View Full Version : Neptune's Pride: Space is the Place

06-06-2011, 10:06 PM
Neptune's Pride is this (http://np.ironhelmet.com/) and Quinns wrote about it here (http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2010/02/column_battle_klaxon_the_i.php) and the RPS game diary is here (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/03/18/the-complete-pride-and-falls/) and this (http://www.fanboy.com/archive-images/hello-kitty-cat-clothing-01.jpg) is an unrelated picture.

I've got credits for a premium game. Would anyone be interested?

Update: The game has started. If you're in it, you can access it here (http://np.ironhelmet.com/detail?game=24578297).

Second Update: That game's over. The player diaries start on page 6.

06-06-2011, 10:35 PM
I really want to, I'm just very nervous that I'll end up hating everybody :$

07-06-2011, 12:20 AM
I can't promise you it won't happen.

07-06-2011, 12:24 AM
Literally ended up not talking to a friend of mine for months last time I played...

07-06-2011, 10:00 PM
I sound too negative there. I'd quite like to play.

08-06-2011, 01:04 AM
I appreciate your facing and overcoming a previous trauma.

Anyone else? Any requests? The game can fit up to 12 people if inexplicably surging interest requires it.

08-06-2011, 05:18 AM
*inexplicably surges*

It's been some time since I've last played (only did play the two games back when) so if I can't remember my login I may have to remake one.

Long and the short of it is please hold me a spot, but bear with me while I find out who I am.

09-06-2011, 01:01 AM
Just doing a bit of light reading, is this one of the premium games where we do need 10 credits to join, or don't?

09-06-2011, 01:35 AM
It'll be free to join. I guess I'll start it soon with 12 players and normal settings, unless there are objections.

09-06-2011, 02:04 AM
Fine with me - should I be keeping an eye on this thread to make sure I join in time, or where?

09-06-2011, 02:31 AM
You know what, I'll just create it now.

Here you go! (http://np.ironhelmet.com/detail?game=24578297)

12 players, normal settings, no alliances. Password is cattywampus.

It's open to everyone, but please only join if you plan on keeping up with the game.

09-06-2011, 02:38 AM
Cheers - and I can see why you doubt people will guess it ;)

Neptune's Pride always struck me as interesting in that while it's utterly impossible to win without dealing with someone, alliances 'to the end' are doomed to betrayal.

As I found out in my first game >_>

I prefer to make more reasonable time-based ones now, since they let me be genuinely honorable ^_^

09-06-2011, 10:16 PM
Not alliances with me. I will honor those until the end of time; you have my word.

sinister agent
09-06-2011, 10:46 PM
Cheers - and I can see why you doubt people will guess it ;)

Neptune's Pride always struck me as interesting in that while it's utterly impossible to win without dealing with someone, alliances 'to the end' are doomed to betrayal.

As I found out in my first game >_>

I prefer to make more reasonable time-based ones now, since they let me be genuinely honorable ^_^

Not necessarily. In one game I played, it was so clear that one person had won, and as I was the only person in a position to attack him but didn't want to (I would have lost, and besides, I liked him) and there were no real enmities between the others, we all agreed to declare him the winner, us the joint runners up, then balance sides and have a big 2 on 2 showdown.

It was a nice end to a really fun game. It did help that the four of us had teamed up to take out the previous leader (who had been an ally of mine until he accused me of plotting against him, and tried to strongarm me. Whereupon I shrugged and called everyone else in the game to unite against him. Fun times AND a clear conscience!), mind.

Peter Radiator Full Pig
10-06-2011, 11:27 AM
Its been over a year since I played. Hope it hasnt changed that much since then.

10-06-2011, 01:12 PM
I'm in!


10-06-2011, 01:22 PM
Its been over a year since I played. Hope it hasnt changed that much since then.

It's been about the same for me. Just popped into another game for some practice and I haven't spotted any differences yet.

10-06-2011, 01:28 PM
I'll join! Can't get enough of this game, and stress, obviously. I love being stressed and not sleeping.

10-06-2011, 01:38 PM
I don't think the game is ever updated.

DaN: I should have your sig.

10-06-2011, 02:04 PM
I'm in, Rakysh1 is the radical and maverick decision for a nick. I expect to become whipping boy in fairly short order; I doubt I'll be very good.

10-06-2011, 02:10 PM
If you can, try not to start the game at an unreasonable time for us europeans.

10-06-2011, 02:30 PM
Or us Aussies, really.

10-06-2011, 03:03 PM
Aha! It's mine! I thought of having it when there was that gearbox press release about something, can't remember what exactly. Come on peope join up for some free stress! Also if you join now get sleepless nights for free!

man-eater chimp
10-06-2011, 07:08 PM
In like sting. (I'm 'Mechimp')

Peter Radiator Full Pig
10-06-2011, 09:32 PM
Oh, if we have time, we should make speed expensive. Once speed gets to too high a level, it becomes a game about who can log on more often, and naught else.

10-06-2011, 09:53 PM
If you can, try not to start the game at an unreasonable time for us europeans.

Out of my hands, I'm afraid. It automatically starts when the last person joins. One spot left, by the way.

Oh, if we have time, we should make speed expensive. Once speed gets to too high a level, it becomes a game about who can log on more often, and naught else.

That's a good point. Unfortunately, I'd have to delete and restart the game to create new settings.

10-06-2011, 10:27 PM
Hopefully the next player will join during the day/evening tomorrow, and now within the next seven hours.

11-06-2011, 12:29 AM
Someone join already - the game hasn't even started and already I'm checking every couple of hours to see if there's a surprise :P

...this doesn't bode well for the next couple of months ^_^

Alex Bakke
11-06-2011, 12:48 AM
I would like to make a humble request that the next person to join joins at 1700GMT, in order for everyone to be awake.

11-06-2011, 01:20 AM
...aside from me...

11-06-2011, 05:33 AM
it's starting!
how inconvenient.

i suspect scheming on the part of convict-descendants ¨_¨

11-06-2011, 05:53 AM
First time I'm playing this with my new and improved screen. It looks so good in 1920x1080!

11-06-2011, 06:34 AM
it's starting!
how inconvenient.

i suspect scheming on the part of convict-descendants ¨_¨

Heh, you flatter me.

Besides, I was on at 4 this morning getting a fix of Scourge of War - a few more painfully early mornings won't kill me :P

EDIT: Reminds me, reason I came on here is to ask: are we looking at doing some kind of AAR for this one?

11-06-2011, 07:19 AM
Hi guys! I'm the last player, and it's entirely my fault we started when we did! Sorry 'bout that. Didn't know everyone here was from Europe or Australia! Looking forward to this game :)

11-06-2011, 08:34 AM
That's ok! Only those weaklings that actually need to sleep will be affected.

