Probe Bono Publico: South Park Censored, But Not On PC

By Nathan Grayson on February 26th, 2014 at 9:00 am.

Edit: According to Get Games, Ubisoft have comfirmed that the PC version will be censored in Germany, Austria, Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong & Taiwan. Elsewhere, it will be unaffected.

South Park is a series known for its ability to get away with quite a lot, but not everything. Add South Park: The Stick of Truth to the raucously raunchy series’ short list of consolations, as it’s had a few scenes nipped and tucked in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. You might feel inclined to curse up a storm, make a steaming pile of poop jokes, and then somehow come around to making a worthwhile point in response, but take a deep breath: the PC version is unaffected.

According to BT.com, censored scenes in the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions include:

  • A mini-game in which the doctor is performing an abortion on the player.
  • A mini-game in which the player is performing an abortion on the character Randy.
  • Five anal probing scenes involving someone actively being probed. The scenes play out as normal before and after the active probing sequences.

Ubisoft is calling it “a market decision,” which probably means Germany. It often means Germany. The game’s got a PEGI-18 rating elsewhere, but Germany plays by its own set of rules.

Apparently, however, PC is safe and sound from the long, tastefully mosaic-ed arm of the law. So that’s good news, although Trey Parker and Matt Stone got to replace the console versions’ censored imagery with their own descriptions and choice of related or unrelated imagery. Constraints sometimes breed creativity, and apparently that’s resulted in crying koalas for the similarly censored Australian version.

Not really much else to say given that I’ve yet to play the game. South Park isn’t exactly known for restraint, though, so I’m sure we’re in for at least one or two scenes of rampant grotesquery. Maybe it’ll be pointlessly putrid (definitely wouldn’t be the first time for South Park), or maybe there’ll be something to it. It’ll be out next week, so we shall see very, very soon. For now, though, you can watch the game’s slow yet silly intro section here.

Thanks to StranaMente for the Get Games update.

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  1. Morlock says:

    Not sure how serious you were when you mentioned Germany, but my feeling looking at the list of cur content is that it wasn’t us this time. Germany used to be pretty strict when it came to manshooting (green blood, robots, and I think it is still common for ragdoll physics to be removed), but I cannot remember any orifice-related scandals. For instance, when it comes to sex, the German media is much more liberal than the US media.

    • stahlwerk says:

      I don’t see these as particularly teutonic red flags either, the described actions read USK 16 at the most, considering that it’s cartoon characters performing / receiving the deeds and that the TV show is pretty much localized 1:1.

    • Ocki says:

      Germany even gets a “special” version without swastikas. Why would they censor every version in Europe when they release a german version anyway?

    • FurryLippedSquid says:

      The Saints Row IV probe?

    • FFabian says:

      It looks more likely that the UK is the problem … with all the internet censoring (OMG sex is bad) going on over there …

      • Bull0 says:

        We don’t have any kind of established track record of refusing classification until cuts are made to video games, with a couple of exceptions which were rooted in those games’ extreme violence. The “censorship” you’re talking about is simply legislation forcing ISPs to offer website blocking services for porn etc, which isn’t exactly related.

        • FFabian says:

          It’s related because it shows the the public/politics in the UK is sensitive to sexual content. All the stuff cut has a connection to sex.

          BTW the censoring done by the ISP but is mandated by politics. Or do you only call it censoring if done in Germany (’cause of german nazi stereotypes)?

          • Bull0 says:

            I didn’t realise abortions and anal probing were sex. And I didn’t mention any “nazi stereotypes”. It just feels like you’re slinging mud for the sake of it, really.

          • FFabian says:

            You know what an abortion is and how babies are made?

          • theblazeuk says:

            Right. But none of the censorship in the UK takes place at a product level but at the more insiduous blanket level of the ISP.

          • Dugular says:

            I’ve lived in South Africa, the states and the UK.

