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    You know, if 140 black French were shot in a...

    You know, if 140 black French were shot in a banlieu, the news impact would be similarly huge. It's just more normal that bombs explode in Lebanon and we, westerners in general, don't feel nearly as...
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    I saw James Bond: Spectre. I didn't like it. I...

    I saw James Bond: Spectre.

    I didn't like it. I don't know anything about the backstory of Bond and I don't really care. They didn't manage to make me care about the characters. After a cool...
  3. Sad story about that kid. Made me read a bit...

    Sad story about that kid. Made me read a bit about it, and there's this story:

    "Another man from the village of Qabeet, Hussein Khodor 44, his wife and their eight children were also on the...
  4. I think a big part of the polarization is done by...

    I think a big part of the polarization is done by the anti-populist established parties as well. I remember the big bucket of crap Pim Fortuyn got poured over him for saying the multicultural society...
  5. I agree Lethe. That's why I dislike the na´vity...

    I agree Lethe. That's why I dislike the na´vity of many western governments in Europe to be so short-sighted. The migration problems will be huge, and there will be no way to hold us to our current...
  6. I think part of the problem is that anyone who...

    I think part of the problem is that anyone who opposes mass immigration is labelled a horrible xenophobe. People thinking immigration of a german to holland isn't any different from a...
  7. Shall we get back on track to the discussion at...

    Shall we get back on track to the discussion at hand? :-)
    I'd like to see your opinions on these arguments:


    The utilitarian argument:

    The money we spend on these refugees is completely...
  8. It's just a legalistic arguement you're in with...

    It's just a legalistic arguement you're in with Atomic. Germany is effectively temporarily quitting Schengen. But the Schengen treaty has a clause that allows you to do so (temporarily) in times of...
  9. Fraud encompasses more than just language, you...

    Fraud encompasses more than just language, you know. Another example is that many immigrants who come to Holland claiming political asylum claim to be homosexual. Homosexuals are persecuted all...
  10. Ah, now I see. You're correct here, thanks for...

    Ah, now I see. You're correct here, thanks for showing me. I guess it was a bit of strawman. I still feel our immigration system is quite flawed (mostly because of the many appeals that are possible).
  11. Are you not now, a racist? Or is it okay if to be...

    Are you not now, a racist? Or is it okay if to be racist if you think it's true? Why do you have to swear so much?






    You're making that connection. I think the Australian system works at...
  12. I'm confused. I don't understand why you started...

    I'm confused. I don't understand why you started talking about this difference when we were both talking about the immigration system (not the worker migration system). I don't see the relevance of...
  13. So if our system works so well, like you claim,...

    So if our system works so well, like you claim, why haven't the bad changes Verdonk made been reversed? It looks like you just admitted that our system is pretty flawed. And the efficiency and...
  14. I doubt Lebanon and Turkey would send anyone...

    I doubt Lebanon and Turkey would send anyone looking for a refugee camp from Syria back into Syria. Nobody in Europe sends people back to Syria right now, so why Germany? These people are not looking...
  15. I think that's a real na´ve view. The system not...

    I think that's a real na´ve view. The system not working led to the general pardon in Holland. Which was also broken, as most of the people using it lied to be eligible.

    Marocco still has a lot...
  16. If they're refugees, why do they pass 7 safe...

    If they're refugees, why do they pass 7 safe countries to get to Germany? Refugees are the ones living in refugee camps in Lebanon, Turkey and other neighbours.

    Migrants are the ones that want to...
  17. I'm from Holland. The stance of the government is...

    I'm from Holland. The stance of the government is that we're willing to take in refugees if all EU-nations agree on a splitting them up (this agreement is never gonna happen, just look at Hungary and...
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    Is there a way to play it without buying the...

    Is there a way to play it without buying the collectors bullshit edition already? Really looking forward to this, my favourite niche by my favourite devs, with my favourite attitude.
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    I'm down for it. Eating crickets and grasshoppers...

    I'm down for it. Eating crickets and grasshoppers seems easier to me than more "slimy" bugs like larvae. It should be really cheap to produce, but here in Holland, actually getting your hand on...
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    In a game related sense, I play project reality a...

    In a game related sense, I play project reality a lot where communication is essential, and it makes me a little bit racist. Very heavily accented English often correlates with low...
  21. Might be a fun rpg. I hope they manage to...

    Might be a fun rpg. I hope they manage to modernise it a bit while keeping a feeling depth.
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    Besides, how many of the rejectees return to...

    Besides, how many of the rejectees return to their country of origin or are deported?

    From that bit of research:
    Main conclusions
    • Religious fundamentalist attitudes are in Western Europe much...
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    Yeah I see your point. I think there's a German...

    Yeah I see your point. I think there's a German research group that does a bunch of these surveys with pretty good methodology, but I keep forgetting the names of the researchers. It'd be real...
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    The fact that they were invited doesn't really...

    The fact that they were invited doesn't really change the issue. The fact that these people (third generation, many) still hold such fundamentalist views is a pretty big problem I think, and...
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    The problem that I'm worried about outside from...

    The problem that I'm worried about outside from Europe, and more focused on my own country (the Netherlands) is the culture clash. I don't think very different cultures mix well. Interesting research...
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