I'm writing a diary for this, if only to have a place to vent without spilling beans to anyone. If others do it, it might be nice to compile them in the end. Take screenshots too!

man-eater chimp
11-06-2011, 09:04 AM
Ah well it's only a couple of hours disadvantage, which isn't the end of the world!

I'm up for making a diary of this game as well, sounds like it could be quite entertaining.

11-06-2011, 09:14 AM
Me too! I'll definitely start doing that!

Alex Bakke
11-06-2011, 11:46 AM
Urgh, getting up at 5AM for the next three months max, then.

11-06-2011, 12:23 PM
Outstanding, I'll do my best to keep a daily then.

Possibly missing a few as things get boring - if that happens, which I doubt.

At the end of it we should probably piece it all together in a thread of its own if nowhere else - so we can read through and see what everyone else was up to.

11-06-2011, 01:31 PM
And away we go.

I say this literally every time, but yes, I'll try to jot down some thoughts about the game.

11-06-2011, 02:11 PM
If nothing else (or you're in a hurry), take a few screen shots and save them under the day so there's something to piece together later.

That's my plan anyway ;)

Peter Radiator Full Pig
11-06-2011, 05:12 PM
Legatus, off to a devilish start already! I love it. I might write up on it if others are too, but I wont be bothering with screenshots. Too much fiddiling. Yes, I am that lazy.

11-06-2011, 05:48 PM
I'm running greenshot, which means i can just hit ctrl + printscreen and it will automatically save it in .png format with the time/date attached in a screenshots folder :D

11-06-2011, 06:15 PM
Yeah I'm using greenshot too. Quite convenient!

11-06-2011, 07:03 PM
Will do my best.

14-06-2011, 05:19 PM
I like how this thread has gone dead.

man-eater chimp
14-06-2011, 06:55 PM
I like how this thread has gone dead.

Yet negotiations/threats on the game itself have soared. That's where the action is now.

18-06-2011, 02:50 PM
Someone take a daily screenshot and post it on the thread each day. Great voyeurism and doesn't really need a commentary!

18-06-2011, 06:22 PM
After this is done, I'll be dumping lots and lots of screenshots, as well as a game diary / emperor's log.

18-06-2011, 08:07 PM
The map very early in the game, probably the first day.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8508/mapstart.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/17/mapstart.png/)

The map right now. It's actually so big I missed a couple of Mechimp's stars on the bottom, I now notice.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6379/mapnow618.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/mapnow618.png/)

The galaxy looks a bit like India in its shape. How fitting for this game of landgrabbing and pitiless imperialism. One reflects on our shared history of colo...guys? Guys, where are you going?

18-06-2011, 08:12 PM
The player list might help too, huh.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7003/playerlist.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/playerlist.png/)

18-06-2011, 08:13 PM
I'm basically nobbled at this point, I fear.

18-06-2011, 11:08 PM
I'd like to thank Oak again for setting up the game.

19-06-2011, 08:05 AM
I'm glad you're enjoying it.

19-06-2011, 08:36 AM
I would also like to say thanks, it was very fun while I lived.

man-eater chimp
19-06-2011, 09:45 AM
Sorry about that Rakysh, I didn't really have anywhere else to expand...

Everyone underestimates the player in Bright Pink!

19-06-2011, 10:00 AM
Poor play from me, I should have pushed downwards instead of continuing north. No hard feelings.

Alex Bakke
19-06-2011, 11:03 AM

My failure: Thinking I could stay silent instead of talking to people, trading tech etc.

19-06-2011, 12:12 PM
Also blatantly, blatantly lying about your supposed economic might.

19-06-2011, 01:34 PM
Sorry, which in-game player are you Mr Bakke?

19-06-2011, 01:45 PM
Vectron the Mighty I do believe.

And yet, it's still only the early game. Possibly shading into Middle by now.

19-06-2011, 03:14 PM
I have 70 credits left over from when I played 16-18months back btw, if people want another game after this :p

19-06-2011, 05:29 PM
I don't think that's likely for some reason.

19-06-2011, 05:45 PM
If there's another game I'd love to get in on it.

man-eater chimp
19-06-2011, 09:27 PM
I don't think that's likely for some reason.

Trust levels between some individuals have fallen rapidly. Why I can't fathom.

19-06-2011, 09:43 PM
Spoken like a fearsome pink Space-Badger...

man-eater chimp
21-06-2011, 11:36 PM
3 formerly mighty empires have now fallen. May they long live in the memory! R.I.P Rond, Vectron and Rakysh! The Traveler and EndelNurk are both holding on to their final stars but I believe they will soon join the others as merely legends of the past.

Firmly in mid-game now, the next few days will most likely climax in a mighty intergalactic battle. Please let it be far, far away from my precious planets...

Alex Bakke
21-06-2011, 11:54 PM
Also blatantly, blatantly lying about your supposed economic might.

Hah, it wasn't blatantly lying - I was telling the truth. At that point I was at least 3 points ahead of anyone else, and in an alliance.

22-06-2011, 06:44 AM
"I will have two more science points tomorrow"

22-06-2011, 06:56 AM
Thanks again Oak for setting this up! It's certainly been an interesting game, and is only likely to get more so in the coming days!

22-06-2011, 12:08 PM
Aye, I don't think I'd do this regularly (it's kind of exhausting in the long run) but it's a load of fun and it's definitely keeping me guessing.

Kudos, Oak!

23-06-2011, 07:20 AM
Hi, i've never played this before but would be keen if another game is starting at all

23-06-2011, 07:42 AM
'ware the Space Badgers...

That said, I understand this is Legatus' first game (and only my third) and he's doing alright so far.

man-eater chimp
23-06-2011, 10:10 AM
Third game for me as well...

When the ship numbers get big, I can't be bothered with the combat maths. So then I just use a 50+ fleet on a planet with 3 defenders...

Alex Bakke
23-06-2011, 10:34 AM
"I will have two more science points tomorrow"

I did have the money to buy them, and was fully intending to - But then I sent some ships to Wolfenswan's planet by mistake, and feared war so built up some more.

man-eater chimp
26-06-2011, 09:06 AM
This game is getting violent now... I love it!

26-06-2011, 11:09 AM
This game has been thoroughly excellent. Even if my "territory" was the place subject to the most fighting and 600+ ships being destroyed in about a day! Much thanks to those who helped suppress the Liqourish the traitor! That's what you get liq, no hard feelings I hope.

I'd be so up for another game after this one.