            And the states was the only country that was sensitive to sexual content in fictional material. The UK has been the most liberal in that regard

            The keyword being fiction. I was amazed at the violence that got through state media but sexual stuff being hidden. Take Fahrenheit. UK version had playable sex scene whereas the states didn’t. Take San Andreas. Hot Coffee mod was basically ignored in the UK but was a massive scandal in the states.

            Plus there’s a lot more anti-abortion sentiment in the states.

            Basically, I’m saying from experience that I completely disagree with you.

          • joa says:

            Anal probing and abortion may be sexual but it is not so sexy. Moral panic in the UK is more about the sexy. Moral panic in the US seems to be more about the sexual.

          • Werthead says:

            “It’s related because it shows the the public/politics in the UK is sensitive to sexual content.”

            Except we’re not, at least outside of a couple of tabloid newspapers who are paranoid about it. HBO shows air uncut on British TV (sometimes only just past the watershed), there are medical programmes that air before the watershed that show full nudity (male and female) and few nations enjoy throwing swearing into their programmes more than we do. I can’t even remember the last time a game was censored for release here due to content (the CARMAGEDDON blood controversy sixteen years ago?).

          • FFabian says:

            What made me write this post was the double standard on display here. Content is cut for a german product and the anglo-american readership goes all “Ha – look at those Germans showing their secret-nazi-selfs by censoring” and when the UK or the US does it it’s all “It’s not so bad, it’s just an exception, you know. We don’t do censoring.”

          • pullthewires says:

            German censorship seems to be much more standardised – that is, there’s a clearly defined line and it won’t allow exceptions. In the UK, our general approach is theoretically more liberal, but much more prone to being caught up in silly moral panics, which makes it harder to really define where the line is. I think I prefer the German way.

          • Bull0 says:

            Yes, thanks, I know all about the birds and the bees, clever dick. And you wrote this post because you were angry that Germany was (perhaps unfairly) accused of being responsible – because, you know, normally when games are censored it’s to appease Germany, and it’s been that way for decades – and thought you’d slag off the english for your perception that they are prudish by way of revenge.

            I like how I got to use the word “appease” there.

          • FFabian says:

            Nope I tried to show that there are examples of censoring of sexual content happening in other countries and not just in games. There are enough examples mentioned here in the comments (Saint Row IV – Australia, Fallout I+II – UK, GTA – US etc.). So it seems that SEXUAL related content is regularly (“in the last decades”) censored in anglo-american countries. So when sex related content in the South Park game gets censored the first suspect is … Germany? Why?

          • hotmaildidntwork says:

            Well it could be because Germany has a much more pronounced and recent history of publicized censorship targetted at specific products and people including the author are floating ideas of who the prime culprit might be in absence of any real data.

            But hey, if you feel better assuming that it’s because everyone still secretly believes that the German government are Secret Nazis then rock on.

            Seriously, were the Nazis even known for censorship? I mean I’m sure that they’d do it but when I think about them the first things that usually come to mind are hidden mass murder camps and well designed tanks.

          • Asdfreak says:

            While the Nazis DID censor everything(, but not by cutting out, but rather by burning everything undesirable and taking controll over any kind of media), it is a completly different thing today. Because we were rouled by two dictatorships in a row(nazis everywhere, kommunists in the east) that glorified killing innocent people for the fatherland, the public, and especially those overpiously political-correct youth protectiong programs, are very sensitive to displaying muder and slaughter as harmless or even fun and desirable. Also any material that is directly aimed against the constitution, especially the human rights that it garantees and democracy, is censored, to prevent the spread of nazi propaganda. That means glorifying naziism or making it seam harmless is a crime and the swastika is banned.
            However, germany is most certainly a lot more liberal when it comes to sexual acts and such things, and abortion are not that big of a deal, as in america. Also Youthprotection has recently been unbanning a lot of stuff because they admitted it was not that bad at all, so sexually explicit songs like “Klaudia hat nen Schäferhund…/Klaudia has a shepard dog…” and “Geschwisterliebe/Siblings love” have been taken from the index.
            I would certainly point a finger somewhere else, especially australia. The USK has become increasingly less annoying when it comes to censoring violence, no green blood or robots anymore, and they are, no doubt, censoring unnecessary amounts of violence still, but quite certainly not responsible for this one.
            I think the reason why they included Germany here is probably that they just put Germany on a “censor everything”-list with other countries so they don’t have extra work and can just make one version instead of 16 or whatever for everyone of them.

