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25-07-2014, 10:15 AM #1
All right, my knowledge of PC components and building/upgrading a desktop are, to put it nicely, limited. But I know that around here there are a few people with the knowledge, so I hope that you guys would be able to help me out/get me started.
I was looking into the possibilities of upgrading my desktop to keep up, as due to budget constrains I will not be able to do a full replacement any time soon.
So, what part would be most beneficial to upgrade first? Or is it, don't bother and save up for a full replacement, can't be saved.
I thank you for your help.
AMD Athlon II X4 635 2.90 GHz
Asus Radeon HD 5670 1024 MB
Kingston HyperX Dual Channel 4 GB, PC3-10666, 1333 MHz, 7, Non-ECC, Kit Of 2
Kingston HyperX Dual Channel 8 GB, PC3-10666, 1333 MHz, 7, Non-ECC, Kit Of 2
WD Caviar GP 500 GB, 5400 Rpm, 32 MB, S-ATA II/300
Samsung SH-S223C/BEBE S-ATA
Antec Basiq Series BP-430EC 430 Watt , 20+24 Pins
25-07-2014, 10:36 AM #2
Graphics card & SSD.
How much space do you have, and is the GPU card a PCIe 16x?
25-07-2014, 10:44 AM #3
25-07-2014, 10:53 AM #4
Then you should be fine, You can either buy the older HD 78xx models, which are good and cheaper, or you go for the newest AMD stuff which should probably fit as well.
As for an SSD, you can still use the 500gb HDD, and get a 128gb one extra where you install the OS on, for about 70-80€.
Itll make all of the file stuff as well as loading games and so on quicker. The CPU should still be great for games, and I think 12gb of RAM is quite enough.
So youre looking at about 200€ if you go for the older GPU, probably 300-350 if you get a newer GPU.
25-07-2014, 01:15 PM #5
Your CPU isn't completely embarrassing, and the power supply would support at least a moderately powerful graphics card. A GTX 750 Ti if you want to save power, or eg. an R7 260X or R9 270 if you're more interested in getting the most performance for your money. The R9 270 is about the most your power supply would work with (only has one 6-pin PCIe power connector).
25-07-2014, 01:18 PM #6
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25-07-2014, 07:39 PM #9
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A good way to tell whether to upgrade your CPU or your video is to run a game that you enjoy, that isn't running as fast as you'd like, at a resolution one step higher than you care about, and watch the frame count, maybe with something like Fraps. If you're losing like 1% of your fps, you need a new CPU. If you're losing 10% or more of your frame rate, you need a new video card.
I offer that advice because everybody's needs are slightly different. At an extreme end, if you're a Counterstrike fiend with a 14" CRT, you're probably going to get more out of a new CPU than out of a new video card.
As you suggest, you would probably save more by waiting for a new computer as compared to upgrading. What is your computer doing poorly? What are you unhappy with?
28-07-2014, 08:51 PM #10
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in the summer time, you'll be able to cook on that AMD processor, go with Intel the the i7 4th generation, trust me, it's a beast ready to serve.
Go for a two disk solution, get an SSD for your OS / basic applications and get a HDD for your games, typically games don't use the hard disk much so you'll be fine.
You need a good graphics card and a good processor, and LOTS of memory, I'd recommend no less than 8 gigs, more if you can fit it.
The motherboard, while important, won't make much difference as anything else, the more you pay for it the longer it'll last, but that's about it, other stuff on it depends on the max amount of memory which you'll never be able to reach anyway so don't bother about it. I had a $100 gigabyte board last me 7 years without a hitch.
But if you really want top-notch go for ASROCK.
29-07-2014, 01:47 AM #11
29-07-2014, 11:30 AM #12
29-07-2014, 12:58 PM #13
Note that a larger process node generally also means more power will be used overall. With a smaller process node, the power consumption of the CPU would have been lower - but it would also have been smaller to the point where the amount of heat transfer needed per surface area would have increased.
29-07-2014, 02:56 PM #14
The die size on the 635 is 169mm2. The 4770k is 177mm2. That's larger, even though it's on a smaller process node.
So, not true.
29-07-2014, 03:39 PM #15
The Athlon II x4 635 has no integrated GPU. The Core i7-4770K has a large integrated GPU. Unlike the Core i7-4770K, the Athlon has no L3 cache.
07-08-2014, 01:31 PM #16
Grab me on Steam, Dom, we can have a chat :)