26-06-2011, 11:46 AM
Not sure if that's *quite* where the most carnage has been, but I'll take the thanks wherever I can get them ;)

On the whole, I think I'll take a break after this one - tired.

Loads of fun though.

26-06-2011, 04:20 PM
This has turned into an ugly brawl.

man-eater chimp
26-06-2011, 06:18 PM
I'd say 2-300 ships destroyed in near DaNspace rather than 5-600...

I watched a lovely massive fleet battle at the edges of my space earlier, luckily it didn't include me!

26-06-2011, 06:40 PM
Pshhh, I like to exagerate things to puff up my importance, as I'm left with few stars now...

Somewhat Okay Shepherd
28-06-2011, 12:56 AM
When this is all over, I'd like to join.
But I warn you! I'm just as harmless as I look.

man-eater chimp
28-06-2011, 10:35 PM
Ooer it's approaching endgame now.

Get the nukes ready Smithers!

29-06-2011, 03:21 AM

29-06-2011, 12:00 PM
Every time someone is going to mention NP to me from now on.

29-06-2011, 01:44 PM
Don't fret wolf, there will be another game!

29-06-2011, 07:50 PM
As I said, I'll make a freetojoin private game when we have enough people :)

Somewhat Okay Shepherd
29-06-2011, 09:35 PM
How many people do we have so far? Because definitely count me in. You know. Not that I haven't said that already.

30-06-2011, 12:58 AM
Make a list!
1) Vicious
2) Somewhat Okay Shepherd

30-06-2011, 10:05 AM
I'd be happy for another opportunity to not sleep at night, count me in!

man-eater chimp
30-06-2011, 11:26 AM
It's tempting, but I don't think the urge to get up in the middle of the night to redirect my ships is worth the lack of sleep after this.

3 of us left now...

30-06-2011, 11:58 AM
Make a list!
1) Vicious
2) Somewhat Okay Shepherd
3) Egg651

Looking forward to failing!

30-06-2011, 01:19 PM
It's tempting, but I don't think the urge to get up in the middle of the night to redirect my ships is worth the lack of sleep after this.

3 of us left now...

What he said.

I'm definitely in favour of the idea and I'd love to hear how it goes but... I won't be playing in the next one.

Three star nations left who remain (technically) allied.

Three nations within reach of the total.

Aaaand... one lit fuse sizzling away in the shadows.

30-06-2011, 07:16 PM
4) Boo

If there's a place left I'd like to join as well.
Used to play NP quite a lot when it was more popular a year ago.

man-eater chimp
30-06-2011, 09:42 PM
I'm liking the massive build up of ships on my border, I believe MAD is in effect here!

01-07-2011, 07:35 AM
Oh it's not as MAD as all that, surely?

01-07-2011, 07:45 AM
I could go for another round, sure. If there's room.

01-07-2011, 04:31 PM
And I believe that's game, gents.

Good fun (if exhausting plotting-wise) - now to see if we can meld our patchwork notes into something resembling a history before the next game.

It was... what, 19 days?

01-07-2011, 06:40 PM
19 days, really? That's a long time. So totally up for another game.

man-eater chimp
01-07-2011, 07:09 PM
Wow I went out for the day and I come back to lose, oh well.

01-07-2011, 09:57 PM
19 or 20. The days in my diary bled into each other a little.

Anyway, a hearty congratulations/you're welcome/I'll see you in hell to Khryses. And a sincere apology to liquorish. This was definitely an interesting game.

02-07-2011, 04:59 AM
Yes, in that spirit my sincere apologies to anyone who feels I may have stabbed, betrayed or otherwise screwed them over somewhat. It is that kind of game, but that doesn't mean I enjoy that side of it.

And with a 12-player match it winds up more chaotic than most...

02-07-2011, 06:58 AM
That actually ended quite anticlimactically. I got up in the morning and saw that the game was over!

02-07-2011, 10:00 PM
Well I may as well get the ball rolling:

Oak, I'd love to see your daily diary - if you're willing, want to send me a copy or should we find somewhere to post our impressions?

Either way as the only one who stuck to 'daily', seems like yours should be the first to go in, so we can use it for a scaffolding for our serried notes...

02-07-2011, 10:05 PM
I wrote something on set up; when compared to the way actual events turned out it reads like the deluded ravings of an utter madman. The next entry never actually got written, but could be summed up as "Rakysh got crushed".

So. I am in the green trunks, and Iíve spent early points on science (Is this a good idea? I donít know) and focused on the economy. To my north is target #1, The Traveller. This is for three main reasons. One, he didnít agree with my proposed boundary, and two, I later found out his proposal for the boundary gave him a very tasty planet, which I am now heading for, and three, heís the weakest player on the board so far. To the south is Mechimp, who I have allowed a passageway out of his block off; he will probably be the second to be crushed. Finally among my neighbours is Endelnurk, in yellow, who has been gracious so far in allowing me planets as well as apparently willing to provide military support. Iím also involved in a three way tech alliance with Wolfenswan in dark red and I think Legatus in the white, which is ok because they are months away. Long term strategy is make an early dash against TheTraveller and then play it cool and take his planets, then consolidate until someone else looks weak; maybe pink, I think. Long term psychological strategy is to appear like a foolish mewling babe, emphasise how little I know about the game, and hope I get underestimated. This is probably unlikely, seeing as the bar of my understanding is already set so low on the conga set up of gaming that a slightly squashed bumblebee would have difficulty forcing his way underneath.

man-eater chimp
03-07-2011, 01:19 PM
2nd target :P

Everyone underestimates Pink!

03-07-2011, 03:28 PM
Lessons I learnt and put into practice:

-Talk to EVERYone. I think I spoke to all but Vectron and Rakysh in the first day, and that was largely a matter of time than anything else.

-Use the spatial terrain - since I was lucky enough to start between two spacewalls and a chokepoint, while I did technically have other powers on all four sides I had a fairly large sphere of influence, which I promptly glomped.

-Don't lie to anyone - it's all very well to have new names, but if you're ever hoping to play with your friends again, they have to be able to trust your word. The letter of your word.

-Don't commit to a decisive war if a small war will do. When I attacked Rond (and Liquorish), in both cases it was more or less as a decoy. I seized a small bundle of fairly valuable stars and then 'let' my allies (yes, having allies is fairly important here too) expand past my territory and 'cut me off' from the wealth.

-Don't attack anyone who will come back to bite you. Over the course of the game I fought Mechimp (accidentally, sort of), Rond, EndelNurk, Legatus (sort of), Liquorish, Oak, Wolfenswan and Mechimp (less accidentally this time). With the sole exception of the 'agreed' skirmishes with Mechimp and Legatus early on, I tried to make sure there wasn't anyone left to carry a grudge.