      • Becalel says:

        The issue of web porn filters in Britain are a completely different kettle of fish. Like Bull0 says, it’s about web filtering and it just so happens, that to be able to sell it to the public opinion our Conservative overlords decided to ring the ‘think about the children!’ bell. But it is, what it is. It’s about web filtering. Now the mechanisms are in place, the subject is irrelevant. Porn today, political critique tomorrow, who knows. Some of the people who came up with this bill probably wouldn’t know a video game even if it kicked their butler’s ass.

        As to the:
        It’s related because it shows the the public/politics in the UK is sensitive to sexual content.

        Only the Party members are. The proles are just fine.

        • FFabian says:

          Please explain why “web filtering” is not censorship. China also “filters” the web but in addition to porn also political content. Isn’t it censorship because it’s “just” porn (for now) or because it’s done in the UK?

          • jarowdowsky says:

            Because you can just ask to turn it off? Usually that’s the distinction from countries like China where the filter can’t be easily removed.

          • Llewyn says:

            Not only can you turn it off, if you’re an existing customer with several (all?) of the ISPs implementing filters you have to actively request it to be turned on. It also only applies to the largest ISPs – ie those with a cost base low enough to be able to implement it – so it can easily be avoided entirely.

            It’s stupid political nannying but it’s not censorship in any meaningful sense. Yet.

          • aldo_14 says:

            Because you can just ask to turn it off? Usually that’s the distinction from countries like China where the filter can’t be easily removed.

            It’s a bit more insidious, although I’m not arguing China is not worse (at present). Although I’d note China tends to claim the ‘great firewall’ is concerned with restricting pornography, too. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Camerons own version is being implemented by the same company – which does mean a Chinese company with strong PLA ties (the owner is an ex-major) will be assuming responsibility for monitoring UK web traffic.

            The web filter potentially includes blocking of things like (literally) ‘esoteric’ websites, as well as anything deemed sufficiently ‘terrorist’ (something that’s proven itself to be a malleable definition in the past). The actual list of what is being blocked isn’t published, though, so you can’t tell how far the government is extending filtering on this basis.

            Here comes the cunning part. Porn still carries a degree of social stigma. This filter is inherently associated with porn. Ergo, opting out can be seen as implicitly viewed as purely down to wanting to see porn. For us, that’s probably not an issue. For others, it may be. There’s also an association being made (or trying to be made), that this filter is for moral protection of children. Again, that introduces an implicit association (if weaker than the above) that people wanting to opt out can be seen as in some way immoral.

            The final thing is that opt-out systems are a lot easier to make entirely mandatory. All it needs is sufficient traction – for enough people not to care – and it will be normalized. We do after all have a degree of mandatory filtering anyway, in the sense that access to torrent sites is entirely restricted (and I’m pretty sure there’s no opt-out for that).

            It’s one of those classic things like ID cards. It’s not initially threatening, but it also represents a tool for any future oppressive government. And the minute you being assuming your democracy can never become a victim to that, is the minute you start enabling the conditions for it to arise.

          • ecat says:

            “web filtering” is censorship, though as several post point out the filter is optional.

            Except, ‘the filter’ is an incorrect description and should be ‘this filter’. Why?

            There are two known web filters in use in the UK, the commonly known opt in/out porn filter most discuss here and the less well known (?) UK blacklist which is managed by the Internet Watch Foundation. This IWF list is implemented by mostly all ISPs and to my knowledge there is no ‘opt-out’ procedure, this is the list which in 2008 caused the UK wide blocking of Wikipedia – allegedly because of some random British suburbanite’s dislike of classic German heavy metal music.

            So, yes. UK internet is censored. Games and movies and literature however have been mostly free from censorship for a good few decades.

      • Stormworm says:

        I just find it ironic how Britain’s biggest wanker is the one who proposed the filter.

