Rock, Paper, Shotgun

No Oceans: Call For Worldwide Release Dates

By John Walker on March 22nd, 2011 at 5:53 pm.

I imagine this is how God must have felt.

Crysis 2 comes out today! And Lego Star Wars III! Hooray! Except of course, only if you drawl your vowels. These two big games are out in America only today. Crysis 2 reaches Australia on Thursday, and the finally completes its journey to Europe by Friday. Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars is taking a three day journey to Europe to reach us by Friday, before then walking to Australia to eventually be released eight days after its US launch. We’ve had enough.

No Oceans is RPS’s campaign to have the UK release day for games changed to Tuesday, to come into line with North America. Which will be a lot of work. It means convincing retail to change their delivery days, and reschedule their systems. But we think it’s worth it, both for them and for customers. Here’s why.

There’s an internet now. It’s changed everything. Once we were separate nations kept apart by vast spreads of water. But the internet contains no oceans. The time was a game could come out in North America and we’d not hear about it until the boats arrived carrying news from the new country. But now we can see the Steam page, the giant clocks on the game websites counting down to a day that means nothing, the launch trailers and excitable press releases about something we can’t have yet.

The internet, as depicted by Otto Nassar.

There is nothing publishers like to worry about more than piracy. But like a person with a fear of heights choosing to live in a cable car in space, they do seem to go out of their way to encourage it. Making loud noises about releasing a game – a game that will then be discussed across the internet by those who have completed it in the next couple of days – is a sort of international version of teasing. Impatient gamers, who would very much like to slap down their £30, find that the only way to get the game their friends are playing, and indeed to play the game with their friends, is to download it. It’s about the only realistic evidence for those who like to equate piracy with lost sales.

Which punishes digital download services. Those in the US can click here to pay for the game to download. Those in the UK and elsewhere can’t. But they can click there to download the same game for free.

And this hurts retail too. In a competitive, download-service-led world, launching the big name game on a Friday is almost embarrassing. It’s a bit like GAME announcing they’re going to wait until next Tuesday to start selling the NDS, and are opening at midnight to do it! And this isn’t exclusive to PC games. While only a limited number of Xbox and PS3 titles are being launched in their digital download stores at the moment, this is likely to continue to change, letting gamers more clearly see that they don’t have access to a product their Stateside friends are enjoying. Never mind that the very same problems of online promotion, trailers, and websites all carry information letting console owners know they are being forced to wait too. Your buddies on Xbox Live are all enjoying a multiplayer game of Crysis 2, while you’re looking at your pre-order form in dismay. Or that torrent site.

So we want an end to this. There’s no reason for it any more. Shops selling games are inevitably sitting on piles of the product they’re not allowed to sell until the arbitrary release date. One manager of a game shop recently told me how frustrating it is for them as a retailer to know they have a product their customers want to buy, but are artificially delayed from selling it. Who is this protecting? Publishers and shops tend to love the phrase, “customers want to buy”. And of course it’s even more ludicrous for online retailers, who are prevented from pressing a button. And Americans – don’t think you’re on the lucky side. You only just got Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood on PC today, while we’ve been rolling around in it all weekend.

So we plan to investigate this fully. We will attempt to speak to representative of the major publishers, developers and retailers, to find out what it would take to see the UK’s game release date changed to Tuesday. We’ll try to get the arguments for and against, and hopefully unite a passionate gaming internet into one loud voice calling for simultaneous release dates. It’s not the most important issue facing society today, of course not. But we’re a site about playing games, so our priorities are pretty well set in perspective from the start. We want our games at the same time as our American friends, and publishers and retailers want to do all they can to stop piracy and encourage sales.

If you’re a gaming site and you want to join in this campaign, get in touch. A united front will be far more effective, and it always looks great when competitors work together. Like that time Dennis Potter had Channel 4 and BBC 1 share Cold Lazarus. And if you, passionate reader, want to get involved, comment below with suggestions and ideas for the campaign. I can’t do everything – I had to spend ages on that photoshop.

I think we can get this changed. It won’t be easy. We’re ushering in a new Pangaea. Because the internet has no oceans. It’s time for gaming to catch up.

Oh, go on then, let’s all sign a petition.

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217 Comments »

  1. evilbobthebob says:

    I wholly agree and think this is a wonderful idea. Good luck RPS. You’ll need it.

  2. Conor says:

    You have my sword, sir.

  3. QuantaCat says:

    I sign this. If possible.

  4. QuantaCat says:

    Also, you could create a video of angry gamers demanding internet releases on time.

  5. Hunam says:

    Thing is, games can release on a tuesday, like Shogun 2 did not last week. Call of Duty and Halo and Half-Life 2 all release on tuesdays too. So it shouldn’t be hard to get all games to follow suit no?

  6. Bilbo says:

    Show me where to sign, I’ll sign it, vote, I’ll vote for it, but all the same I’m not holding my breath for change here

  7. Mike says:

    I guess what we really want is for the digital stores to stop doing it, right? If the high street wants to continue foot-shooting, it’s welcome to, but at least the digital distribution sites shouldn’t be restricted.

    • randomnine says:

      If digital distribution sites broke with retail on launch dates or RRP for a title, high street chains wouldn’t promote it (or stock it) as heavily. That would mean less sales for that game, so the publisher leans on digital distribution to play fair.

      This isn’t strictly a retail-vs-DD issue. The same dynamic is in play forcing individual retailers to honour launch dates. They could make a killing by selling the game early, but the other chains would object to the publisher, and in turn…

      This stuff has to be fixed at retail or it won’t be fixed at all.