-Don't commit to a decisive war unless you know all your neighbours are fighting elsewhere. When I attacked EndelNurk I knew that Oak and Legatus were fighting Rond (so he was busy) and Mechimp was killing Rakysh - so noone was in a position to invade me in turn. In counterpoint... poor Liquorish who in a fit of sleep debt attacked DaN and I simultaneously while the galaxy was at 'peace' and triggered a five-front war.

-Speed kills. There's nothing more irritating than a large fleet ricocheting around your home systems - with enough speed you can bring it to battle on your own terms. And stop said fleet from penetrating to your industrial heartland.

-Money buys everything else - so buy money first.

Most of that's pretty obvious in hindsight - and the rest is highly debatable - but it wound up being the philosophy I used.

03-07-2011, 09:29 PM
Good philosophy/plan of attack khryses, but now everyone knows your plans... But I'd have to agree.

man-eater chimp
03-07-2011, 10:01 PM
My recipe of success was my starting position, nothing more really!

04-07-2011, 02:20 AM
Here it is. Lightly edited for readability, but there was only so much I could do. Anyway:


A Record of the Neapolitan Wars

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So, I'm not in the best of positions. Plum in the middle of the galaxy, as it happens. The center of a hexagon of other players. A hexagon of intrigue, no doubt.

Khryses reaches out for advice, Wolfenswan tells me that Vectron and Liquorish are already planning against me, and Liquorish tells me that Vectron wants him to plan against Wolfenswan. Wolfenswan wants Liquorish gone first, while Liquorish wants Vectron gone first. Wolfenswan seems on the up and up, though I don't think Liquorish will try anything until I attack Vectron. Liquenswantron. Liquorish wants a tech trade agreement, which means he's either NOT attacking me, as Wolfenswan suggested he wanted to, or he's...living recklessly? I don't know.

I send welcome messages to Rond, EndelNurk, and The Traveler. I do not get responses.

I'm fairly certain that Vectron is Alex Bakke, whom I've played with previously and who admitted after our last game to plotting against me in secret. I will remember to trust him even less than everyone else, in the event that he even tries to talk to me before attacking.


Expanding healthily, but the free stars are running out already.

DaN contacts me about ganging up on Liquorish. I've decided at this point to side with Liquorish if it comes to blows; Wolfenswan seems nice, but Liquorish got the ball rolling on a tech deal and that's what counts.

Share pleasantries with Vectron/Alex Bakke. We negotiate borders, and he's taking a lot. He brings up our previous alliance and later asks for speed tech. Boy howdy, do I ever not trust him. Hoping Rond, who still hasn't responded (nor has The Traveler) will trouble him soon. Nor have I heard from anyone on the farther reaches of the galaxy. I'll meet them if I survive the coming week.

Khryses is very open about everything. I trust him, but I'm also stupid. He could be a good ally if I need one, especially since he's far enough away.

Wolfenswan says he wrote Rond, and that we wants an "honest war". Me too! However...


Khryses has a significant lead at 25 stars. He's also on the level. That or an excellent con artist. I'm a bad judge of character, but the information is flowing freely back and forth and with none of the usual moustache twirls.

Rond proposes that Wolfenswan and I join him in attacking Bakke. I think we can pull it off, but it'll inevitably lead to a new fight over territory so I'm going to try to get Rond attacked while it happens. 30+ fleet on its way to collect more. Bakke, later on, mentions being attacked by Rond, and I promise to help. Is he really being attacked by Rond? Dunno, Rond didn't say so. Does this provide a good excuse to have a massive fleet on a border planet? You bet!

The Traveler accidentally lands on a planet right after me. We fight, I keep it, he doesn't respond afterwards. That's two one-way messages.


Liquorish asked about my dealings with Rond last night. Liquorish asked about my dealings with Rond this morning. A fellow could get the impression that Liquorish has an interest in my dealings with Rond. Rond doesn't trust me, wants Liq to stab me in the back, I don't know.

Gathering fleet to head to Sheraton, border with Bakke.

Ask Khryses to attack Rond. Complies.

Liquorish in scuffle with Traveler. Nobody seems to like that guy.

Wolf asks about plans, calls me trustworthy. Suspicious?

Mechimp wants a tech deal. I give him the runaround, but mostly because I can get scan from Khryses.


The ploy worked: Bakke bought my story and sent me scan tech on the promise of speed when I got the money to send it. I had the money, Alex. I had the money. A big honking fleet took his border star Izar with little resistance, and my membership in the war became official. I'm hoping (as is Khryses) that this and EndelNurk's attacks will wear Rond down enough to be taken out, I'm hoping to not have to do much of the work myself, and I'm hoping that whatever lie I eventually cook up will convince Wolfenswan that Rond was the bad guy all along. In the meantime, I'm letting everyone else plan. The less I have to contribute, the better.

The Traveler, ostensibly weary of being early-game target practice, announced in chat that he was being attacked, and by whom.

Khryses and I continued our long chat. I think I have yet to lie to him.

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Wolf and I are heading north to kick Bakke's corpse around while Rond heads south to fend off his growing number of attackers.

Killing Rond has become the hot new thing amongst the other players, and I flatter myself in thinking I had something to do with that. A quick email letting my new pal Legatus know that times were rough in the north and no one would stop him from taking free stars turned into a tech deal and him sending fleets into Rond's territory. EndelNurk and, bless his heart, Khryses are doing a number on him as well. In fact, Wolfenswan asked me to see if I could get EndelNurk to lay off him. Not likely, my friend. My only regrets are that I can't think of how to attack Rond myself without setting off any alarms, and that I can't somehow revive Bakke so that he can kill the now-vulnerable Rond for me and then meet his own, second end at the hands of my gigantic eastern acquaintances. Rereading that, there doesn't seem to be as much method to my machinations as I'd previously thought.

Khryses and Wolf both gave me some unsolicited information about my western neighbors. According to Khryses, Dan and Liquorish are now partnered. According to Wolf, Dan and Liquorish both have sizeable fleets on the border he shares with them. They don't appear to be sharing tech, but they've both been silent for a while and I'm stupid enough to suspect anything. Further in his email, Wolf mentioned growing bored of the game. I genuinely hate to see people turn AI, but it'd free me from obligations to Rond and almost certainly keep the aforementioned duo busy while I think of a way to defend against a hypothetical attack.

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Very quiet day. No plotting, no gossip. Just waiting for my fleet to arrive on Alfirk for the killing blow against Bakke.

Ate a whole bag of sour cream & onion chips. What's wrong with me?


Bakke launched his remaining fleet from his home base right before Wolf took it. If his last star is taken before it lands, it might die in the air.