    • Great Cthulhu says:

      Over here in The Netherlands the UK is more often the problem than Germany, since we often get the former’s version. I’m still pissed about Fallout 1 & 2. :-(

      • JamesTheNumberless says:

        The fallout 2 I played in the UK, shortly after it came out, was full of drugs, graphic violence, and had a bit where you could become a porn star… You’re telling me this was a censored version?

      • pullthewires says:

        The UK version was censored because of the German requirement to disallow the killing of children, as was every other European version, and that was implemented awfully – just remove every child from the game, without trying to fix quests broken by it. So your example is exactly opposite to your argument…

        • Great Cthulhu says:

          Do you have a source for that? All I’ve ever heard was that is was due to UK censorship.

          • pullthewires says:

            I can’t source it, other than claims that the German version had additional censorship on top of no kids. I heard it on the long defunct BIS forums from one of the devs, although I may be misremembering.

          • JamesTheNumberless says:

            I seem to remember this now, can’t say it ever spoiled my enjoyment of the game though.

            It does seem much more likely to me that this was a reaction to German censorship. You could kill kids in several of the Ultima games which were not censored in the UK. Meanwhile it was very difficult to get a violent game approved for the German market for a long time.

            When I used to help out at a youth club in the late 90s we had games consoles (I forget which ones) and there was a wrestling game we had that was apparently banned in Germany. We had some German kids visiting once and seeing violent games really upset some of them, one 16 year old girl was in tears.

          • Great Cthulhu says:

            Well, since I can’t seem to find any sources for the UK definitively being responsible, I’ll concede that it may well be due to German rather than UK censorship.

            I do find it odd for German censorship to turn up in a non-German language version of the game. Though I suppose that could be due to the publisher/developer lumping all of Europe together. It’s not like that’s never happened before… :-/

      • Maxheadroom says:

        Ah yes. I remember 1 sidequest about an orphanage where the owner trained the kids to be thieves and pickpockets, except in the censored UK version it was just 1 bloke stood in an empty house and items that magically disappeared from your inventory with no way or getting them back.

        • minstrelofmoria says:

          Unless you removed everything from your inventory except a lit stick of dynamite. Turns out invisible and untargetable is not the same as invulnerable, and it doesn’t even hurt your karma!

      • JamesTheNumberless says:

        Oh, and the Dutch really should be glad of British high standards when it comes to questionable material. It means you and your Belgian chums can continue to sell us dodgy porn by the boatload whilst continuing to steal BBC TV broadcasts without paying the license fee.

    • pongsifu says:

      Almost all media is more liberal in regards to sex compared to US media. But Germany still censors games and in this game they will be removing swastikas (which is always the case in German games).

      Edit: Looks like I replied to the wrong comment.

      • Juan Carlo says:

        America has the first amendment, though, which has been traditionally interpreted by the courts pretty liberally. So organizations like the MPAA, which rates movies, might be more prudish when it comes to sex, but ultimately their ratings are entirely self-policed by the movie industry and have no force of law behind them. Which isn’t true for censorship in England and most European countries, where ratings are government enforced.

        So Americans might be more prudish on the surface, but it’s nearly impossible to censor stuff completely here. There’s a whole ton of movies that are legally sold in America that are banned or censored by force of law in England and other countries (although, the UK has gotten more lax in the last 10 years when it comes to this). Which isn’t to say that there aren’t a whole bunch of Americans who would love to ban them as well, but like I said we have the first ammendment protecting us from those sorts.

  2. PsychoWedge says:

    I don’t understand these cuts for Europe and/or especially Germany. Here abortion is like a thing that can be done with all the ethical ramifications it includes but it still is just a medical procedure. It’s not like the US where abortion seems to be at the same level as evolution and homosexuality in whatever shape or from that make half the population lose their minds whenever they’re mentioned. Shouldn’t a market decision rather deal with the US?

