SWTOR Trailers: Sith And Hope

By Jim Rossignol on June 15th, 2010 at 3:19 pm.


The Old Republic is quietly rumbling away in the background of our consciousness, and it seems to gradually be gaining momentum. It was always going to be a big deal, but with PvP and such being revealed at E3 this week I think we will start to see it really begin to grip the fevered minds of the MMO masses. And frankly, from everything I’ve seen so far, there are reason to be interested in what Bioware are doing. Below are the most recently animated outpourings from the dev army, a look at the Sith class, and an animated short about the battles for Alderaan.

WARNING: For some reason the videos both auto-play, so you might want to pause one unless you’ve got two attention centres in your brain, or something.

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  1. Tuco says:

    Sure, Blur cinematics are pure gold, but I’m not nearly excited about this game.

    • yogSo says:

      Paradoxically, as I have zero interest in the game (or MMOs in general), I’ve just taken this opportunity to enjoy a quite exciting and well-directed CGI SW-based short-film. Even though the main characters of this story were all walking archetypes, the non-presence of Whiny Skywalker has been a plus, too.

    • Wulf says:

      The CGI sequences were amazing, really. I could watch more of that. If only Bioware were making a film instead.

  2. fnsmatt says:

    Buff lightsabers please.

    • Pantsman says:

      In the time of the war with the Sith Empire, much of the closely-guarded knowledge that had once been used to build lightsabers had been lost, and the lightsabers then wielded by the Jedi and Sith were pale reflections of those that were common just a few centuries prior. It would be thousands of years before this lost knowledge would be regained.

    • Melf_Himself says:

      ‘Sif she stops the lightsaber with her hand.

  3. Yargh says:

    should more games use cast off trail bike mudguards as shoulder pads?

  4. BinhoF says:

    needs more sllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooow motiooooooooooooooooooon

  5. Dubious says:

    Here’s a fancier quality trailer 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdEEwQeYhUs&feature=youtube_gdata

    I don’t like the way the lightsabers look in the game though, I don’t think they’re glowy enough.

  6. Dubbill says:

    If you want more yummy cinematics, the Force Unleashed 2 trailer is good:

    http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-the-force/101182

    And it’s coming to PC so it’s RPS relevant.

  7. Daniel says:

    looks good, but i will not be getting this.
    TOR killed almost all chances of kotor 3.
    kotor ftw.

  8. The Great Wayne says:

    Regarding the first video:

    HA DOU KEN !

  9. laikapants says:

    Still eagerly waiting on the eventual reveal of the Player Races list (I realize that’s a Twi’lek in the screen above, but so far all non-humans have been shown as companions not PCs, IIRC). And hopefully the ships = player base means you can wander around inside your ship and not just gaze at its pretty hull. I hope even more than I can wander around other people’s ships.

    Other than that, yay delectable TOR trailers.

  10. Tei says:

    Stop teasing me bro!

    I love the first video :-)
    STOR could fail as a mmo, but It already succeed at creating the best cinematic ever.

  11. dwfoljkbfoihhw says:

    Spoiler Alert: The actual game is going to be absolutely NOTHING like Trailer 1, save for the fact that there will be light sabers and guns.

  12. AndrewC says:

    Of oh course god i’ve i’m got so two confused attention by centres these in simultaneous my videos brain.

    • Vague-rant says:

      I see what you did there.

      To be honest, that seems more like a split personality disorder, who just happen to rapidly interchange… Not quite as useful as two attention centers in your brain, but at least you get parking spaces(I hope).

    • AndrewC says:

      You’re cor right blimey of would course you I look should at have the worked knockers the on joke that through they’re more enormous thoroughly.

  13. benjamin says:

    That was awesome!

  14. Meat Circus says:

    How’s it going to play, though?

    I suspect the answer is “like Mass Effect 2″ which is abso-bloody-lutely fine by me.

    • DrGonzo says:

      I suspect like KOTOR 1 and 2 and not like Mass effect at all really.

    • bob_d says:

      Most likely it’ll be closer to WoW than any of those…

    • Wulf says:

      Having seen videos of the alpha being played, I can say with a large amount of accuracy: This will play exactly like World of Warcraft, but with a Star Wars skin.

      - Many bars on screen? Check.
      - Billion button syndrome? Check.
      - So, Warcraft’s UI, basically then? Check.
      - Static combat where everyone performs their animations whilst standing on the spot, thus showing everything is handled by numbers? Check.
      - Low-poly approach with things (like shoulder pads and lightsabers) made massive beyond reason to appeal to the ‘omgepic’ kiddie crowd? Check.