Wolf said, without naming a source, that Khryses sent Bakke the speed tech to outrun Wolf's fleet. Realistically, this is the casual, almost prosaic double-dealing that gives the game its spark. Yet I'd be unhappy to find out it's true, even if it was done without malice, since Khryses is something of an in-game confidante. I won't bring it up.

I convinced Wolf that securing Rond's remaining stars was in our interest. Rond would understand. Wolf's doing the legwork. Following that, some mildly tense border negotiations with Legatus.

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Khryses admitted to sending the tech, without prompting. Might be a good sign. Whatever.

DAY 10

War, Endel, Liq conspiring, etc.

[EDITOR'S NOTE: What this entry should have done was explain that EndelNurk asked Liq and I for help against a surprise attack by Khryses. I lied and said I'd help, but Liq was serious and interested in countering any of Khryses' imperial ambitions. It was in my interest that he stayed out of Khryses's way.]

DAY 11

EndelNurk is basically dead. Khryses and, presumably, Mechimp cleaned up what was left of him. I sent a massive fleet to take one of his tiny stars, understandably but inadvertantly rousing suspicion from Khryses. Further proof that I am no strategic genius: I brought a tank to a fistfight.

Small talk with Liquorish continued. He's serious about attacking Khryses.

DAY 12

Liq seems to have launched a proper attack on Khryses. He'll expect me to join soon. I need to think of a way out of that.

I ended the day by sending a couple of letters off: one to mechimp, imploring him not to trust Liq and using Dan's recent capture of a nearby (to mechimp) star as proof of a future allied attack, and one to Wolfenswan, telling him that Legatus built industry up along our freshly-minted border. Legatus is being phenomenally suspicious. Giving his carriers names like Tyrant and Conquest does nothing to help his case.

Is the Great War starting now? Part of me hopes so: I do love the opportunity to be dramatic.

04-07-2011, 02:21 AM
DAY 13

War were declared.

Liquorish has attacked Dan, Mechimp has attacked Liquorish, Khryses is helping, and Wolf & I are on our way. Then there's Legatus. Legatus emailed to say he's concerned about my fleet build-up on our border, and thinks Khryses will attack him tomorrow. I promised to help.

Khryses is hitting Liq's thin eastern border. Dan is in bad shape already. Wolf hasn't told me what he's doing, exactly, but I saw his fleet a-flying in a westerly direction.

Dan managed to take Mizar, one of Liq's stars near our NW border, but Liq is about to hit it with a big fleet and almost certainly move on into my territory. I think I underestimated him. Yeah, I underestimated him.

DAY 14

Ah, the friction of war. Due to a little miscommunication, I got the idea that Wolfenswan would be helping in the fight against Liq. No, no, nothing so silly as that. He meant he expected me to join him and Legatus in attacking Khryses. Won't think of attacking Liq, of course. Why didn't I expect that they were buddy-buddy? Maybe I did. I'm losing track of the possible conspiracies that have run through my mind.

A day having passed, and even in light of this knee-slapper of a mistake, this whole thing doesn't seem to be the disaster that the paranoiac corners of my lizard-brain anticipated it would. Liq, certainly not dead, *is* ailing, and - surprisingly - has yet to counterattack. I've captured seven of his stars. Wolf agreed to attack Dan, which...doesn't help at all, but at least he's still with me in spirit. Shame I might be forced to kill him soon.

He mentioned wanting an honest war at the start, and I wonder if his objection to the war on Liq is an ethical one. Perhaps he promised he'd never attack him. That'd be awfully noble. I'm still willing to kill him, mind you.

DAY 15

War going very well. Liq on the ropes. Write more later.

[EDITOR'S NOTE: Did not write more later.]

DAY 16

I said I love the opportunity to be dramatic. I must be careful what I wish for.

I left for work this morning with my and mechimp's fleets surrounding Liquorish's last redoubt, ready to strike a killing blow. I came home from work this afternoon to find that Khryses had launched an all-out attack on me. 3 stars down, more fleets - bigger fleets - on the way. Honestly, it was really clever. He caught me with my fleets in all the wrong places, and in the war with Liq I'd allowed him to create a border that spanned a whole side of my empire. It's perfect: I'm going to die, and quickly. It's funny, I'd never actually been betrayed before. I'd lost a few games, been attacked indiscriminately, been attacked by openly hostile players, but never been stabbed in the back by an ally. Done it to others, though, so I don't think I'm really allowed to feel bad. But I do.

Anyway, fighting back still won out against pleading and nonviolent resistance. Three new carriers were hastily assembled, christened, and scrambled to evacuate stars in his crosshairs. If I'm to survive for longer than a smoke break I'll need to protect Sabik, my home star, against this initial flood. I pledged allegiance to Wolf, sending him (and Leg) tech, and offering him Sasin as a forward base.

At the end of the day, Legatus began attacking me too. Vulture.

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DAY 17

I guess I deserve this. I'm not the good guy.

Dying quickly. Mechimp is taking the stars I took from Liq, Legatus is moving through my eastern border, Khryses is doing whatever he wants, wherever he wants. Single-ship garrisons don't make much of a dent in him. I wonder if begging for mercy would have helped. He's unstoppable.

DAY 18

$80 income. This'll be my last big payday. I send $100 to Wolf.

13 stars to 2 stars in a day. Sabik gone. I'm homeless. It's amazing how little effort it seems to be taking him.

DAY 19

Alfirk taken. 0 stars. $24. Vulture.

DAY 20

EndelNurk points out in chat that the galaxy looks like Neapolitan ice cream now.

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I died for a good cause.

04-07-2011, 10:52 AM
Re: Day 10, I wasn't asking for help, I knew I was already dead. I was inviting you two to take the western part of my empire so that Khryses would not be left too powerful after killing me.

Glad I could donate a name to the war, even if I contributed little else.

04-07-2011, 11:20 AM
That was a brilliant diary Oak, but I must say that me and liq were only in cahoots in that we didn't attack each other, apart from that we wern't in any kind of alliance sharing anything really. Although that's part of the fun as well! Being paranoid about other people is great, and I must say I did like the attacks in liq after he started attacking me, made me feel a little better, so up for the next one.

man-eater chimp
04-07-2011, 02:51 PM
I wasn't grumbling :(

04-07-2011, 07:12 PM
Wow excellent commentary! However I object to being called a vulture, although I can see how it appeared that way from where you were sitting. Khryses and I had been planning for quite a while to attack you, but he launched the attack earlier than I expected and I wasn't in position. That's why it appeared that I showed up late to the fight, but more on that later. :)

05-07-2011, 12:37 AM
Thanks all!

