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Thread: Getting a new gaming PC
29-03-2013, 12:56 AM #1
Getting a new gaming PC
It's that time again, I'm ready to replace my current PC wich gave 4+ years of solid gaming for a new gaming rig.
I have to big concerns: I'm absolutelly ignorant of which are today's standars and, secondly, with the next-gen consoles around the corner I would like a PC that can play most of those games for the comming years.
Looking around the website from the guys I got my last PC from I found the following machine, what do you guys think?
MB: Gigabyte GA-277-DS3H
RAM 8 GB Kingston Hyper X
Intel Core i7-3770
ATI Radeon HD 7870
Of course most of the parts are upgradable, but it's already quite pricey at it is. What would you swap?
29-03-2013, 02:58 AM #2
I would downgrade the CPU to a Core i5-3570K if possible.
The RAM is fine if it's DDR3-1600 or above, and runs at less than 1.65V.
The graphics card is good, though if they offer an upgrade to a 7870 XT it may be better to take that upgrade. Assuming pricing is sane down there; the 7870 XT shouldn't cost much more.
Make sure you're getting a decent power supply, it's the easiest place for them to cut corners, and it's where it can cause you the most grief.
29-03-2013, 09:22 AM #3
29-03-2013, 01:30 PM #4
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I'm not trying to be that "HURR JUST BUILD ONE" guy that appears in all of these threads, but I'm genuinely surprised by the amount of people on here that buy pre-built machines. It's just a bit strange to me, like a car enthusiast who doesn't like to work on his own vehicles. It would be interesting to know the price of what you are looking to buy, and then see how much the parts sell for individually, just to see how true the old "You can save hundreds by building yourself" line really is. Again, I don't mean to rip you, and I understand that some people just don't have the know how, time, or desire to build. I'm just surprised to see so many of them."What were we talking about? Pegasuses, pegasii, that's horses with wings. This motherf*cker got a sword that talks to him. Motherf*cker live in places that don't exist, it comes with a map. My God."
29-03-2013, 02:07 PM #5I'm just surprised to see so many of them.
You actually find very few people on this forum, now that I think of it. It's got like five regulars.
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30-03-2013, 05:36 PM #6
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I would say don't do it yet. Haswell is round the corner aka June this year and they're going to LGA 1150 which means LGA 1155 is a dead socket.Official RPS Thread argument catalyst.
30-03-2013, 06:46 PM #7
On the other hand, Haswell will only barely be a bigger upgrade than Ivy Bridge was.
30-03-2013, 08:34 PM #8
30-03-2013, 11:20 PM #9
Well I did I use to be into building my own PCs back in the time.
The thing is that I'm completely clueless about today's stadards. And time is an important factor, I'm on my second year of medical residence and I just want to come home and be able to play a game I want.
Thanks for all the replies.
Also I've never had an ATI card before, just nVidia, what would be the equivalent nVidia card?
31-03-2013, 12:45 AM #10
The 7870 is slightly faster than the Geforce GTX 660 (on average, it varies from game to game).
12-04-2013, 12:31 AM #11
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I would suggest downgrading that processor to i5-3570k (or even lower) and put more money into the graphics card.
Before New Years, I still used a Core2Duo E6600. It was six years old. Or something like that. It was paired with a Geforce GTX 460. Now, granted, I'm only playing in 1680x1050 but that rig could play anything i threw at it. Mostly. With the latest shooters coming out these past six months, when lots of things happened on the screen, the CPU just couldn't handle it.
So shortly after New Years, I bought an i3570k. I'm a bit upset about not being able to play Crysis 3 at the absolute maxed out settings without getting below 30 fps, but I think the ol' GTX 460 deserves some credit. It is old by now, like two years or something, and it can't quite handle it no more. I was thinking of getting a monitor with higher resolution anyway. Why not a new graphics card as well? yay!
Long story short: You can buy an i3 and still have to replace the graphics card before the CPU. Put more money into graphics.
12-04-2013, 10:47 AM #12
17-04-2013, 08:37 PM #13
Get an SSD, will change your life.
18-04-2013, 01:34 AM #14
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I decided on an i5-3550, the premium for the 3570k at the time didn't seem worth it.
Also, the Newegg PSU calculator seems way - it's suggesting 483w for an i5 3550, 8gb ram, dvd-rw, 7870 and 3 HDDs.
Anandtech tested three different 7870's (stock and max overclock) with an overclocked i7 3960x, 16gb RAM, a high end SLI mobo and an SSD and even overclocked, the total system power consumption didn't break 350w.
People tend to overspend and overbuy on PSU's, unless you're running SLI/CF you're unlikely to need more than 450w.
18-04-2013, 03:01 AM #15
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Speaking of, I just installed a new PSU, a third HDD and a DVD-RW (previously running an OCZ 450w modstream PSU, an SSD, a 2TB HD and no optical drive).
Idle @ desktop with 0% hdd/cpu usage with OCZ 450w PSU: 62.9w
Furmark burn in test: 230w
Idle @ desktop with 0%hdd/cpu, extra HDD and DVD-RW with Antec EA Platinum certified 450w PSU: 51w
Furmark burn in test: 197w
18-04-2013, 03:58 PM #16
FYI: overclocked cpu's don't draw power at a sustained rate, they pull below 50w on idle but can suck in up to 200w for short bursts on load.
From experience, I don't go below an 80w PSU if I am planning to serious overclock the PC. The 800w PSU is not for the wattage but rather the extra cooling and redudancy built in due to the higher cost - cheaper PSU's have none of that and with overclocking raising ambient temps inside the case it's better to be safe than sorry.
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18-04-2013, 04:18 PM #17
A 450W power supply running at 85% efficiency - which is NOT the guaranteed efficiency of the most expensive PSUs - will provide up to 450W sustained power to the components (plus typically another 10-15%, but that's beyond what you're promised), while drawing ~529W from the socket. PSUs are rated by the power they deliver to components, not the power they draw from the wall.
The highest-rated PSUs are the ones that are 80+ Titanium certified. This means they're at least 90% efficient at loads ranging from 10% to 100%.
Overloading a PSU will not make it fry your motherboard or implode, unless it's a bad power supply. Good ones will simply shut down once they sense that the current (or power) drawn is too high.
Using a higher-wattage PSU means efficiency will be LOWER, which isn't going to help you at all when overclocking or when trying to make a quiet system. Plus a poor 800W PSU will often fall short of what a quality 500W PSU can deliver. It is important not to focus blindly on wattage; quality is much more important.
18-04-2013, 04:33 PM #18
This happened to me before, with an Enermax 500w.
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