  8. esbates7 says:

    its easier to get games on this side of the pond since we are so crass. the need to prim and proper them up for the European releases ;-)

    seriously though, what gives. no differences in coding and i assume the localization is all done prior to publication in the good ol’ USAAAAAAA.

  9. Greg Wild says:

    Signed!

  10. Nick says:

    and MY axe

  11. pakoito says:

    Heh! 3DS is supposed to be released on 25th but most shops in Madrid are already selling it because one of them started to and they were making KRAZY MONEYS.

  12. Mashakosha says:

    I’m behind you 100%. If what you say is true and retailers too are frustrated by it, then I believe you can get some considerable weight behind you. Go, RPS! Lead the way!

  13. Freud says:

    It’s hard to vote with your wallet in this case, unless you want to be a pirating douchebag. I mean, I still want to reward the developers with my purchase, even if I am not allowed to do it until it’s released here.

    It’s retailers that needs to put pressure on publishers, especially online retailers.

  14. Tei says:

    I think Holywood relaxed the rules about how much time people have to wait to buy a movie in DVD format, wen is not show in theaters anymore.

    The way things are now, is like all games are USA exclusives, and we buy a second hand version, we buy the old version, the one everyone as already seen firt and commented first. We are subject to global spoiling. In this climate, game studios choose to serve us food cold.

  15. mcwizardry says:

    Signed. BTW, I saw Crysis 2 for all platforms at a large retailer here in Austria today but they probably won’t activate until the end of the week on PC.

  16. arccos says:

    I guess you have to start somewhere, but why change the release day to a certain day of the week at all? Is there a reason retail likes to release all their product on a certain day?

    I get why retailers can’t release their stock as soon as it comes off the truck, since different retailers probably get their stock in different shipments and it wouldn’t really be fair to allow a “first to release” shop. Same for digital, since the publisher wants all of the hype/advertising to lead up to a certain day instead of whenever the master gets to Steam or whatever. I guess.

    Do retailers have the flexibility to release one game on Tuesday, one on Thursday, and one on Saturday? And are you pushing for releases worldwide to be in the same day, or at the same exact (worldwide) time?

  17. StingingVelvet says:

    I just want to say thanks for your solution NOT being “get rid of packaged media.” I was worried that would be your solution, but it was not. Us box-addicts are appreciative.

    And I 100% agree with the article.

  18. QualityJeverage says:

    I’m in Canada so we (usually) get games the same day as the US anyway. I’m still with you though. This whole concept of a release that is “rolled out” internationally in just silly now. Maybe the boxed copies of a game aren’t released day and date with the US, fine. But there’s no reason you guys should have to wait an extra three days to grab a game on Steam.

  19. Ultra Superior says:

    Signed

  20. Navagon says:

    I’m definitely with you on this one.

  21. Teddy Leach says:

    I agree! I’ll sign.

    I’ve also posted about it to my blog, in an effort to drum up a few more signatures.

  22. Deano2099 says:

    As John touches on, it’d be one thing if this were just an unavoidable consequence of how things are set up, but publishers rely on this day-1 hype to help sell games, with countdown clocks, sponsoring midnight launches and all that jazz.

    That said, might be better/ more realistic to aim for Wednesday? Just because with the time difference, it’d mean it went on sale in Europe about 8 hours earlier than the US, and I don’t think they’d ever go for that (if you have to favour one audience slightly, it’ll always be the largest one).

    • Archonsod says:

      The point here is that if the game is up on Valve’s servers, then it should be accessible to anyone with Steam no matter where they are.
      And the time difference when it comes to hours has nothing to do with where the audience is and everything to do with where the publisher is based. Gamersgate tends to unlock games a few hours earlier than Steam solely because they’re based in CET while Steam is PST. I very much doubt either would pay their staff to work nightshift to sync a release, and I similarly doubt any large publisher of note is going to particularly care about a timezone difference.

  23. Dominic White says:

    Signed, endorsed, tweeted and generally agreed upon. Bring on the new age.

  24. Excalibur101 says:

    Signed! I live in America, so I’m not usually affected by the issue, but everyone is entitled to the same quality release-date-manship that I am used to.

  25. pbl64k says:

    You Brits are having it easy. You know when does Bulletstorm come out in Latvia? *Never*. I was falling over my feet to funnel a few bucks to the developers through Steam, but, apparently, our euros smell funny or something. At least I don’t know how else should I parse “not available in my “region”. Whatever.

    Remember that Wot I Think on DCUO? You people really sold me on it! Only Sony wouldn’t sell it to me, because, I guess, I’m too round-eyed and hairy for their refined Japanese sensibilities. Three-day delay? Puh-lease. With Homefront, that actually helped me to avoid spending my money on crap.

    • Tei says:

      A supercrappy solution for your problem could be to buy a account for internet by modem in some european country except germany. Then you will be connected to the internet trought this conexion. You can do that: buy the game / unlock the game trought modem, then disconnect from the modem, and download the game with your normal conexion.
      There use to be possible to use VPN to do that, but the last time I tried it with Steam, it failed. So seems Steam has become wiser here*
      The modem solution can be expensive, trought… maybe.. or maybe you can use a plan that let you flag a phone as special, then flag the phone of your modem ISP has this one :D
      *but hacker always find the way **
      ** At times I am tempted to rent a virtual server in USA, to use VPN with it to watch Hulu and Netflix. That probably will work. I don’t know why we europeans are not allowed to use Netflix…

    • pbl64k says:

      A fine solution to my problem is not giving my money to the morons who don’t want it.

      Also, don’t try that US VDS scheme of yours. Cheap plans are not designed for gratuitous media proxying and come with monthly traffic caps only sufficient for the purposes they’re meant for, like pre-production testing, small scale deployments, backup sites etc.

