Ubi’s latest trailer for their Far Cry 2 multiplayer map editor shows off some of the more radical possibilities for map creation that the tool offers: with big crazy maps with Eiffel Towers, Pyramids and vast rope-bridge mountain-islands. “Crazy” they’re calling it. Better still, however, is how the headshots and explosions of the trailer are timed to coincide with the “Uhh!” of the human beatbox soundtrack. There’s something wrong about that particular juxtaposition. Or maybe that’s just me.
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What Alex said. :) I think it’s popular now to jump on an issue and demonise anyone who doesn’t. I can think of several that fall into this category, and to be honest, I really just don’t want to hear any more about DRM. I play games. I don’t play DRM. That’s why I come to various games sites, not hover around the SecuROM and Starforce forums all day. ;)
If everyone here knows that Far Cry 2 will ship with Securom, why are they complaining that you’re not bringing attention to it? Just seems like people want an excuse to complain and are angry you didn’t give them that excuse so are complaining about the lack of complaining. Flawless logic.
On the subject of the video, it reminded me of the Morrowind map editor which, along with the plethora of mods, kept me playing the game past the main story arc.
Noc wins!
Oh, and that trailer made me actually, for the first time, give the game any consideration whatsoever. A level editor like that (provided it also has a decent system for importing custom content, and a scripting system) looks to be exactly what I’ve been waiting for. (And why everytime Source engine is praised, I grow a little greyer…)
Now, once the blasted thing is actually available, and I read some reviews, if I decide that yes, I would like to give them my monies, will I decide if any accompanying DRM hassle is going to outweigh my desire. (Or, should I buy it, and then DL the cracked version…)
I think you guys are missing the real flamebait here. F!#* the DRMs, I hate Pachelbell’s Cannon! I mean, It’s all pretty and everything and then all the sudden you’re a twelve-year old cellist who has to play the same damn thing over for 128 measures everytime someone gets married. This unusual musical form is known as a ground bass or passacaglia, and considering that the violins are not what kicks off the piece, and even if they were they’re not in perfect imitation, the bastard has obviously named his piece somthing it isn’t. It would be like calling the House of Commons the Ministry of Higer Education, which would be witty and ironic, but totally misleading. I must say I totally approve of the re-mix however. I mean, Pachelbell really only had to write one line of music, analyze one other line of counterpoint, and viola! an enduring classic. This is really nothing more than 18th century techno. And this is not to say that all passacaglias are bad. Purcel wrote one that just plain rocks in the middle of “Dido and Aneas”, but only has 11 repetitions, and there is some variation. Same with Bach. But in general, they were the Baroque way of letting your audience know you were Broke for ideas.
Now hopefully that should make the previous hiijacked thread seem a little less petty and irrelevant. The Level Editor looks cool.
“Since the entirety of your readers hate DRM”
I like how Meat Circus made up a fact to back up his point.
I dislike DRM but I don’t HATE it purely because it’s never stopped me playing anything or caused me any serious inconvenience whatsoever.
Noc:
I asked in an e-mail, not here you pleb.
I have a right to be annoyed, just as they have a right not to care.
I know the stamp thing was a joke, but I still think it would be an improvement over saying nothing.
I don’t look up every game to see if it has intrusive DRM. I bought Clear Sky’s and only after found out it had activation and stuff.
Look Far Cry 2 absolutely does deserve coverage, it looks stunning, I just think that continuing the hype for the game, working gamers into a further frenzy without even mentioning the DRM that it uses is a little irresponsible. It is personal opinion, not some kind of fact. It’s how I feel.
Pags: some people didn’t know.
@Noc
“Also: Not talking about DRM ≠ advocating DRM.
Not talking about DRM = Not talking about DRM.
Saying “This game looks pretty interesting” does NOT involve saying “This game is pretty good and you should buy it regardless of whether it has DRM or not.”
I mean, look at half of the comments in this thread: they say “Yes this game looks really interesting but I don’t know if I’m going to buy it because of the DRM.” Because these are separate issues! DRM is an issue of distribution; “Does this game have DRM?” falls under the same category as questions like “How much does it cost?” and “Is it available on Steam?” and “Is it available in my region?” Gameplay videos are an issue of the game itself, with questions like “Is it fun?” “Is it pretty?” and “Does it have multiplayer?”
@Noc
If you buy the game legally you must use any form of DRM thats included in the game. Thus it is a perfectly reasonable concern for anyone considering buying the game.
If they don’t want their game limited and/or malware installed on their system or even just totally refuse to buy DRM covered software, then its a just concern.
