View Full Version : Solium Infernum: Better the devil you know

01-11-2011, 08:25 AM
Hey folks. Seems like my timing is really bad, a lot of SI games have started and I missed the boat. So maybe we can form up a new group in this thread and kick off a new game?

OK so far we got:
1. Easy (me) - Hosting GMT+1
2. baboonanza
3. Dolphan
4. duff
5 and 6. TimA x2

Will be playing on v 1.07c. Please make sure you have dropbox installed (referred link (http://db.tt/yRbGYaZ)). And PM me your email.

Also, reply with your votes for game settings by bolding your preferred option:

Options (defaults in bold):
Map Size: Choose between 12/14/16 hex width. Height is always 12.
Map Type: Picks between major map features. Great Rivers tends to be more open. Acheron's Locks has many small areas. Dante's peak has a large mountain and chasms to channel conflict. The Lake of Fire is also open, but adds a special place of power, The Palace on the Lake of Fire, which grants +1 order slot, in addition to prestige.
Place of Power: None, Rare, Uncommon or Common. Determines the number of places of power that will be generated. Public objectives and the Lake of Fire can override the None value.
Game Length: Determines number of tokens to be drawn to end the game (10/15/20/25). You can estimate a turn length of 4x the number of tokens.

I've created a shared dropbox folder called SI_PBEM. For those of you who've already sent me your email you will shortly receive a shared folder invite thingy (site seems to be down right now). Also check the wiki to understand how files are exchanged http://goo.gl/ra7bF

Don't know how busy your lives are, but let's all aim to play a turn 5 days a week. If we can hit 7 days, bonus!

And I have to thank previous SI players for having all this info handy.

01-11-2011, 09:35 AM
I'll be up for a game as long as I'm not hosting (since I'm running 2 already). I'd love to try out the new update.

01-11-2011, 10:33 AM
If this doesn't get any responses for people thinking it's an already-established game, see if a shout for more players works in here:


Threads like that really need a sticky.

01-11-2011, 11:05 AM
Haven't played for a good year or so, would definitely be up for getting back to it - count me in.

01-11-2011, 01:23 PM
I could be interested aswell.

01-11-2011, 07:44 PM
Thanks Ian. Yeah stickies would be awesome, or a sub-forum.

Ok so that's four of us, two more and we're ready to rock.

I can host if everyone is kind and patient since it is my first time. I've updated to the last version, 1.07c I think, so I guess we should all do the same?

We'll do the Dropbox thing to exchange turn files, seems to be a well oiled workflow judging from other groups.

Really looking forward to this!

01-11-2011, 08:59 PM
Ok, I'm patched up to 1.07c and ready to go whenever.

01-11-2011, 09:24 PM
Silly question but how do you grab the patches? I'm still on 1.06b and can't see a patcher :-)

01-11-2011, 10:15 PM
Over 'ere http://www.crypticcomet.com/blog/?cat=13

Download and overwrite the files as per Vic's instructions.

02-11-2011, 12:16 AM
Well, I might be interested, but I'm wondering about the skill/prior experience of the other players. This would be my first true multiplayer game, and I have no clue about designing a winning character.

02-11-2011, 09:43 AM
This is only my third MP game and the other 2 haven't even finished yet.

I vote for trying the new map type, Great Divide (I think). Everything else on default.

PM sent with my email.

02-11-2011, 09:56 AM
I think it's Infernal Divide, and I'd vote for that + defaults too. Are we going for turning the new expansion content on? I'd like to try it. Will PM my email.

Alehks - I've played three multiplayer games, well over a year ago, and all with the same build. Don't feel too threatened! I've just been reading the manual to try and remember how the game actually works ...

02-11-2011, 10:36 AM
Are there still two slots free? If so, my girlfriend and I would be interested in joining. I could get her to register here and PM her email later this evening (running on GMT), if that would be ok.

02-11-2011, 01:44 PM
Easy - I'm in if you'll have me.