    • Archonsod says:

      “There use to be possible to use VPN to do that, but the last time I tried it with Steam, it failed. So seems Steam has become wiser here*”

      They’re just blacklisting anon-proxies as far as I can tell. Means you actually have to configure the connection properly rather than using the VPN shortcut, using a proxy they’re unlikely to block that will let the connection through (universities tend to be good for it, and I can’t see Valve wanting to drop college campuses from their customer base).

      Alternative is simply to crack the Steam version, though that definitely breaks the ToS and would result in account termination if caught. Nonetheless, given even pre-loads have been cracked I can’t see it taking longer than an hour for a region restriction to be removed.

    • JohnnyK says:

      Not that it solves the underlying issue, but…
      It should still be possible to gift you the game via Steam. I’ve done that loads of times for guys in Germany who wanted uncensored versions of eg. UT3, L4D etc. I also got MLB2k10 gifted to me via Steam, and that wasn’t available here in Austria either.

      Anyway, if you want we can try things; shoot me a pm. Of course the best way would be to ask an American as the game is then also cheaper than in €.

    • Archonsod says:

      Gifting isn’t a problem, it’s just getting around the region locking. You can gift a game from any region to any region as far as I’m aware. But if it’s not released in that region until Friday, then it’ll show up as a pre-order in the account until Friday.

      Unless of course you convince Steam you’re in that region.

    • JohnnyK says:

      Well, from how I understood it, pbl’s issue is not the release date but the game not being available _at all_.

    • pbl64k says:

      Not being available at all it is. Because GFWL, may its conceivers burn in fiery hell for all eternity, only recognizes the existence of some 35 countries out of 193.

  26. ArcaneSaint says:

    So, how are we gonna solve this? Stab bad guys? I think we should stab bad guys!

    oh, and /signed too. If you want I could set someone’s house on fire to ‘convince’ them to shift their release date :P

  27. DeathHamsterDude says:

    Huzzah!

    On the internet you can surf, but there are no oceans!

  28. Avenger says:

    I live in a third world country where it takes MONTHS for games to reach and at 3 times the prices.
    UK, You are being overcritical…

    • Nick says:

      worse things don’t cancel out bad things.

    • Avenger says:

      Yeah, I still agree with “Internet has no oceans” idea. I am just not content with RPS tackling it as a UK problem.

      It is actually a problem bigger than games. It is called “Global Content”.
      Providers are (for some backwards thinking reason) prevent their content from being sold or distributed to certain countries.

      Who can adequately defend the idea that is behind the “This video is not available in your country” thing?

      Our beloved digital distribution haven Steam does it too you know. Or don’t you? You probably don’t…

    • Teddy Leach says:

      You do realise that the petition covers the entire world? You do realise that the title for this post is “Call For Worldwide Release Dates”?

  29. ntw says:

    show me where to sign.

    Also, fix film release dates at the same time.

  30. Ricc says:

    I fully support this campaign! Bring on them gold masters!

  31. Stephen Roberts says:

    You better be careful RPS. Or you’ll start changing things for the better. Then everyone will want a piece. It’s a slippery slope to ‘doing things that make sense’, you know.

  32. jsbenjamin says:

    Hear, hear! Full disclosure: I’m a Yankee myself – but you’d think the video game industry especially wouldn’t be so resistant to moving into the 21st Century!

  33. Bantros says:

    Who even sells PC games in stores anymore? Because the real retail powerhouses like Tesco and Asda (who of course launch console games with ridiculously low prices because they can do what they want) have hardly any, and they aren’t brand new titles. GAME has abandoned PC games so they can fuck right off.

    Tuesdays are a stupid day for release anyway, damn Yanks. Quite clearly a Friday release is the most sensible as most people would have a weekend off. What the hell do you do on a Tuesday? Come home from work, have dinner, play a few hours, then a few more and ultimately ruin your next day because of your lack of sleep. Of course when I was a student queuing up for games at midnight it didn’t matter

    • StingingVelvet says:

      In the US many stores still stock PC games pretty well. Notably Best Buy, Target and Wal-Mart of all places. Also amazon.com obviously is a place to get boxed versions, usually delivered on release day for 99cents.

    • Archonsod says:

      GAME actually has their own digital download service, and it’s not particularly awful either.

    • DrGonzo says:

      GAME does indeed have a pretty good PC game download service. And also, I’ve said it here before actually, their PC section is often the biggest section in the shop, it’s just that a huge amount of it is budget or old games.

      It is easy to mistake the fact that GAME are shit in general with them being particularly shit with PC though I admit.

    • Bantros says:

      I should’ve stressed that I meant the retail store GAME and not their DD

  34. marach says:

    The most common reason I’ve heard bandied about is “We release then so we get better sales for the charts!” which is complete rubbish. If you look at the pattern though the games released on a Tuesday in the UK tend to be those that are either going to be no.1 in the charts no matter what or don’t care about their place in the charts.

    I wonder what would happen if the chart companies started insisting on games being on sale for at least 5 days before listing them..

  35. 7rigger says:

    Signed!

    Finally someone starts talking sense (Especially as most DVD’s are released on Mondays) about this. If a retail store could release on a Tuesday, they could see sales and re-stock in time for the weekend sales – or not.

    Everybody wins in this situation, and splitting release dates just complicates an issue that shouldn’t even be there.

    First Britain, then the world!

    EDIT: It’s quite fascinating seeing all the real names and locations show up on the petition. I’m playing a fun game where I try to guess who is who

  36. gorgol says:

    Sure why not. /Signed.

  37. Jubaal says:

    I totally agree with your stance, can’t think of any ideas at the moment, but just wanted to show my support.