Maybe vulture was a little harsh, but your joining in dashed what already meager hope I had of hanging on to a couple of northern stars in Wolf's vicinity.

11-07-2011, 02:34 AM
So could people who actually want to play again, take the list with two names and add theirs in a reply here so we have a firmer idea of numbers?

11-07-2011, 03:37 AM
Man, I'd almost be up for the next game if this wasn't a really, really bad time. Ya'll have fun, though.

Good diary, Oak. I don't remember my last (only) game being anywhere near that interesting.

11-07-2011, 04:19 AM
No apology needed Oak, I screwed myself over. Having not slept for three days for reasons not related to the game, I ended up sending an attack towards Khryses with no intention of following it up, since I was attacking DaN. No politicking, no preperation, just a single measly fleet.

After that blunder my fate was sealed.

I'll just dump my diary in another post, might add pictures later on.

11-07-2011, 04:21 AM
Here is my diary. It get's a bit sparse later on, account of not sleeping and gaining apathy, but hopefully it'll be interesting to someone.

11.6.2011 9:18

The game started a few hours ago. have been having interesting conversation with the australian. we're both researching speed now, so no initial tech trades, but we might work something out later on. (Khryses)

Sent a message to bakke, but i suppose he's not awake yet. he seemed rather fervent in his politicking, so it might be an idea to turn people against him. Hopefully I'll be able to get at least weapons tech off of him.

11.6.2011 9:55

Nothing new to report. Khryses seems to be very willing to share information with me, which is indicative of quite a useful mindset. I should keep him around until much later on. I think he'll be a much better ally than bakke would be.

11.6.2011 10:42

Nothing new happening. A little bit more contact with the australian. People are posting in the forum thread now. Must maintain an air of silliness. I have named all of fleets after lost cosmonauts.

11.6.2011 10:52

DaN responded to my message Re: him being hemmed in by me. It appears he's going to be totally passive, and basically screw himself! This is excellent. Once I'm in a position of power, I should be able to sieze his core stars without much resistance.

11.6.2011 17:24

Bakke wants to invade wolfenswan, and has already threatened him. I'm working on turning everyone else against him, so he wilts alone and without allies.

11.6.2011 19:22

Apparently wolfenswan won't tech trade with bakke, but he has agreed to invade oak together with him. Should be interesting to see how this turns out.

11.6.2011 19:49

Around half of the players still haven't taken any new stars, which is strange/reassuring. Maybe simply being better at the game will give me an edge.

My positioning is still kind of awkward, but it doesn't seem like DaN is up to much, and oak very passive. I'll just have to wait and see how things go.

I invested in science earlier, and plan on investing in economy as this production cycle draws to a close. Not sure what I'll do after that. There doesn't seem to be much chance of war just yet, so I might put off industry further still.

12.6.2011 6:38

Almost a new production cycle. Going to go out for a smoke first. Some people are barely siezing any stars - the traveler is still at 4.

12.6.2011 6:55

30 minutes until payday. I need to stay awake. My borders are becoming much more defined. I should be able to take mirzam before wolfenswan, especially as keid seems like a much more logical place for him to put his ships. Mesarthim is definitely mine, but i think I'll stop southwest expansion there, unless DaN turns out to be even more passive than I thought. Scheat is mine too, but that trinity of stars is weird overall. If I'm luck I'll get Albiero too. Although, the traveler still hasn't taken any stars. I might be able to get that entire consetellation.

12.6.2011 7:05

I seem to have managed to turn at least Khryses against Bakke. This is good. Wolfenswan should already be against him, since he says that Bakke threatened him, but he might already be playing mindgames. Oak was also 'warned' of Bakke, and seems to have taken the message to heart. We are tech trading in a bit.

The detail screen says that traveler has won a game, but he still hasn't done anything. Odd.

I have now sent messages to every single other player. I won't have much to do with most of them, but it's good to know what's up.

If I do grab the entire constellation near the traveler, and build up enough industry there, it'll be a nice power base, since it should protect my entire south eastern flank.

12.6.2011 13:37

Oh dear, I overslept. I'm sending a fleet to ALbiero, Hopefully it doesn't tourn out to be too unwise. I'd say something about fortune favouring the bold, but fortune tends to favour those that know what they're doing.

Oak has the next level in weapons and I sent him speed, hopefully when he's around I'll get those weapons.

Fuck fuck fuck. The traveler has taken at least one star, meaning he's probably got a ship headed for the ALbireo-Dschubba-Scheat constellation. Hopefully it'll be Dschubba, but still, this is really unfortunate. Five total fleets, headed to five different locations unless he's strange.

I need those weapons before I accidentally make contact with the traveler.

12.6.2011 14:03

Welp, the fleet Ivan Kachur is now headed to Albireo. Hopefully this will work out, despite being stupidly ballsy.

12.6.2011 14:11

SHIT. The Traveler has Dschubba. Fuck fuck fuck. I can't pull my ship heading for Albiero back, either.

Five hours and I'll know how screwed I am.

Sent a message to him, asking him to not send ships to Albiero or Scheat. Hopefully it gets through.

This is so incredibly inconvenient.

12.6.2011 14:29

I'm speaking with Khryses a lot, although we don't seem to have agreed to anything solid yet.

12.6.2011 16:09

Talking with bakke on mumble. He wants to set up a deal with him, rakysh and I, with me teching speed, bakke teching weapons, and rakysh doing range/scanning. Not sure what I think of this. I'm going to wait it out a bit more, and hopefully get weapons from Oak.

12.6.2011 19:26

Received weapons from Oak. Khryses is research range, which doesn't really help me immediately, so I think I'll also keep trading with Oak for weapons.

One my fleets (Ivan Kachur) is going to crash into The Traveler's at Albireo. He has taken Dschubba and built an industry and science on it. I am sending Pyotr Dolgov with eight ships to take Dschubba, initiating a minor border skirmish that should be over without too many losses on either side. I need to set up heavy industry in the area, the check that's coming in 12 hours should help. I'll actually be able to take Dschubba before payday too, so that's a bit more than ten space dollars just wasted for him, and ten space dollars for me. Also, a free point of industry in an important location.

I plan on resolving this conflict quickly, suing for peace as soon as the constellation is mine, and before he arrives with reenforcements.

13.6.2011 1:47

I have taken Dschubba from The Traveler, and one of my fleets was detroyed fighting ALbireo. I am going to send a fleet of five ships from Dschubba to Albireo, since if he techs up he an take out 4 ships in one go. This leaves Dschubba momentarily without defenses, but in less than twelve hours a ship will spawn there.

Oak sends word that DaN is plotting against me, which is reasonable.

