k is so hard for you to understand. But I suppose you did some math and that proves that people’s preferences are .. what, exactly? Not yours?

      • Grubenfuerst says:

        Good comparison – oh wait, no, no it’s not. Last time I checked, what people need was still entirely up to them.

        • Don Reba says:

          You’re mixing up needs and wants there.

          • Sleepy Will says:

            Wait… you are saying people who don’t want 4k need it? Are you sure it’s not you who is mixing up want and need?

          • Don Reba says:

            I’m saying that what people need is not up to them by definition.

      • ColonelFlanders says:

        link to

        I’ll just leave that here to demonstrate the viewing distance you need to not miss the point.

    • ThePuzzler says:

      I’d have thought the guy with the £3000 laptop was the elitist…

      (Though I do understand there’s a market for powerful + reasonably portable. If I wanted to do game development work on a PC that I could easily chuck in the car and take to the office with me, something like this would be a good option.)

    • ColonelFlanders says:

      literally one person complained about 1080p

  12. gwathdring says:

    I had one of those massive ASUS ROG laptops and I was quite happy with it. But it cost a lot less money and it was a lot less heavy. It was *still* barely what I would consider portable. For someone who was moving around a lot and needed something portable but was also gaming, audio editing and scientific computation, I really appreciated having that much oompf in a backpack despite the hassle.

    I couldn’t see myself getting this even if it were the same price, though. And it looks like it’s about twice the weight and more than twice the price. :P

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    phuzz says:

    It’s nice that twin NVMe SSDs in RAID 0 give you all the iops, but even a decent SATA SSD is fast enough to cut down loading times enough that waiting for all the bloody logos is what takes the longest when starting a game.

    • Emu says:

      I am surprised that MSI cheaped out on the SSDs and didn’t stick in 2 Samsung 960 Pros/Evos which would seperately give the same speed as the pair in this machine.

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    Risingson says:

    I would not resell it if I got it, but all about this laptop sounds to me like “diminishing returns”. It’s perfectly fine to have something for work and gaming, but I wonder if the hardware specifications are not a bit overblown for what it actually is.

    Also: it is ugly as a Clive Barker creature.

  15. Madcowe says:

    I think this one Jeremy mentioned last year might still take the biscuit for preposterousness, what with its 2 desktop 1080s.
    link to

  16. 4004 says:

    probably one of the less balanced machines with a 1080. Much better devices with 1080 available, for similar amount of money, and MUCH better portability/design. Well, at least you get decent cooling in such a package.

  17. melerski says:

    I’ll take two then because I’m in the lucky position of having two kidneys.

  18. FesterSilently says:

    Okay, a few things here:

    1. I agree with whomever it was what complained about the 1080p screen for the price. I’ve got a similarly-priced gaming laptop with a (g-sync, even!) 1440p screen, and wouldn’t have it any other way, especially for the price.

    2. I originally went the way of (pricey, heavy) gaming laptops about eight years back, when I (re)joined the military, because: sporadic travel for extended periods of time, especially to places that are tight on space.

    3. I’m not sure why I don’t see more (or *any*) articles on Sager (Clevo, outside of the United States), design-em-yourself laptops. Mainly because: I spent nearly the same amount of money ($3,100 US dollars), and got (IMHO) a much more well-rounded (semi)portable gaming computer than the one mentioned in this article.

    To wit:

    Sager NP9873

    17″ 2560×1440, G-sync, TN (I know…) panel

    Intel i7-7700k (desktop CPU)

    16GBs DDR4 PC3000

    nVidia GTX1080/8GBs GDDR5X

    1TB Samsung 960 Pro (primary)

    1TB Samsung 850 Evo (secondary)

    So, it’s definitely a beefy, powerful rig for gaming, or whatever I might need; and, yes, it’s heavier than most other laptops, and, yes, it’s got a weighty brick-on-a-leash, but: a) it’s *not* drastically different in price than a comparable desktop, and b) once it’s nestled in its backpack, it ain’t that big a deal to lug around.

    TL;DR: anecdotally, I can vouch for the power, portability, and (relative) cost-efficiency of big gaming laptops. Just…*not* the particular MSI model mentioned in this article. ;)

  19. fray_bentos says:

    People will look back at this article in a few years and snigger.