    Btw, here in Germany there were discussion and worries that they would censor the game with all the jew jokes. Especially the Jew class and all that. I don’t think anybody gives a fuck about abortions and anal probes here. It was such a serious concern, that Ubi$oft Germany made a statement and assured us that no jew censoring would take place. xD

    • Becalel says:

      I can definitely try to guess two European countries where abortion jokes would most likely be picked upon by games-are-evil media. Republic of Ireland and Poland.

      • GallonOfAlan says:

        Hello from Ireland!

        Yes, it wouldn’t take much for our rent-a-quote politicians to sniff a bandwagon here.

        • Laurentius says:

          It has to be more then that. If it is connected with these two countries and it very well may be, then they are too small markets to really force that kind of actions cause by moral outrage of some politicians and if you are selling South Park you’d rather not shy from media controversy. Most probably console terms of service would allow some grounds for legal actions ( due to country legislature ) against Microsoft and Sony and that caused game being censored.

      • PsychoWedge says:

        sure, but media coverage is still not the same as tens of thousands of people marching through Dublin screaming their religious believes at the top of their lungs, blocking hospitals and beating up doctors. At least, as far as I my knowledge about Ireland and Poland goes. As a German I know what unpleasant Media coverage of games and politicians seeing a chance is as well, but all in all it is not the same as the religious fundamentalism (fundamentalism it is from a European viewpoint, I guess) in the USA.

        • Convolvulus says:

          You have a very inaccurate idea of American culture.

          • JamesTheNumberless says:

            Maybe but that’s exactly what America would be like if people behaved in public as they do on anonymous internet forums :)

          • hotmaildidntwork says:

            Name me one country in the world (with internet) that wouldn’t be a roiling crap pit if people acted in public like they do on anonymous internet forums? :P

          • Asdfreak says:

            You have a very inaccurate accurate idea of American culture.
            Fixed.

          • PsychoWedge says:

            I guess that would depend on where the culture is we’re talking about. The coastal cultures sure are not like that but down in the bible belt, I would say the US has some problems with religious… motivated… people.

          • Convolvulus says:

            Most Christians in the U.S. are lazy Protestants who go to church a few times each year, if at all, and either accept abortion in some sense or just try not to think about it. In this country where you imagine crusaders going apeshit at the drop of a hat, I see systemic apathy and avoidance strategies, as I’ve seen in every developed nation where people are generally warm and well-fed.

            Aggressive “Pro-Life” tactics have traditionally come from Catholicism, which is a minority denomination in America. Whenever I read about assholes yelling at women in front of abortion clinics, it’s almost always happening on the East Coast. [There's also the Westboro Baptist Church, but that's like fifty nutjobs who live in a little room and have no affiliation with anything.] That’s just a distraction, though. America’s religious difficulties don’t come from the Bible Belt or that crazy Australian who thinks the world was created last week; the problem was born in the late ’70s when the nuttiest Evangelical Protestants and angriest Roman Catholics joined forces to screw around in politics. [But you don't have to take my word for it.] When video games get censored it’s usually because of scheming assholes rather than screaming ones.

            In answer to your earlier point, I found some Dubliners and Berliners losing their minds, marching down the street, and pushing their beliefs on strangers.

          • JamesTheNumberless says:

            hotmaildidntwork – that was my point :)

            People on the internet judge Americans by how Americans on the internet behave.

      • sunrrrise says:

        I can definitely try to guess two European countries where abortion jokes would most likely be picked upon by games-are-evil media. Republic of Ireland and Poland.

        Hello from Poland! And, by the way, hello everybody cause it’s my first post on RPS.

        Back on topic: that’s true. But on the other hand I cannot remember one game which was the victim of the censorship.

        • JamesTheNumberless says:

          I don’t think anybody anywhere is entirely comfortable with abortion jokes, whatever they think about the moral aspect, it’s still a serious topic. Being universally legal and accepted does not make something trivial. This is why it works so well as a shock device when it’s treated as a triviality in black comedy.

        • HadToLogin says:

          Hey there! I remember one censorship of game in Poland: due to anti-gambling law at least one of Fifa games had to remove gambling-releated stuff from game (like names of companies on shirts).
          But no big Poland-releated censorship.