02-11-2011, 07:33 PM
Ok you evil scheming minions :)

@duff: of course, we'll have you. I wasn't sure because in your initial answer you said " I could be...". So, you're in.
@Alekhs: this is my first MP game and my second game overall. I fully expect to die a horrible death. You want in?
@TimA: If Alekhs confirms we only have one slot left. If not, then both you and girlfriend are welcome.

In case you missed my first post, we're playing latest build 1.07c

I'm on GMT+1 time zone.

03-11-2011, 10:12 PM
Anyone confirming on those last two slots? Alehks doesn't look like he's come back on the forum since that post - I'd say we should go with anyone who's happy to jump in and go?

03-11-2011, 10:30 PM
I've sent off a couple of PM. Let's give him a chance :)

But yes if there are any takers out there please make yourselves know, I'll open up the slots again tomorrow if I don't hear back.

04-11-2011, 10:18 PM
(silence) ok TimA looks like Alekhs has gone AWOL. Please confirm asap and PM me both email addresses.

05-11-2011, 01:49 AM
Ok people, we're good to go. I'll be sending first game file so you can all sign up your fiendish demon lord. Keep an eye on your dropbox folder.

05-11-2011, 02:05 AM
Ok folks, the deed is done, game crated, please grab the .inv files from the dropbox and put them in your _NewGameStarts folder (default folder path is C:\Users\xxx\Documents\SoliumInfernumGame\MultiPla yerSaves\_NewGameStarts)

Next steps:

1. Fire-up SI, go to Multiplayer, Load Game and pick the game from the list (BetterDevil). Pick the avatar you want to use.

2. This should create a new folder with a PlayerName.trn file inside. Drop that file in the appropriate subfolder in our dropbox.

3. Once I have all your files I will be able to create the game and send you an updated .sav file at which point we can all start our first turn.

05-11-2011, 10:57 AM
I'm Infernus (so people know who to PM when it comes time to beg for mercy/mock and threaten).

05-11-2011, 01:34 PM
Hello everyone!

Created my avatar and sent my first turn file, I am Lilith in-game.

05-11-2011, 01:59 PM
Sent mine also, I'm Choronzon.

Looking forward to this!

05-11-2011, 03:09 PM
My avatar is in. I'm Chudleigh.

05-11-2011, 11:18 PM
Ok we're almost ready, just waiting on duff to submit.

06-11-2011, 06:53 PM
All files are in, I just updated the .sav file which you should put in your game folder. You can now all submit your first turn and then overwrite the file in the .trn folder.

The map is... pretty special :)

This is going to be awesome. I've never played with 6 players, my brain is already melting when I think of all the possibilities.

ps: for communicating, use RPS PM system or better yet (though not as flexible) use the in-game messaging (from Diplomacy screen). It's more atmospheric :) But you can only send one per turn...

07-11-2011, 08:20 AM
Congrats everyone for our first turn. Yay! I'm going to try and sort of keep a running diary. If anyone else has an inclination to do so it could make a nice AAR. I won't announce every turn here but looks like we're all keeping an eye on the dropbox folder ;)

It's cold out here, I'm going back down where it's toasty. Plus, I miss the constant screams of the thousand souls being tortured in my boudoir.

07-11-2011, 09:01 AM
Are you keeping a backup of the .trn and .sav files? I have yet to see a crash in 1.07b but there are other ways the files can get messed up so I'd strongly advise keeping the last turns and save somewhere.

And Dolphan, you are going to pay for that.

07-11-2011, 12:31 PM
Are you keeping a backup of the .trn and .sav files? I have yet to see a crash in 1.07b but there are other ways the files can get messed up so I'd strongly advise keeping the last turns and save somewhere.

And Dolphan, you are going to pay for that.


I probably can't take the PoP anyway though ...

07-11-2011, 01:05 PM
Actually I meant bidding on Temeluchas. Since bidding can only tie with someone of the same rank it must have been you that massively overbid exactly the same amount as me!