    Edit: Oh folks, don’t just post here but complete Mr Walker’s Petition here: http://www.petition.co.uk/rock-paper-shotgun-says-no-oceans

    Need more signatures please.

  38. Frools says:

    Friday releases are particularly bad too because if you order from amazon/play/whatever and there are delivery issues (im looking at you HDNL!) theres a good chance you won’t get it until Monday

  39. jezcentral says:

    Signed. I like the digital global village.

  40. N'Al says:

    I’ll fully endorse this so long as it doesn’t entail me dancing nekkid through the streets.

    Actually, scratch that, I’ll do that too.

  41. RyanTimes says:

    HEAR HEAR

    Though i will say, it’s not any better on the off chance we get games released before the states. Like with the recent Pokemon Black/White release, the US release being delayed by a few days certainly did not help with the pirates. Nintendo never really follows suit with the rest of the industry does it though.

    As far as digital distribution is concerned, it is completely shooting themselves in the foot by withholding simultaneous release dates.

    I’m honestly pleased that you guys at RPS are doing this, it would be nice to know what the reason for specific release dates are. I’ve heard weekend releases are to maximise day one sales, it would be great to find out the other factors.

  42. Chufty says:

    Totally signed.

    Make sure we spam the press, gaming and otherwise, with this campaign. These things are all about momentum.

  43. ran93r says:

    I’m in. Particularly pissed today as Swarm launches on the PSN in Haymerica but we won’t see it until the 30th … not that I should be talking about console things but you know, illustrating my plight and all. I mean what’s the hold up, the translation? Hello = Ello Guvnor. (ok there are “other” european languages but I’m on a roll here)

  44. bansama says:

    I find it very funny that you’re getting so worked up over a few days wait for games. Try waiting several months to a year for a game to release. Just as one example, we’ve been waiting nigh on 7 months for Mafia 2 to release on Steam. We waited over 3 months for Red Faction Guerrilla to unlock on Steam. We have to wait until next month for Homefront. And the list goes on. A few days wait? Hah! I wish I could be so lucky.

  45. Jad says:

    As an American I would be fine if the US moved our date back to Friday. I’ve got a pre-ordered copy of Crysis 2 sitting at my apartment right now. I’ll be able to play for maybe 3 hours tonight, and then I’m busy every other night this week and won’t be able to play until Saturday anyway.

    But yes, please standardize release dates. Doesn’t matter what day of the week it is, but pick one and stick to it!

  46. MrWolf says:

    Signed.

    WHO’S WITH ME!?!?!

  47. skinlo says:

    Great plan!

  48. Alexander Norris says:

    Isn’t the fact that games are twice the price in the EU and Australia than they are in the UK and US worse for gamers than having to wait for three more days for a game to come out?

    Obviously, these idiotic release dates harm the games industry as well – but they harm the industry more than they harm us, unlike the arbitrary price differences.

    • Deano2099 says:

      Yes, but is that a battle that can be won? If Europe are paying those prices then I don’t see the incentive to reduce them…

      At least with this there’s a way of going “hey, this will make you more money too”

    • John Walker says:

      One industry changing campaign at a time.

    • JohnnyMaverik says:

      Yea but release dates are annoying. Australia in particular gets a lot worse than a few days delay sometimes.

    • Carra says:

      My thoughts exactly. Having to pay 50% more for my games is higher on my priority list.
      Still, having world wide release dates would be great and it’s really boggling why it’s not already so. Game publishers are cutting in their own pockets.

    • Tunips says:

      We might get a middle-east style rolling wave of change out of this. Sensible pricing would make a good Libya, after the Tunisia of release dates and the Egypt of region lockouts.
      Wait…

    • wu wei says:

      I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for Namco Bandai Partners to stop being cocks any time soon. They’ve been milking the Australian video game market for 30 years now.

  49. Sparks-A-Lot says:

    Well, quite appropriate for my first comment on this here site.

    This has been something that has stuck in my craw since I moved across the Atlantic. Fantastic article that makes many points I’ve been making on various message boards I frequent for the last two years. It reminds me of the music industry sticking to purely arbitrary policies in the face of rampant piracy and being unwilling to bend or break those policies even though it would obviously help battle people stealing their product. No, suing the offhand person for vast amounts of money they likely don’t have is the way to go!

    Fact is, gamers are an impatient lot. Here in the Netherlands many stores will stock a game a few days before the actual release date. I picked up Final Fantasy 13 this way, as well as Fallout New Vegas. FF13 was good to go (shame the game itself was a stinker, but that’s another discussion), unfortunately after installing FNV I received and error message saying the game’s release date hadn’t passed. So here I am, game in hand, money out of my pocket, yet I can’t play the game. For what reason? None what so ever. The only way around a situation like that is to download a crack. So then you have a person who legitimately purchased the game, but still is contributing to piracy in a small way just to be able to use the product they just purchased.

    The gaming industry is changing, and those releasing the games need to change with it. If they don’t there is a great possibility that they could end up like the music industry, and no one wants that.

  50. Om says:

    Contrary to what your header image suggests, Ireland is not in the United Kingdom. Nor, unless I’m very mistaken, is the Indian subcontinent. Which reveals this ‘No Oceans’ plea for what it really is: a neo-imperialist subterfuge designed to re-establish Britain’s place as the headquarters of global capital

  51. Dante says:

    I remember when we didn’t get games till months after the US! Kids today, don’t even know how lucky they are!

    NB: I am younger than all the RPS writers.

  52. Crumpled Stiltskin says:

    Call me Benedict Arnold , but as an American I will join your cause. Because, this can happen in the other direction as well. Also, you British are so polite sounding its hard to not root for you.