13.6.2011 3:12

I've sent a message to The Traveler asking for peace, hopefully he won't try and take the stars back.

DaN has taken Furud, but I don't think he's ready to do anything to me yet.

1 day 9 hours until the next speed upgrade. Not sure what I'm doing after that. Oak also switched to range, god knows why. Maybe nobody else actually wants to attack people. I'm contemplating switching to weapons, but I fear I might already have invested too much into speed.


Best not. Hopefully I'll have no fighting any time soon anyway, after I've taken Albiero.

I need to invest more into science, but it's expensive, so I think I'll be better of waiting another 24 hours and instead investing in more industry around my borders, and economy with what's left over.

13.6.2011 8:09

Got my money, spent half of it on industry around my borders, the other half being saved for economy or something unforeseen. Oak is letting me take Mizar and is being generall reasonable.

Khryses is getting way too many stars. Hopefully his neighbours will do something about him. Heh. He still only has 13 economy and 7 industry. How absurd.

13.6.2011 14:12

The Traveler says that I'm too close to his home star and that he can't let those stars go. He doesn't seem to be a very rational player.

I might have to hold off on building science further still while I deal with this.

The good thing is that he doesn't seem to be that good at politics, so there's a chance he won't get the next weapons upgrade any time soon, which would make defending the constellation much much easier.

I'm sending Aleksei Ledovsky on its way with 31 ships, but it'll take a while before it reaches the border area.

13.6.2011 19:06

Apparently both Rakysh and Oak have had problems with The Traveler. Hopefully nobody on the other side of the map realizes that supporting him would be a detriment to everyone around him.

Rakysh has agreed to trade scanning for speed, which will be marginally useful. MOstly I just don't want him getting deals from anyone else.

We are also sharing information on The Traveler, talking about invading him from both sides. This could be very good, and put both Rakysh and I in a position of power.

If I am lucky, I'll even be able to snag Phad, The Traveler's home star.

Excellent, Oak agreed to let me have Zuben-el-Akrab.

14.6.2011 1:13

Things are very quiet, nothing new to report.
I am just about to take Zuben-el-Akrab. Will be able to add a bunch of economy.

11-07-2011, 04:21 AM
[It only allows 10 000 characters, apparently.]

14.6.2011 7:34

New day, new cash. Spent half of it reenforcing my borders. Gonna half to spend half of what's left on sending techs to people. Oops.
That leaves me 59 space dollars to spend on economy, barring something strange happening. I'm going to go ahead and send rakysh speed now, so that he'll hopefully send me scanning as soon as he wakes up.

Talked to Oak. Apparently wolfenswan and he are planning on invading Bakke's empire. Not sure who to support in this matter.

I should soon have a fleet of 40+ ships on Dschubba, hopefully with scans of Suhail. I'm considering launching an invasion and trying to capture Phad. It'd certainly put me ahead in both industry and science.

Eventually I need to do something about DaN.

14.6.2011 19:04

Bah. Things are getting quite muddled. Rakysh wants me to attack The Traveler, but he's gotten his weapons up to 3, tied with me, so he'll actually be able to do damage to me.

Oak has the next level of weapons but won't get them to me until another four hours.

DaN is expanding and growing in strenght behind me.

I am thinking of taking Porrima and Algol, since wolfenswan still hasn't made a move on them, and I don't want them to fall into DaN's hands.

But on the other hand, that'll completely encircle DaN.


15.6.2011 2:47

I'm sending a fleet of 49 ships to a

ttack Suhal. He's got a fleet of 8 approaching, as well as 16 in the local garrison, but it's possible that the ship on its way to Suhal is a pre-programmed troop-gathering trip.

15.6.2011 11:06

Captured Suhail. Things are hairu down here.

I need to stay calm and get things done. I need to sleep.

I bought another point of science, for a total of 3. Not sure if that was a good idea.

Bought one point of industry on Scheat. I think I'm saving the rest for economy.

Shit. I think I might be the larger force invading the Traveler, which means most of his shis will be focused on me.

Still, there's a lot of potential for expansion here, I could come out quite ahead.

15.6.2011 12:05

The Traveler has a lot of ships, I don't be the one to take the casualties for them. I have 45 ships already in the combat zone, and will have at least 30 more in around two days.

I need to keep my ships alive so I can capture lots of stars once the traveler finally is crushed.

I've got a fleet of 47 headed towards my fleet of 45 in Suhail, which is a tad awkward. The star itself isn't that valuable (only 1 industry right now) but it's the main route of attack to the constellation north of it.

It's a battle I'd win but with only a few ships surviving, either 18 or 9.

I might be able to avoid it depending on what he does with his ships on Phad.

15.6.2011 12:47

Ships are staying at Phad for now. I'm going to try something interesting and send 13 ships to Alkurah, and keep the rest at Suhail until the last second. Not only should this hopefully delay him further (and keep him from going for _my_ territory), it will help me have a larger share of The Traveler's stars.

Furthermore, it should prevent him from removing his fleet from Phad.

15.6.2011 16:49

Things are going ok in the south. Wolf wants me to warn him when DaN is going for Alglol but I won't.

Apparently Bakke has been ganged up on by Oak, Wolf, and Rond.

Interesting. I almost feel guilty.

15.6.2011 18:37

Hohum. Things are going ok.
Wolf apparently got DaN to back off from taking Algol. Not sure how I feel about that.

I'm doing a little dance in The Traveler's territory, ducking his major fleets. I need to get reinforcements but it's going to take a while. 22 hours and there'll be a minor fleet on Albiero.

Looks like he's going to do his best to keep Phad. I can live with that, I'll just have to take every star around it.

16.6.2011 6:12

Suhail was taken from me, but I'm just about to capture Regulus. I've upgraded my economy with the remaining money, including 1 point on Alkurah - hopefully I can keep it until next production round so I actually make money off of it.

I'm getting paid in 1 hour 10 minutes, capturing regulus in 30.

Things are starting to look troublesome up north. DaN has taken Algol, and wolfenswan is about to take Porrima.

I need to get them to fight each other so DaN doesn't fight me.

I need to finish off The Traveler, fast.

The graph screen shows that EndelNurk and Rond have fought. Interesting.

16.6.2011 7:49

Payday. I've invested roughly have of the income in industry, bumping it up to a total of 31.

Not sure how I'm doing in the grand scheme of things. There are a lot of very powerful people now.

16.6.2011 15:59

I'm sending a fleet from Regulus to Muscida, taking three economy points away from The Traveler and gaining myself a point of industry. Hopefully he won't react in time. It helps that my ships are so much faster than his, and that he doesn't seem to be a very active player.