      I’m not kidding or lying, honestly, look up ‘star wars the old republic’ on YouTube yourself, it looks like all the worst elements of World of Warcraft, the most bloody awful parts that Blizzard seems to be finally reneging on and moving beyond, albeit very slowly.

      Hence I don’t find this game appealing in the least.

      But please, Bioware, please make a movie-length CGI feature about this game. I will buy that.

  15. sfury says:

    Why do I keep misreading “sith” as “shit”? WHY GOD WHY???

  16. Meat Circus says:

    I am totally gonna be me some Bounty Hunter scum.

  17. Kurt Lennon says:

    My guess is that this will follow EA’s last attempt at publishing an MMO, Warhammer Online, in that it will be a big success in initial sales and barely alive a year later.

    As far as I can tell, it doesn’t do anything new, different or interesting, and even if it did Star Wars is just too kiddish and played out to gain mass appeal.

    • Tei says:

      MMO’s take soo long to make, that by the time you finished it, you forget how to make games.
      Theres a reason newbie game devs get the advice to make small games. Making lots of small games, you get a lot of experience. 1 year making 10 games, is like 10 years of experience. 10 years making 1 game is like 1 year of experience. Do you see where I am going? 5 years of experience making a MMO is like 0.5 years of experience of game dev’s. You absolutelly waster 5 years of your life. Five years, only one game on your resume, a lazy guy are you?

    • bob_d says:

      “…big success in initial sales and barely alive a year later…”
      Yeah, I suspect that not only will all that voice-acted dialog not work as well as expected in the context of an MMO, but that it will cause any expansion content to take forever to produce and be rather slim, by which point players will have already left the game.

  18. JonSmith says:

    Gameplay footage indicates “WoW-like” gameplay. Run up, press buttons, wait for cooldown, press again. Jump-up if you are Sith Warrior. Run to cover if cover class. Opponents will do same to you.

    • Koozer says:

      Yeah, can’t believe their audacity of making us walk around and press buttons to do things. lazy design.

    • Wulf says:

      @Koozer

      Not the point. Point is this…

      Hey, I’m moving around a lot, how and where I move matters. The combat is fluid and contextual, so what I press and when matters, it feels great! I actually feel involved. Wheee!

      Versus…

      I’m a standing here… watchin’ cooldowns… pressin’ buttons… watchin’ cooldowns… pressin’ buttons… watchin’ cooldowns…. pressin’ but–oh, grind mob #1 died. I’ll move to the next. I’m a standin’ here… watchin’ cooldowns… pressin’ buttons… watchin’ cooldowns… so many cooldowns… bars of cooldowns… and just pressing buttons… like a monkey with a food pellet machine… just pushing buttons… this is so depressing… oh Gods kill me now…

      Big difference. >.>

  19. teo says:

    I thought we decided that the lightsabre masturbatory version of Star Wars wasn’t the one we liked yet that’s the one they’re trying to convey in all the trailers. It’s lost all its magic, that CGI crap is as generic as the trailer for any random franchise. Lucas did a lot to ruin Star Wars but he sure wasn’t alone

    • Dave says:

      “we?” Who are you speaking for?

    • The Great Wayne says:

      I’m guessing he’s talking for the hordes of SW nerds that cursed the newest trilogy. Whom I support btw, as it was mostly crap.

      Or maybe he’s voicing the opinion of his hivemind. Who knows.

    • Wednesday says:

      Oh good lord. They release a really fun trailer, and all half the folk around here can do is whinge. It’s like I just got a toy X-Wing for Christmas and some cynical uncle came along and stamped on it.

    • Melf_Himself says:

      Give me your nerd card please. The lightsaber masturbatory stuff was/is/always will be awesome. People didn’t believe the characters in the new movies.

  20. Koozer says:

    Did…did she just trip someone up with a laser sword?

  21. teo says:

    I’m mean shit, they even use the music from the terrible movies

  22. WiPa says:

    THAT FIRST TRAILER IS AWESOME.
    It’s so Star Warsy, in a PEW PEW PHSWING PEW CRASH way.

    Most amazing game trailer i’ve ever seen.

  23. DarkNoghri says:

    I have zero interest in buying this, as I don’t play MMOs (not subscription ones, anyway), and while I quite like the action: Seriously?