  53. Airemacar says:

    I rarely buy games at launch, and I’m an American so I usually can get them first, but I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment and think it is absolutely ridiculous to force retailers and distributors to artificially delay products which are ready to be released.

    In fact, with pricing differences between various markets, it may even be anti-competitive (games are often cheaper in dollars than pounds or euros, since companies for some reason think $50 = L50).

  54. frenz0rz says:

    Signed, and I’ll make a news post on my clan website for a bit of publicity.

  55. Phoshi says:

    You go, guys. Good luck, if you make even a single publisher change their mind, I will love you even more foreverer than I already will.

  56. jonfitt says:

    It’s silly to not align the days, but I find it hard to give more than a meh. I haven’t bought a game at release in so long I can’t remember the last one. Steam sales and a backlog of excellent games mean that I am not even aware of release dates or days.

    I hear Dragon Age 2 is out? That’s nice, but I have the Ultimate Edition of DA:O waiting for me to play. I’ll probably pick DA2 up when it’s cheap and includes all the divisive DLC.

    Release dates are for the impatient.

  57. Crescend says:

    Wonderful, it’s about time something was done about this situation. Viva la revolucion ^^

  58. GunFox says:

    You want every nation in the EU, the United States, New Zealand, and Aussie land to all reschedule their ENTIRE ELECTRONICS RETAIL sales tallying system so that there isn’t a 3 day gap between the first day of each system. The US starts on a Tuesday, and the EU (mostly) starts on a Friday. You get it second because the alternative would be Friday then Tuesday, which is a longer gap than the three day gap between Tuesday and Friday, and would make the problem worse.

    It pisses me off too, but it isn’t going to happen. They do it this way because nobody can produce a workable alternative.

    • Shadram says:

      If they can manage it for AAA movie releases, they can do the same for AAA game releases.

    • GunFox says:

      Movies release in movie theaters. A store totally designed to display new movies. What is being asked for here is for one small component of most stores to bring about a complete change in how they tally sales. Wal-Mart, Bestbuy, Target, and every other major chain retailer that sells games, but doesn’t specialize in them, are not going to completely alter their entire business plan so that video games release on the same day. This would ripple all sorts of changes outward across the retail industry of nations across the world for something that is ultimately not that important.

      I’m not arguing that it shouldn’t change, I’m just pointing out why it is extremely unlikely that it will or could.

    • Archonsod says:

      As you point out though, none of the stores selling games specialise in them, they couldn’t care less about the release date. The digital stores do and could.

    • GunFox says:

      They still want maximum profit from the section. Thus they tear publishers/developers a new one every time they try to give digital distribution an edge over brick and mortar.

      I know, I know, it is ridiculous, and I hate them for it, but I also understand their reasoning.

      The only way to support this campaign is to stop buying games from physical stores entirely. Physical stores are the only ones who really care about this enough to fight it.

      Basically it boils down to you either want video games to still appear in stores and can tolerate the staged releases, or you want the video game sections in stores to die almost universally and rely on online retailers and digital distributors entirely.

      Frankly I wouldn’t lament the loss of the physical videogame retailer, but I feel like some people may.

    • Shadram says:

      Retailers won’t stop stocking games if they changed the release date. Dedicated shops would otherwise have nothing to sell, and the big supermarkets (Asda, Tesco, etc) probably don’t care when they put the new games on the shelves, so long as they’re selling and making a profit. So long as digital and physical copies go on sale at the same time, retail should be satisfied. I mean, EBGames can’t exactly stop stocking EA games just because they’re released on Tuesdays instead of Fridays and expect to survive, can they?

    • drewski says:

      I find it very difficult to believe changing the date the sales week “starts” is *that* inconvenient.

      And even if it is, fuck ‘em. Customers are the point of retail, so retail can adapt to keep our custom.

  59. JB says:

    Signeded. Hurrah for RPS.

    So what’s the industry changing campaign after this?

  60. Shadram says:

    Despite living in New Zealand, and thus treated by the games industry like an unwanted appendage to the Earth’s anus (Australia), I endorse this petition.

    Will petitioning retail help, though? I mean, they don’t give a rats ass about selling games unless they’re second hand, and barely stock any PC games at all. Couldn’t we just convince publishers to just go ahead and release games for downloads simultaneously in all territories (for the same price, or is that asking too much?), which would force retail to either play along and release simultaneously, or be late to the party?

    • drewski says:

      I can’t speak for you sheep shaggers, but over here on the big island, EB tend to have a pretty big PC range. Of course, 30% of it is Sims expansions, but you can’t have everything.

      Game’s not as good, though. Then again, Game’s just a bit shit in general.

  61. Acosta says:

    Who I have to kill in the name of this sacred crusade? Mark a target for me and he/she will be history.

  62. wiper says:

    Signed up, though I’d be a little happier if that website acknowledged the existence of my county (that’d be Newport, or if you’re ten years out of date, Gwent).

    *shakes fist at stupid petition website*

  63. Po0py says:

    More of this please! More activisim in the games industry!

    Finally RPS pulls their finger out! Wooo! I think there needs to be some kind of Facebook thing going on with this too. What say you?. Not a bad idea to fight this on multiple fronts.

  64. LostSoviet says:

    I wholeheartedly agree that real-world game release disparities should have been rendered invalid by digital distribution. Obeying rules set out by the physical media distribution companies to carve up the world in borderline insane in the digital age.

    That said, my experience running my deals blog shows that even the internet has oceans. Just look at R.U.S.E. on Get Games – if you can, because it won’t show up while your currency is set to $. How long has that title been out? On the flipside, Impulse is infamous for snubbing everyone outside of North America with its discounts.