RPS do not have any obligation to mention a DRM they know is in a game but they don’t have an obligation to mention glitchy graphics, bugs or bad gameplay within a game either – its just nice for these possible issues to be commented on by a Games Reviewer.
cHeal/Meat Circus maybe worded their post wrongly – stating it is RPS’ duty to mention DRM thats included, as they owe us no “duty” as such, but their point remains that it is nice for a games reviewer to give their readers a heads up on any concerns there is to be had with any games.
Also your sarcasm and condecention doesn’t make your argument any more solid.
As a footnote I’d like to mention I love RPS <3.
Dammit, too many @Noc’s in my last post, is the edit function feeling any better yet?
You know us internet folk can’t speel too save ar lyfe!
Oh, and Noc, regarding the whole DRM is like asking “how much does it cost” etc. That depends really.
If you know from day 1 it includes DRM, then its totally different from cost/availability as they are usually unknown until very close to release date.
(Sorry for the spam)
I think this trailer is brilliant, I’m buying the game and to be perfectly honest I couldn’t care if I ever read another word about DRM on a games site for the rest of eternity.
The reason people (or at least people like me, which may just be me ;) ) are frustrated is that game reviewers seem bound and determined to never mention DRM in a review. Alas, this apparently includes even more “progressive”, enlightened reviewers like the chaps here. I’d understand this if the DRM in question were totally invisible, as it is with console games, but a 3-computer limit is actually a big deal because it abrogates your right (Constitutionally-derived for those of us State-side) to resell the game on the used market. Personally, I think it’s actually news that game publishers, rather than attacking our legal rights in U.S. court where they’d (probably) lose and where case law already leans against them, are seeking to destroy the used market through the backdoor use of DRM.
That said, Far Cry 2’s DRM will be fine with me as long as the revoke system works properly, because I seriously doubt I’ll be reselling it. I’ve already pre-ordered the game, and this trailer has my mapmaker friends pretty stoked.
Pre ordered… for almost half the price of your average game in Australia. From CD-Wow.
Awesome.
$50 from CD Wow :o
Why are they so special? EB will certainly flog this for closer $100
I am one of the “silent majority” of gamers that has no problem with DRM. (With the exception of Starforce, which I THINK crippled a couple CD-writers of mine, but I can’t be sure that’s why they died.) I just got FC2 yesterday on Steam and it’s AWESOME.
@ suibhne:
You do not have a “constitutionally protected” right to sell PC games, because you do not own any PC games. Sorry, but that’s the truth. If you wanted to purchase the actual GAME, it would run you millions of dollars… just read any news article concerning when one software company buys a game from another company. What you are buying is a EULA, which is simply a contract allowing you to play the game under certain conditions. Those conditions are spelled out in the EULA itself. The actual game belongs to the developer, not you. And if you want to talk about law, the fact is that if you install the game, you “signed” a legally binding agreement to abide by the EULA. It is you who runs the risk of breaking the law when you try to resell a game that you never owned, rather than the developer (who DOES own the game) trying to keep you from reselling it. I know it’s weird, but that’s how it works. Now go play some FC2… it’s great fun! Especially having a keyboard command (h) for digging bullets out of your flesh with a pair of pliers… ROFL!!!
For those who are interested, I’ve made an MP3 of the full version of this song recorded from a YouTube video. Quality is good, as far as my ear can tell.
I couldn’t find any Artist or Title better than the video told us, so I’ve put those in the tags.
http://rapidshare.com/files/157826394/Korean_Canon_Remix.mp3
I messed up the formatting above, so try this.
I’m supposing DRM is the little activation keys you need to type? If so the people at Sierra are idiots. I bought Tribes: Vengance and downloaded it. Then it asked me for actuvation. . . It happened to be on these paper CD jackets that I threw out because I wanted my CDs to have real cases. :\ Anyways I agree with Noc. Besides rather than complaining about DRM or requesting that DRM is mentioned here why not earn some money buy a console and never need to bloody worry about it again?
Oh my God. I laughed when I saw this at the bottom of RPS’s page XD
Amount of comments not about piracy: 0.972%
Wow. XD Seriously though lightne up people. Like someone else said. It’s called google. You guys don’t own the site. If you think DRM should be mentioned and they don’t want to mention it. GO AWAY. For God’s bloody sake.
Futhermore you can pretty much expect every PC game to have DRM. Almost every PC game does these days. That is if I am correct in the whole activation key thing.
Oh I forgot. Reading all this DRM shit made me forget. I cannot stop watching that trailer!