    The game takes place what, 4000 years before the films, and everything looks the same? Storm Troopers, Star Destroyers, the bad guys used droids, etc. This looks like something that takes place a decade before the films, if that. Certainly not millennia.

    I don’t even want to get into the lightsabers not cutting things. :/

    • The Great Wayne says:

      It’s the f***ing force glove power, it’s also useful to pull very hot things out of the oven.

    • The Great Wayne says:

      And yay at edit: on a more serious note, I find kinda annoying that the game clearly appear to be strictly censored from anything that could be too violent for a young audience:

      - Lightsabers do not decapitate troopers
      - Explosion send people flying in the air, power rangers style
      - Gruesome execution from the sith bad guy happens off screen
      - etc.

      If anything I don’t think the SW franchise needs more disneyland-level stuff.

    • bleeters says:

      “Gruesome execution from the sith bad guy happens off screen”

      Yeah, Bioware have a habit of doing that, for some reason. It was especially bizare in Dragon Age given that beheading and the like was fairly commonplace in combat.

    • DarkNoghri says:

      I wasn’t even referring specifically to the blocking of the lightsaber with the hand, so much as the slashing people and not having it do anything (the aforementioned tripping someone with the lightsaber, for instance).

      I’ve read enough of the novels and know enough of the lore that I can actually believe a Jedi could do that if highly enough specialized. Several Jedi were known for deflecting/absorbing blaster bolts, and that effect could technically be explained by cortosis ore armor, although that isn’t the specific effect that is supposed to occur.

      Other annoying thing: a grenade goes off in the guys hand, with the other guy two feet away. Neither are wearing helmets. Both should be dead. Neither appear to be. At the very least, the trooper should be dead, as the Sith could have done something.

    • Medina says:

      Im wondering why there are what appear to be Jengo clone troopers when he won’t be born for a few thousand years. Seems to be some continuity issues.

      And the gameplay in the second vid looks like garbage

    • Thiefsie says:

      I had a nerdrage argument with a mate about this…

      The grenade is supposedly an ion detonator (ie… emp) which is even more stupid than it being a woefully underpowered thermal detonator. What the hell is that going to do??? zap you?

      How can a single grunt… possibly an elite commando take on a sith and live… (?!?!?!) how can the girl absorb lightsabre (apparently some jedi can absorb the force – seems stupid to me)

      Why does this trailer follow cliched star wars tropes like a double sided sabre, being cut in two.

      Also, hmm I’ll just happily hold down my sabre on another chicks sabre while I cheerfully watch her force pull a tree on me easily enough.

      Fact of the matter is… even back then when there were a bazillion jedi, the others had no chance… so in an mmo if you aren’t a jedi how can you have a chance??? It just doesn’t work.

      Either way I’m not interested in an mmo so it doesn’t really bother me… but I did love the SW universe a while ago… sadly not anymore. TFU2 is not much better. Why doesn’t Vader just kill him, or for that matter why doesn’t he kill Vader??? Oh I know… because he can’t as that would break canon… He’s only the most powerful sith there has ever been…. grrrr…

  24. beeg says:

    Is this Star Wars or Dragon Ball? I’m confused.

  25. Nick says:

    What the fuck was that, stopping a lightsaber with her hand? And then.. firing magical blasts out later? Looked like crap to me.

    • Tei says:

      The canon reply is that SW is space opera and as always been like that. Is based on Flash Gordon adventures, enemies like Fumanchu, and the like. But you have a point.

      What I would love to see is iconic KOTOR images. Maybe the type of drones, aliens, ships you see in KOTOR. KOTOR was a success as a better star wars than star wars. I don’t know why are not using that success.

    • The Great Wayne says:

      Simple answer to that Tei: Lucasarts, WoW audience.

    • Nick says:

      But Star Wars has never had Jedi blocking sabres with hands, I mean that sort of defeats the whole point of using one. Unless its some stupid expanded universe guff. Ditto with the force hadooken =(

      I can just about let the I’m a Jedi and thus explosions can’t hurt me thing pass, but really.. even in the crappy new films Jedi weren’t that super invulnerable.

  26. Chris D says:

    My head still says no but you’d have to have a heart of stone not to be at least a little bit interested after that first video

  27. Dolphan says:

    Who cares about the film, can they just extend that cinematic into some new star wars films using CGI? That was better than any action sequence from the prequels …

  28. tikey says:

    Bioware should be managing the Star Wars franchise instead of George Lucas.