    Anyway, /signed and cross-posted to my blog. Hopefully, getting rid of the underlying cause (physical media restrictions) will help remove internet silliness.

    • Jad says:

      real-world game release disparities should have been rendered invalid by digital distribution

      I know that this is a PC gaming site, but still this complaint is incredibly myopic. All of the major publishers have very large stakes in console gaming, and consoles have not jumped on the digital distribution bandwagon to nearly the same degree as PC gaming. Maybe PC-only publishers like Paradox or Stardock could afford to say “screw you” to the retailers, but not EA or THQ or the others. Heck, even on PC the estimated sales split between digital and retail is still somewhere around 50/50, so it would be dangerous to do this for even PC-only releases.

      Which is why John is being smart and is focusing the attention of this petition primarily on retailers, as they still are who set the release dates. Make them change, and digital distributors can change too. But not the other way around.

    • Shadram says:

      It works the other way, though. If all the publishers said “we’re now doing simultaneous worldwide releases” then the retailers would very quickly adapt their policies to cope with this.

      And even if not all publishers agreed to do this, if EA suddenly decided that they would, can you imagine any retailer saying “OK, we’re not going to stock EA games any more”?

      The whole idea that retailers are holding publishers to ransom is silly, it’s the other way around. Publishers will always find someone to sell their games, but retailers need to be on the good side of the publishers else they’ll have nothing to sell (speaking of purely games stores, of course).

  65. Gunstar Zero says:

    no problems using steam and vpn here to get stuff on US release dates using vypervpn:

    https://www.goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn/secure-private-vpn

  66. Outsider says:

    Signed. I’m in the U.S., and I feel for you guys.

  67. lethu says:

    If this means Europe sticks to Africa, I am in…. Hell count me in even twice!

  68. SuperNashwan says:

    I wholeheartedly endorse rubbing the industry’s nose in its mess until it learns better on this. Remember this is an industry that’s only just figured out in the last year or so that releasing every AAA game in the same two month period with loads of competition from every other publisher’s lead title is a bad idea.

  69. Kefren says:

    And my bow!

  70. Lambchops says:

    I don’t tend to buy games at launch, but I agree, they should be released concurrently. Best of luck with that, after all you made us a promise Mr Walker and we’re not oging to let you forget it!

  71. 12kill4 says:

    Holy critique of political economy Batman!

  72. D3xter says:

    Wouldn’t this be like logically moar better for them? Preventing Day1 Piracy and all that?

    Gah, maybe I should finish reading next time :P

  73. Aurensar says:

    I’m not sure if anyone’s mentioned this yet, but there were two pretty big launches last year that did have worldwide (or at least, loads more countries than usual all at once) release dates.

    Even more oddly, they both came from a little-known company called Blizzard. Starcraft II released on Tuesday, 27th July and WoW: Cataclysm on Tuesday, 7th December.

    Why are Blizzard allowed to release games on Tuesday (in the UK) including retail and digital? Is it something to do with being PC exclusives?

    Come on publishers. Blizzard have lots of money, so they’re clearly doing it right. If they’re using a loophole, find it and copy it, and then you also will have lots of money.

    • Optimaximal says:

      I think the fact that Activision Blizzard *have* more money than the rest of the world combined means they can dictate release dates.

      Also, it would be mad for the brick & mortar outlets to fight said release dates, especially if one of their competitors broke said date and stole all their sales.

    • drewski says:

      Blizzard (and Activision in general) have the most power to dictate terms to retailers for their biggest releases, I imagine.

      “Want SC2 and Wow:C? Sell it on Tuesday or don’t sell it at all. YOUR MOVE.”

    • Milky1985 says:

      In your hated console world Final Fantasy 13 also had a 99% global launch (i think it was out in japan before, but US/UK /EU etc all came out at the same time). If a game that has lots of text and voiceovers can do it theres no reason something like crysis 2 can’t.

    • Ovno says:

      Or…

      EA have the most power to dictate terms to retailers for their biggest releases, I imagine.

      “Want CODBLOPS? Sell it on Tuesday or don’t sell it at all. YOUR MOVE.”

  74. Rikard Peterson says:

    It’d be interesting to hear the reason for not releasing globally at once. I don’t understand why, but I assume there is a reason… or?

    Oh, and do you have a higher resolution of that map?

  75. MiniMatt says:

    The lunacy really shows up on unlock dates for preloaded games. Pre-load on a laptop outside the USA, then *fly* to the USA on Tuesday, unlock, and fly back to blighty. This, apparently, is all fine and dandy. *Sorta* fly to the USA, by well, popping out of a stars & stripes coloured VPN tunnel may or may not be fine and dandy but no-one seems too fussed.

    It’s bonkers, the entire world has the game preloaded, and when it magically starts working depends entirely on a geo-IP lookup of where your ISP or tunnel happens to pop out. If I were to install on a works PC, and all my works internet traffic gets routed through to a breakout point in the USA then my games would work on Tuesday – would I be breaking the law? the rules? Should I abstain from playing my unlocked games till Friday? (“should I be installing games on works PCs” is perhaps a seperate issue)

  76. brog says:

    I really don’t care about release dates. Regional pricing, on the other hand..

  77. Optimaximal says:

    You have the signature of Grand Air Marshal Andrew Bryant on your petition…

    Unfortunately, the lame software means I am officially represented as ‘Grand Andrew Bryant’…

    That is all.

  78. Cynic says:

    I say, there are TWO Sussexes, you know. I’m from one and live in the other.