  20. Boozebeard says:

    I have something similar to this, in terms of size, power and battery life. They are useful for people who need/want power but need/want to be able to stick it in a backpack and take it else where. As someone who is living abroad and works remotely as a free lance 3D artist, the combination of power and the fact that I can take it on a plane as hand luggage is invaluable. I can still go home and visit family for extended periods and be able to continue working (and gaming) comfortably. I can also go to and from co-working spaces. I get that 5kg is heavy for a laptop these days but it’s really not that much weight to have in a backpack. With all my gear in my backpack it weighs in at about 10KG and I can walk around with it no problem, and I’m not a big guy at all.

    Though I would say one of the main reasons I went with the machine I did was because it has a fully fledged desktop CPU in it (i7-6700k @ 4.2GHZ). Paying that much for something of this size and still being limited to desktop CPU speeds certainly makes less sense.

  21. FesterSilently says:

    Okay, a few things here:

    1. I agree with whomever it was what complained about the 1080p screen for the price. I’ve got a similarly-priced gaming laptop with a (g-sync, even!) 1440p screen, and wouldn’t have it any other way, especially for the price.

    2. Having said that, I (further) agree with the person wot said: if you’re only gonna have a 1080p screen, there’s no reason to waste the cash/thermals on a GTX1080; an GTX1060 will get the job done just fine, and save you quite a bit of dosh, to boot.

    3. I originally went the way of (pricey, heavy) gaming laptops about eight years back, when I (re)joined the military, because: sporadic travel for extended periods of time, especially to places that are tight on space.

    4. I’m not sure why I don’t see more (or *any*) articles on Sager (Clevo, outside of the United States), design-em-yourself laptops. Here’s why: I spent nearly the same amount of money ($3,100 US dollars), and got (IMHO) a much more well-rounded (semi)portable gaming computer than the one mentioned in this article.

    To wit:

    Sager NP9873

    17″ 2560×1440, G-sync, TN (I know…) panel

    Intel i7-7700k (desktop CPU)

    16GBs DDR4 PC3000

    nVidia GTX1080/8GBs GDDR5X

    1TB Samsung 960 Pro (primary)

    1TB Samsung 850 Evo (secondary)

    So, it’s definitely a beefy, powerful rig for gaming, or whatever I might need; but, yes, it’s heavier than most other laptops, and, yes, it’s got a weighty brick-on-a-leash, but: a) it’s *not* drastically different in price than a comparable desktop, and b) once it’s nestled in its backpack, it ain’t that big a deal to lug around.

    TL;DR: I can – anecdotally – vouch for the power, (relative) portability, and (relative) cost-efficiency of big gaming laptops. Just…*not* the particular MSI model mentioned in this article. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • Cederic says:

      I still have two Clevo laptops. They’re still very fast and very capable machines, and they’re also now 10 and 14 years old.

      MSI always did come in more expensive for comparable specs, so although the keyboard’s a clear bonus on this one if I was in the market I’d be looking Clevo again.

  22. geldonyetich says:

    I’ll shell out for portable hardware at that price just as soon as somebody perfects the cyberware version. At that point, hardly even need to pay rent anymore: I’ve got the roof I need over my computer, and that roof is me.

  23. daver4470 says:

    I have the older, lesser version of this, the GT73VR 7RE. Which has the same i7-7820 @ 2.9 and the 120hz screen, but “only” 16mb of memory and a GTX 1070. (It also does not have the twin SSDs in RAID — just a single 256.)

    It is big. It is bulky. It is not easily transportable. The fans are very loud (although they do an excellent job of cooling –
    I’ve never even approached a potential overheat situation.) But it lets me play whatever I want to play on the couch, for which I love it. It really does scream through stuff — as you’re not running 4k graphics, framerates even at high settings are typically no problem for the 1070. Onboard sound is surprisingly decent. MSI bundles these with the Killer ethernet adapter software, which is terrible and which you should uninstall immediately. It runs an Oculus Rift without any hiccups or compromises. The keyboard is nice, and the LEDs are entertaining, occasionally. There’s no optical drive included, nor is there a bay for one onboard. If you want one, you need to get a USB or Thunderbird external drive.

    It’s a nice machine, and I think I’ll get a lot of use out of it. On the other hand, I didn’t pay £3000 for this… I got it for US$2300 (about £1750), which makes it a lot more palatable.

    Edit: Just wanted to note that if you’re only going to use the laptop monitor, there are few compelling reasons to shell out for the GTX 1080. Maybe if you need to do lots of CUDA processing or something… but if you need that, you’re probably doing it on a specialized desktop already. A GTX 1060 will probably drive the 1080p screen just fine with almost anything you could throw at it. You’ll only need the 1080 if you intend to push video through the HDMI port to a much larger 4k monitor.