07-11-2011, 01:58 PM
You know souls count double for resolving overbids?

07-11-2011, 02:03 PM
Yes, although I only found out when checking on the rules afterwards.

07-11-2011, 02:26 PM
Ha, I've just read the requirements for a tie, they must be pretty damn unusual (although most likely in the first few turns I guess).

07-11-2011, 07:32 PM
TimA, Tullia and Dolphan - waiting on ya'll to process the next turn :)

@baboonanza: the beauty of using dropbox is that it keeps older versions when you overwrite.

08-11-2011, 01:25 AM
Could have an issue here. Everytime I load the save I get a script error and the message:

Property not found:
#reg point

Not had it in any of my other games.

08-11-2011, 08:01 AM
Mmm (this noise means: I have no clue what's going on)

You're on 1.07c right?. Also, I'm using rectification rules, in case there's a checkbox for you to tick on your side (there was on mine when I created the game, but since I'm host I don't think you guys have that option anyway).

Only thing I can suggest is send an email to Vic he's really really good at responding to support emails.

By the way, folks, please take a regular look at the .sav file in the dropbox and if the time-stamp is more recent than the one in your game folder, it means it's time for you to copy the file over and take your turn.


08-11-2011, 04:53 PM
Yeh pretty sure I'm on 1.07c. The game menu doesn't say its on that version, but I copied the three files and the folder over, and I can see all the new units etc.

08-11-2011, 05:29 PM
There's a 1.07d out now - http://www.crypticcomet.com/blog/?p=769

Says it fixes a bunch of critical bugs with the new content. I think we can update to the incremental ones mid-game.

08-11-2011, 05:37 PM
I'll try a clean install with that tonight, sorry about the delay chaps and chappettes.

08-11-2011, 05:56 PM
Yes, we can all update. duff and Tullia, still waiting on you two to process this turn.

08-11-2011, 08:59 PM
I'm done now :)

09-11-2011, 01:06 AM
Okay I did a clean install and updated to the newest beta version. Still getting this every time I try to load the game:


Coincidentally, the other game I'm playing since I updated versions is working fine so far.

09-11-2011, 01:27 AM
I really have no idea where that comes from. It's particularly weird since the first two turns went by ok. Best you can do is contact cryptic's support (i.e. Vic the developer) and I'm sure he can sort it out in no time.

What happens if you click on continue?

09-11-2011, 08:34 PM
Easy - just sent Vic my savegame file.

10-11-2011, 02:22 PM
Just an update, Vic got back to me and were trying to troubleshoot it now. Quick response, I'm impressed!

10-11-2011, 06:15 PM
Man, turn 3 had better be good, cause the waitin'... :P

10-11-2011, 07:08 PM
My prediction - everyone demands tribute, nothing happens.

10-11-2011, 10:47 PM
My prediction - everyone demands tribute, nothing happens.

... give or take a few nasty rituals, insult s and demands :)

(but, yeah, you're right).

11-11-2011, 01:53 AM
All sorted. Sorry for the delay guys.

11-11-2011, 10:42 AM
Aren't we still waiting for TimaA anyway?

11-11-2011, 11:58 AM
Don't think so, we should be good to go.

11-11-2011, 11:25 PM
Turn processed. File uploaded.

F**k, 6 turns without the Bazaar is loooong. Whoever you are, that was mean.

11-11-2011, 11:50 PM
Can only be one of the 2 who've been regent. And that is one annoying event.

12-11-2011, 12:37 PM
It wasn't me, I had a fucking bid in too!

Also, is anyone else getting a crash when mousing over Infernus' second legion? I'll send a report to Vic.

12-11-2011, 01:35 PM
It wasn't me, I had a fucking bid in too!

Also, is anyone else getting a crash when mousing over Infernus' second legion? I'll send a report to Vic.

Not me. Which is good, because I kind of like being able to move it.