  79. Optimaximal says:

    Funny Story -

    LEGO Star Wars III: The Clone Wars is now ready for purchase! For @Steam_Games: http://bit.ly/hwvvt8 , or @direct2drive http://bit.ly/hdwmXf

    Source – @lucasartsgames

  80. JFS says:

    It’s a German map up there at the top of the article, which goes to prove that at least RPS has no oceans. Let’s head on further!

  81. Zwebbie says:

    Yes, publishers and developers, you can try to take away consumer rights like reselling, and we’ve let you, but deciding when you are going to release your game, that’s just going too far.

    /sarcasm.

    C’mon, John, can you really see so few injustices that you have to fight inconveniences?

    • Thants says:

      No one really seems to mind that you suddenly can’t sell or give away a game you’ve bought on a digital service or that you don’t really own the games, steam can just take them away any time they want. Which is a shame.

    • Malibu Stacey says:

      No one seems to mind that the same game is sold on the same digital store in some countries for 1.5 – 2 times what it sells in others (if it’s being sold at all in some countries). You’re downloading the same bits & bytes as everyone else yet it’s automagically twice as expensive if you happen to live somewhere the publishers think should be charged a stupid amount. Sure there’s ways to circumvent the system like having a friend gift the game through Steam & then reimbursing them through paypal but the very fact that people are trying to circumvent this stupid system should point out how ludicrous it is in the first place.

      But yeah having to wait a few days deserves some rage right? I guess if games journalists had to pay for games there might be more outrage (review scores would probably take a drop too but that’s a whole other discussion).

  82. Megadyptes says:

    I just can’t sign enough internet petitions!

  83. Stevostin says:

    The main, true reason about fighting the delayed release is because it’s so embarrassingly stupid. It’s the kind of idea that exist in the sale department. The sale department is usually where all the retarded who are not good at anything but fighting over decimal on all sort of prices go. Letting those guys decide about important thing about the real deal that are game is like letting the house mate decide how you should arrange your furniture. It’s complete non-sense.

  84. Sarlix says:

    Signed and signed. And I mean signed.

  85. Grayvern says:

    For the glory of Amn

  86. Nihilille says:

    It’s not like the physical copies aren’t there either. I always preorder physical copies (name ps3 titles, everything pc goes via steam) from the same website. If a game is released on friday, I’ll get an email on wednesday saying it’s been despatched and it’ll always arrive on thursday (not sure if they are allowed to do this but I guess there’s some clause saying preorders are allowed to be sent with an error margin on delivery time).

    Rabble rabble.

  87. wcaypahwat says:

    Apparently Australia doesn’t get LEGO starwars for PC at all :(

    http://www.ebgames.com.au/sale-product-1120-home-Lego-Star-Wars-III-The-Clone-Wars

  88. sassy says:

    A worthy fight but I would want one world pricing before a one world release date … then again I am patient but love my wallet!

    • JFS says:

      Yes, that would be beautiful. Seeing how the US pay 9.99 $ for a nice indie Steam game whereas we old-worlders pay 9.99 € is just disgusting. Especially in the case of digitally distributed games, which are not even localized or anything. I just calculated it, as of today that is three stolen eurocoins for us in the above case. That is one sixpack of lovely German beer! A WHOLE sixpack!

      RPS, I demand you do initiate another campaign. If you are successful, I will from then on transfer the saved money to you (in the form of beer).

    • MiniMatt says:

      Much as I’d like one world pricing too, that’s *to some degree but by no means all* outside of games publishers hands until we get a one world economy too, with identical tax structures and cost of living across the globe. I’d quite like one world pricing on petrol too. And houses.

      But yeah, they’re definitely guilty of some hefty rounding up, aka 10 dollars / 10 pounds / 10 euros.

  89. NegativeZero says:

    While we’re at it, how about getting rid of this whole antiquated regional lockout thing? Australia isn’t part of Europe and it makes no sense for us to be, except that in the dim, dark past our consoles were hooked up to the same PAL TV standard. And I’m not just talking about regional lockouts on the software itself – it’s incredibly annoying to be prevented from accessing content through digital distribution because of where I live. The internet has no oceans and no borders.

    At least Atari don’t seem to be publishing stuff any more. Whenever they handled a PAL release of a game, they’d quote the UK release date as the Australian one. But that would be the date that they put it into a boat in Europe somewhere to actually ship it here, and it wouldn’t arrive in AU stores for three or four weeks after that. Used to piss off the retailers I would preorder through to no end.

  90. Inpropagation says:

    Signed!

    The only thing I hate more is regional DD pricing!

    It’s the same data, it’s the same delivery, so why the fuck is DOW2 Retribution’s price doubled because I have an Australian I.P? an extra $10 for Crysis 2? an extra $40 for Shogun 2?

    And nobody give me any crap about brick and mortar retailers, PC games presence at retail in this country is laughable, and practically non-existent.

  91. Namos says:

    *cue dramatic music*

    Signed!

    Let loose the dogs of “making sense”.

  92. limbclock says:

    I would sign this petition as well…

    If it wasn’t meant for people living in the UK Only.

    Then again, i guess that Finnish people who’ll order games from Amazon shall also get them sooner, as they’ll arrive there faster. Unless then amazon’s all like “you can’t order this yet, you live in Finland!”

  93. JayG says:

    I signed it, just use the not UK tab. I also tend to get most my games from Amazon, and can take a while to arrive because of customs.

  94. Mister_Inveigler says:

    You get my vote, that’s for certain.

    What about exclusive region content? Or region coding? Not only in the games themselves but for the DLC of the game.
    I can write pages on this subject, so I’d best stop here…

  95. thebigJ_A says:

    Hey, here in Boston we don’t drawl our vowels! Luckily, we also gave up on the letter “R” after the vowels A,O, I,and E, too. We still use it in words like “turn”, ‘cuz that’s how people are supposed to talk. And we put it back where it’s supposed to go, which is at the beginning of words that start with vowels if they come after a word ending in a vowel sound (“soda is wicked good” is “sodeh-ris wicked good”). Your welcome.