  29. Mr_Day says:

    Since, as we all know, trailers are not allowed to include stuff we can’t do in the game, I am very happy to see we will have Godmode, the ability to hold a grenade in your hand and have it do more damage to your target, and destructible terrain*.

    * Not a guaranty, always check with your bank before making cheques your body can’t cash, your home is at risk if I set fire to it.

  30. Kid A says:

    Can Bioware please be put in charge of a CGI Star Wars prequel-prequel?

    a) Old Republic has enough canon left to be uncovered that there’s a wealth of material there

    b) THey clearly have better, more coherent ideas of what to do with it than the legion of fanfic writers who appear to currently be the only ones exploring it

    c) IT CAN’T BE WORSE THAN THE LUCAS PREQUELS.

  31. Wednesday says:

    My lord, that trailer! It was great! Great, great, great! Just like the other one.(the “Decieved” rendered thing, not the other one up on here)

    How can a group of video game devs suceed where an entire film studio failed? I’ve wrung more pure Star Warsy joy from Bioware’s short trailers than I did any of the recent films.

    • The Great Wayne says:

      “I’ve wrung more pure Star Warsy joy from Bioware’s short trailers than I did any of the recent films.”

      You say that like there was some kind of challenge in doing so.

    • jaheira says:

      Yep. This and “Deceived” must be the two best CGI trailers I’ve ever seen.

  32. Sobric says:

    The contrast between the combat in the CGI trailer and the actual gameplay footage could not be more stark. By which I mean the CGI trailer is awesome, and I could happily watch stuff like it all day; the gameplay footage was a bit wank.

  33. Alaric says:

    Bioware and Lucas Arts can shove this game. Now this… THIS I will play!

    Warhammer 40K is a better setting than Star Wars, Warcraft, and Starcraft combined. For the Emperor!

  34. Tei says:

    Note to self: Wen fighting Lord Siths, I will not thrown my heavy turbolaser to run to him and try to stab him with my tiny knife. He will eletrocute me and trown me away like a puppet.

  35. Karthik says:

    Funny how the cinematic reminds me of Republic Commando. They’ve used similar music for the part where the troops jump down too.

  36. Bantros says:

    Each new gameplay video I see of this game does it’s best to extinguish hopes of it being amazing. Combat looks so poor and the animations are terrible. Yeah it’s still a while from a release but surely it’s supposed to look more promising as time passes?

  37. BeamSplashX says:

    If I was interested in playing this, I’d chose a Sith character solely based on how they say “Jedi.”

  38. fallingmagpie says:

    Hmm. The awesomeness of the cinematic only makes the actual gameplay footage look jerkier, cartoonier and generally a bit wank. Not sure they haven’t shot themselves in the foot a bit with these excellent short fillums.

  39. laikapants says:

    You CAN go inside your ship, happy day. (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-star-wars/101638)

    I’m a bit surprised people are surprised by the gameplay. Disregarding Bioware’s action-y titles, they have pretty much ALL been like this and that’s pre-WoW. Not saying there isn’t a prevelant WoW-influence, just that it isn’t something Bioware hasn’t used in the past. Heck even Dragon Age used it and a fair number rejoiced. If it isn’t your cuppa, it isn’t your cuppa.

    I will say this, after finally playing the Witcher (well, I’m 3 hours in) I would have love love loved the gameplay to be akin to that.

  40. skalpadda says:

    hmm, would Vader be that stupid though? Can’t imagine him leaving a few storm troopers and expecting them to kill a force user :S

  41. MultiVaC says:

    I’m a bit confused… I haven’t been following the game, but I was under the impression that it would be taking place in the KOTOR era Old Republic, which is about 4,000 years before the rise of the Empire. But this clearly looks like it takes place during the rise of the Empire, and if that’s the case, then where did all these other Sith come from?

  42. Talorc says:

    Lucas should be forced to watch both trailers many times over – LIKE THIS GEORGE YOU FUCKWIT

  43. laikapants says:

    @MultiVaC: There are A LOT of Sith Empires (some are lesser than others, naturally): http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_Empire

  44. Carra says:

    Great trailer… which has nothing to do with the actual game.

    Does make me wonder again how they’ll prevent 75% of all players being a Jedi…

  45. b says:

    TOR is meant to be KOTOR 3 , 4,5,6,7,8,9,10

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