12-11-2011, 02:17 PM
Well, I've just signed my death warrant... and I really need to re-read the rules about combat because I did NOT expect THAT to happen. WTF?

13-11-2011, 08:24 PM
Hi Easy, could you confirm you got my ingame message as I'm not sure if I'm sending them properly.

13-11-2011, 10:47 PM
No I didn't get anything. I imagine it should appear in the turn log? Nothing there.

14-11-2011, 02:13 PM
Yep they appear in the turn log. And as soon as I work out how to reply, I'll upload my turn.

15-11-2011, 08:36 PM
1.07e update?

15-11-2011, 09:45 PM
I guess so.

ps: duff I did get your last message :)

15-11-2011, 10:03 PM
What are you guys plotting? You sure as hell aren't organizing no tea party!

16-11-2011, 09:27 AM
What are you guys plotting? You sure as hell aren't organizing no tea party!

So far it seems I'm the target of everyone's insults and demands. Sure, kick the lame guy. The worse is that when I do get my legion back from their enforced vacation, its stats will be lower.

19-11-2011, 01:09 PM
So, in case anyone's wondering, only baboonanza has turned in his file this turn... nudge, nudge, hint :)

19-11-2011, 02:34 PM
Nope, I have :-p

20-11-2011, 10:29 PM

21-11-2011, 06:02 PM
Uploaded my turn, sorry for the delay.

23-11-2011, 07:52 PM
Hey Peeps. I'm off for an extended week-end with no access to SI. So Thursday is our last turn until Sunday evening.

Things are kinda quiet, but I sense it's the calm before the drama starts to build up :)

27-11-2011, 06:18 PM
I'm back. If I'm not mistaken, we're waitin' on Tullia.

28-11-2011, 03:34 PM
Ooops, sorry, I was away this weekend too and then I just... got distracted. I'll go update now. Sorry folks!

28-11-2011, 04:23 PM
Turn has been processed. Chudleigh is building some serious muscle :)=

28-11-2011, 05:21 PM
You knows it.

01-12-2011, 09:12 AM
Are we waiting for Tullia again?

01-12-2011, 10:02 AM
I'm going to grab this at the next sale, or does anyone know where it's discounted now?

01-12-2011, 10:44 AM
Pretty sure you can only buy it direct from CC.

01-12-2011, 11:05 AM
Show me the sales have it 50% off, assuming the code still works


01-12-2011, 08:18 PM
Are we waiting for Tullia again?

yes we are :/

05-12-2011, 08:28 PM
Hell calling TimA and Tullia, please respond.

06-12-2011, 07:51 AM
Sorry about that, had a really hectic week. I'll upload my turn when I get home this evening.

08-12-2011, 09:43 PM
Tulia, 4 days without submitting a turn is a tad bit excessive. Hell may just freeze over.

08-12-2011, 10:19 PM
Angels? Urk.

13-12-2011, 04:03 PM
This game is going to take a long time if we have to wait a week for every turn!

13-12-2011, 09:25 PM
Yes, it is frustrating. Not sure what we can do about it. The worst thing is I'm on vacation as of Saturday and I'm not planning on lugging my tower PC with me...

13-12-2011, 10:14 PM
Busy time of year, just do what we can and hopefully we can pick up the pace after new year rolls around.

02-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Hey peeps, let's get this game going! Please submit your turns.

03-01-2012, 08:38 AM
I think they're all there already?

03-01-2012, 07:58 PM
Oh crap, stupid me. Thing is TimA turned in his turn just after I'd left but because most files were dated all the way back to Dec 15th I was convinced I had already processed the turn. Sorry folks. New turn is up.

09-01-2012, 11:19 PM
Duff? Think we're waiting on you.

11-01-2012, 05:55 PM
PM'd Duff. :(

12-01-2012, 03:08 PM
Sorry about that for some reason I had it in my head I'd already submitted my turn.

13-01-2012, 07:29 PM
So if I'm not mistaken, we're waiting for Tullia.

