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28-08-2012, 03:09 PM #61
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28-08-2012, 03:12 PM #62
useless euphemism akin to "any form of politics I don't like," as compared to the actual definition of fascism.
Nationalism, however, does have a built-in overtone to worldview: "I am a citizen of X (and X is better than you)." As GBShaw put it, "patriotism is the conviction that your country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it."
Consequently, I'd like to call bullshit in the "I didn't own any slaves, therefore I'm not responsible" defense. We don't live in a vacuum, and today is the result of yesterday.
28-08-2012, 03:19 PM #63
I am not proud of the past, but grateful for it, otherwise we wouldnt be where the hell we are right now.
That being said, Im from belgium, moved to austria. I cant stand belgium, but I love the fuck out of austria. (well, atleast out of Vienna).
Dont care much for its accomplishments though, but I could name some probably dubious facts:
- Lounge (genre) was invented in Vienna.
- Austria "started" the first world war.
- No colonies were owned by Austria (Belgium did though)
- an Austrian invented beaming.
- Its one of the (few) still stable Euro Zone countries.
28-08-2012, 07:19 PM #64
29-08-2012, 02:40 AM #65
The apologist route is often taking the pointless moral high-ground and it's an easy target. But we'd best not get into indigenous issues, because it's too complicated/any discussion invariably devolves into someone taking that moral highground and ignoring every possible suggestion to improve things.
30-08-2012, 05:05 PM #66
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30-08-2012, 10:39 PM #68