I'll very shortly have 48 ships on Albireo, not sure what I'll do with them though. It's not quite enough to take Suhail Safely, and besides, I should be shooting for taking Phad.

If I'm really good, and really lucky, I might be able to pull off a double attack, sending the flett from Muscida in at the same time, Making an attack on Phad that much more powerful.

I'll have another ships in position to attack in 20 hours. Not sure if I should wait that long.

17.6.2011 1:52

Hohum. I'm sending the ship from Muscida to Kaffaljidhma, which, if I'm succesful, will get me 4 industry.

Furthermore, I'll soon (11 hours) have a fleet of 90 ships on Albireo, which I'll send directly to capture Phad.

If nothing goes horribly wrong, I should have enough local industry to safely destroy the Traveler, while starting to build up fleets to deal with DaN. I'll also add some more science points next round.

Mechimp contacted me, and wants to trade speed for weapons.
Perfect. He has 4 science, and he'll have the next level in less than a day.
Might lead to weirdness with Oak though.

17.6.2011 5:11

Fuuuuck. My ships taking Kaffaljidhma are going to be destroyed by Rakysh's ships. This is annoying.

I won't lose that many ships, but still. I also would have preferred to keep that star.


17.6.2011 23:30

Taking Phad in two hours. Should have enough ships left over to hold it, especially as it seems the traveler is relatively absent from play.

I am thinking of demanding Kaffaljidhma back, although he's already invested too heavily in it. I might just build up on phad and eventually take it myself.

DaN's borders on me are relatively unbuilt, and he's very much behind me in everything, except for science. After I finish taking stars from The Traveler, I'll work on moving my ships to attack him, or deal with threats from the northeast.

I traded techs with Oak. Not sure how Mechim will take it.

18.6.2011 7:16

Phad's mine, as well as a few minor stars. I am a leader in economy, and I think I might have everyone else beat in terms of industry.

I'm just about to get paid, and I'm going to add a point of science and a bunch of industy.

Rond, The Traveler, and Bakke are getting murdered. I'm thinking of sending The Traveler and Rond weapons upgrades so they do more damage on their way out.

Oak has worrying amounts of industry. I am going to try to go ahead and trade with Mechimp instead.

Oh excellent. Rakysh and Mechimp are at war. I could use this and attack Rakysh from the other side, but I also need to get to work on DaN. Hrm.

20.6.2011 13:01

Haven't updated the diary in a while.

I have a lot of industry, and Khryses is attacking/taking over Endelnurk.

Something needs to be done about him. I am going to try to drum up sort for a coalition against him.

DaN is still a pain. I can't really advance against Khryses without exposing myself to him.

Oh and Rakysh is being entirely crushed.

This game is getting violent/turbulent. I hope I can come out on top.#

21.6.2011 9:10

Things are really heating up. Looks like Khryses is going to completely destroy Endelnurk, but I'm putting together a coalition against him.

I think I've managed to convince both Oak and Michemp to join me, so it'll be a three-pronged attack against him. Hopefully I'll be able to get a lot of stars and put myself in a good position for the rest of the game.

Not sure about Legatus.

22.6.2011 9:14

I'm beginning to attack DaN, after realizing that I'm too far behind in star count and too badly positioned to do anything without his stars.

I believe I've gotten a triple alliance against Khryses, which is nice.

Side note: holy crap everyone died at once. We're down to seven active players, of the original twelve, and DaN will shortly be terminated.

I have a large fleet (200+) headed for his home star, and will fly out subfleets to other nearby stars after it is captured, siezing his industrial core in one fell swoop. I also have smaller fleets approaching him from each flank.

23.6.2011 1:07

Oh dear. Making decisions on no sleep for three days was a terrible terrible idea. I forgot to play politics and now Khryses and Mechim are both attacking me.

In retrospect I fear my positioning might have screwed me from the start. There was no way I was going to be able to make a major move without DaN saying something about it, so I could never expand in the same way Khryses did.


11-07-2011, 04:37 AM
Thoughts on the game:

I think 12 players is too much. It's hard to keep track of everyone, but more importantly, it screws a lot of people over in the map generation. DaN and I were basically screwed by each other, since he couldn't expand in any other direction than into me.

The politics also become a lot more separated, since there are so many people to deal with. I think something along the lines of the original 7/8 might be better, since it forces people to deal with each other much more.

That being said, 12 is nice in that it feels much bigger, and there are some truly dramatic moves. It's a shame you can't be more specific about the map without going for like the spiral galaxy.

11-07-2011, 11:48 AM
Great diary - sorry I'm so late in getting mine out, things are a little hectic at present.

Spatial geography was... interesting for me. On the one hand I had Legatus behind my back - just like you and DaN - but bar a few minor spats we managed to keep things on an even keel there.

On the other hand, I made out like a bandit in the initial expansion phase, largely due to space walls.

12-07-2011, 10:07 PM
Thank you for writing that.

I'm not quite so down on 12 players. It sacrifices a bit of intimacy, I guess, for the feeling of being part of a huge conflict weeks in the making, but I'm okay with that trade-off and the extra demands it puts on you to keep tabs on God knows how many plots, personalities, and events. It's not something I want to do again anytime soon, but it made for a neat memory.

I imagine a smaller, more cramped game feels a bit like a Mexican standoff.

12-07-2011, 11:11 PM
That was great liq, and agree with you about the starting position thing. But there are bigger maps than that random one we were on. There are much bigger pre-set stars maps that give much more room that would perhaps be better. And even further encourages diplomacy because everyone has exactly the same thing.

Also reading these diaries makes me want another game soooo much.

31-08-2011, 02:16 PM
does anyone fancy another game of this?

31-08-2011, 03:29 PM
I'm in, personally.

Somewhat Okay Shepherd
01-09-2011, 01:42 AM
I'm still up for it, years later.

07-09-2011, 01:02 PM
I'd also be in for a new game if we got one going

07-09-2011, 01:27 PM
well thats 4 of us, we could just start up a game and post it here if peeps want in, then leave it open for randoms to join

07-09-2011, 09:57 PM
I've got some leftover credits. If you'd like to make it a premium game (with custom settings and a password) I'll start one up for you.

08-09-2011, 12:09 AM
I'll be in hopefully remember what is going on.

Sotto Voce
08-09-2011, 12:41 PM
I'm up for this one.

08-09-2011, 01:24 PM
okay so thats a fair few of us, ive got some credits, but do we want to leave it open to fill the game what are your thoughts guys ?

08-09-2011, 02:33 PM
I'd say post the password here.

08-09-2011, 04:11 PM

password is chainsawed


all rules are default

09-09-2011, 02:54 AM
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