16-01-2012, 09:18 PM
Soooo, that's the second time my legion gets wiped out. F%@#&

PS: will whoever summoned the angelic host please do his/her own dishes and get rid of that infestation?

17-01-2012, 10:40 AM
Shouldn't it just go away at some point? Is it still jumping around the map?

17-01-2012, 02:40 PM
I think it visits everyone once doesn't it?

17-01-2012, 02:49 PM
I think so - it hit me first and it hasn't hit me again (fingers crossed!)

09-02-2012, 09:58 AM
Easy? I think all the turns are in.

11-02-2012, 08:27 PM
Hey folks, Ive been away from home but back tomorrow to submit the turn.

12-02-2012, 06:07 PM
So it turns out we're actually waiting on Tima and Tullia.

21-02-2012, 05:06 PM

I was enjoying this game ...

22-02-2012, 12:09 AM
Tullia's Turn came in yesterday but somehow sneaked past me. Submitting in 5 mins. Standby.

Edit: Done! Now, come on, let's all get better at this, far too much time between turns.

25-02-2012, 04:15 PM
Tullia, we're waiting on you.

Ps: I moved everything into one folder so you can sort by date and easily compare your turn file to the sav file.

26-02-2012, 12:31 PM
Well well, things are heating up on hell.

04-03-2012, 09:49 PM
Tullia - please try and submit your turn tomorrow because I'm AFK for a whole week starting Tuesday.

Edit: wow, Tullia submitted within a minute of me submitting this message ! Synchronicity?

12-03-2012, 08:49 PM
I'm back and waiting on Tullia to commit next turn.

14-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Look here folks - I hate to bring this up, but it's for the better. If you really no longer have the passion for this game and would like to move on to something else, we can always replace you with an AI. I would much rather have real people, but if that makes everyone happier (you move on, we improve our play rate) then why not.

Of course, that only makes sense if one or at the very worst two move on. More than that, we might as well give up.

Just lemme know.

15-03-2012, 12:16 PM
We do always seem to be waiting on Tullia.

19-03-2012, 10:37 PM
Tullia, please let us know if you want to continue playing or not so that we can turn on the AI player for you.

20-03-2012, 09:25 AM
She hasn't logged into the forum since December, so I'm not sure she's likely to read that.

20-03-2012, 11:34 AM
I say we should scoop out her brain and insert a CPU.

20-03-2012, 12:20 PM
I swear every game I start is DOOMED.

20-03-2012, 05:45 PM
Alright boys. If no answer by Thu the chip implant will be conducted.

23-03-2012, 04:44 PM
I think the lobotomy is well overdue...

24-03-2012, 06:54 PM
OK, does anyone know how to perform the operation? I looked through all the options but there's no obvious way to do it. Yet I'm (almost) sure it can be done. Any ideas?

Edit: Never mind, found it :) New turn is up. Tullia is now a cyborg.

02-04-2012, 07:00 PM
Sending pm to TimA. Would you guys want to continue if TimA also drops out?

02-04-2012, 10:36 PM
I would. But then I am in the lead, I believe :-p

03-04-2012, 03:52 PM
I'd continue. I still have plans.

04-04-2012, 02:13 PM
OK well if TimA doesn't replay to my PM by saturday, we'll perform a second cyborgisation.

09-04-2012, 10:13 PM
It is done. Turn is up.

01-05-2012, 11:34 AM
All right, own up. Who broke the bazaar?

30-05-2012, 01:30 PM
Just to let you know that I won't be able to submit any more turns 17th of June if the game gets going again.

31-05-2012, 08:48 AM
Well let's try and finish then #$%& game. Duff submitted his turn yesterday, I'll process it tonight when I'm back home.

01-06-2012, 01:40 PM
I think Bab means he'll be away till the 17th, not that we have to finish by then?

30-06-2012, 05:56 PM
Apparently I was behind on this, didn't realise, sorry! Baboonanza should be back now so hopefully we can get through to the finish ...