    Please don’t lump us Bostonian Americans in with those midwesterners, or *shudder* southerners! (Pronounced “suthinuhs”, just like it says in the dictionary!)

  96. Jade Raven says:

    No-one should be allowed to sell games but GOG. One world-wide release date, one world-wide price, a true wonder of the modern world that site is.

  97. Daz says:

    As I sit here itching to play Crysis 2 I wholly agree with this and wish you the best of luck, if you do manage to pull it off then you will have my eternal gratitude :)

  98. Milky1985 says:

    There is a easy but slightly underhanded way of doing this, which is based on what i predict will happen soon enough anyway.

    Basically game reviews come out when the US game comes out, if the game is bad but has been built up on hype at this point, but its actually terrible all the US people have the game but the UK peeps now know its bad. They are now busy cancelling pre-orders and deceding not to buy it, this directly affects the sales of the games in other areas and makes publisher bosses annoyed.

    Sooner or later they will relaises that if they merge the release dates this cannot happen so we will get games at the same time, but may not have the awful game warning!

    The underhanded way is basically to speed it up by marking everything 2 points lower than they think for a couple of months, huitting there metacritic!! Force the hands of the publishers (and it might also stop the stupid fact that games sites can’t be honest with publishers for fear of not getting games to review)

    But it will happen soon enough even without the underhandedness, simple because publishers love money and there current ideas are costing them money.

  99. BigRedS says:

    Surely it makes *more* sense to stagger the release days now that everybody’s downloading the game rather than buying from a real-life shop? Way better to spread the load over a few days than need to concoct some world-serving cluster for a day every so often.

    But, then again, I’m still discovering games released in 2004. I’m used to waiting…

    • Schadenfreude says:

      They already spread the load over a few days by letting you pre-load the game. And the whole world gets to pre-load at the same time; it’s just the final few bytes of unlock data that you have to wait for.

      It really is remarkably silly.

    • Milky1985 says:

      “They already spread the load over a few days by letting you pre-load the game.”

      Unfortantly this isn’t true a lot of the time, Bulletstorm was the most recent one that didn’t do this (unless you used a trick to install it). For some reason its a bit slapdash with what you can and can’t pre-load. No idea why :/

  100. cmi says:

    Tbh delayed releases aren’t that bad. Saved me from my DA2 preorder for example. With todays practice of “don’t publish reviews before release” (or if you do, make sure its 95%+) Otherwise, I would have got some “turned out it wasn’t that good” (preordered) games. On the other hand, I got some preorder bonuses for some “turned out it was quite good”-games.

    So: it might suck others can play the game, but I’m not really the “omgomgomg I have to play this NOW”-kind of gamer.

  101. evik says:

    There are spikes in software downloads on release days. By segmenting the market the delivery system does not need to be scaled to a demand that it encounters only a few times during a year. It would not be that great to have a so highly popular and demanded game launch on the same day worldwide and let everyone download with 128-256kbit/s speeds.

  102. Dworgi says:

    YES.

    That is all.

  103. Frosty840 says:

    Just been rewatching Cold Lazarus, actually. Fantastic stuff. Just thought I’d mention the prequel/other: Karaoke. Also excellent.

    • Milky1985 says:

      Might not have been the best idea posting on slashdot, its primarily a american following who judging by the comments are already going “omg its only 3 days who cares” (althougha few admit when its the other way round they scream and shout a lot louder than we do).

      I expect the petition (when its working again) to be full of “ivor biggon” posting there name with a comment of “sucks to be you” now its been mention on that site!

      (I don’t have the best opinion of the slashdot readership :P )

    • Malibu Stacey says:

      I live in the UK & my response to this is also “omg its only 3 days who cares”. However I haven’t bought a game on release day or pre-ordered since L4D (the first one) & that was from Amazon since it was cheaper than Steam.
      I don’t have this burning desire to speed-run through games in the first week they’re released just so I can wave my e-peen around & tell everyone how shit the game is like the majority of people appear to do. I’m quite happy to wait for a sale to come along so I can add games to my catalogue & play them when I get around to it at a leisurely pace (probably due to playing games on hard or at least higher than “normal” difficulty rather than “make it as easy to get to the end as possible” mode).

  104. Dhatz says:

    its ridiculous not to pirate in this age, howgh

  105. Lugg says:

    I hereby vociferously demand that this glorious world map be made clickable for adequate fullsizeness! Such that for purposes of spamming the internets with this glorious oceanless world map may we increase the inertia of our campaign!

    Do it!

  106. Milky1985 says:

    The petetion seems to be down, did we crash the server :p

  107. FunkyJ says:

    Being an Australian, I can really get behind this initiative.

    I hope your push gets the wheels it deserves, and even expands to other industries.

    However, using the primary counter-argument to delayed releases of that people pirate because of a week long delay simply shows gamers to be nothing more than spoilt, immature brats, and is the wrong way to campaign.

    If you’re serious about this, then you really need to be more sensible about how you approach it.

    You need to focus on the reasons why this will be beneficial and profitable to games companies, because in the end, it’s a money thing, and you need to show games companies and retailers how they will benefit from worldwide release, not how they’ll be “punished”.

  108. Chufty says:

    You folks should get a facebook group and other momentum-building social network type things going

  109. Dustybaboon says:

    I fully endorse this product or service.

  110. Lumi says:

    Signed, been always wondering why game companies and retailers insist on different release dates.

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