  3. Squirly says:

    Germany is so full of mee krob.

  4. golem09 says:

    Oh wow, this is unexpected. Especially since this is the first game(?) that forbids activation of steam keys from other regions, so I thought this was pretty much a forced censoring all the way. Nice suprise.

    Now if South Park didn’t suck after season 2, I’d even play the game.

    • Teovald says:

      wow, if you think South Park’s quality dropped after season 1, don’t even have a look at the most recent ones.

    • Abndn says:

      Hey now, that’s not fair. Some of the best episodes came a little later, like Scott Tenorman Must Die in Season 5.

      I guess we like different things though, since I didn’t actually enjoy Season 1 all that much. I thought the series came into its own a few seasons in, and got worse somewhere around 8 or 9.

  5. Disrespecting says:

    I can’t wait until angry parents buy a product they thought looked fun for their children, and are mortified when they find out what they actually gave them.

    Lets hope the box art is nice and clean and has no swearing on it.. Lol.

  6. 2helix4u says:

    I would like a swearing toggle where I could turn bleeps on. Most cartoon comedies I find the bleeps funnier than the swearing.

  7. Arithon says:

    “Oh my god! Those *bleep*s killed Kenny!”

  8. Meat Circus says:

    Console players are delicate little flowers and not very bright. We’re just protecting them from the harsh realities of existence, that their tiny little simian minds can’t handle.

    It’s an act of mercy.

    Love,

    The PC Master Race

  9. smidgeon says:

    Looking forward to this game

  10. Danda says:

    I’m waiting for official confirmation to be sure that the PC version is uncensored.

    Censored = no purchase.

  11. Bull0 says:

    Constraints sometimes breed creativity, and apparently that’s resulted in crying koalas for the similarly censored Australian version.

    Or if you’re Seth MacFarlane, six minutes of Conway fucking Twitty.

  12. TheCze says:

    This really does not seem like an issue with Germany (if it would be, why would the pc version not be affected by this decision). It sounds to me as if this comes personally from microsoft and sony because they don’t want their consoles affiliated with abortion to keep them “family friendly”, especially on the us market.

    • PsychoWedge says:

      That doesn’t make sense, since consoles are a lot bigger in the US than in Europe. If it was Sony and MS, they would surely enforce the cuts in North America too. And probably not even too, but first since that’s the hot market for these topics.

  13. ianos says:

    Oh come on – Eurogamer reported, yes, but they got it from BT (i.e. me). Here:

    http://home.bt.com/entertainment/games/gamesnewspreviews/south-park-game-censored-in-europe-11363879319989

    I don’t get much traffic to the site, it’d be nice for credit to point in the proper direction. Cheers.

    • Bull0 says:

      Oh dear. Everybody apologise to Ian.

      Sorry Ian.

      • ianos says:

        I accept your apology, so long as you send me a crisp fiver in the mail. Send it to:

        1 BT Tower,
        BT Road,
        BT,
        London (BT)
        BT1 1BT

        • jrodman says:

          As an uncultured American i am not aware of the concept of a fiver. Therefore I am taking a guess at your intent and sending you 1 pound of liver. (not mine). Enjoy!

          • Llewyn says:

            A Fiver is a very small and somewhat disquieting rabbit. Please remember to pack your rabbits carefully (and leave airholes in the packaging) before sending to Ian.

    • Lars Westergren says:

      Posts on r/games about this topic kept being removed, I thought it was because they weren’t the original source (i.e. you) but eventually the IGN version was allowed through for some reason. I would have a link posted your article, but the mods have removed me multiple times before for no apparent reason, so I’ve more or less given up. I can’t keep track of all the stuff the mods have deemed verboten.

    • Gap Gen says:

      Out of interest, can BT customers actually see that site, or is it blocked for containing references to obscenity?

      • ianos says:

        I’ve no idea, I work at the Press Association. I have about as much interaction with the broadband side of the business as the barista does with the coffee pickers.

  14. MajorManiac says:

    Seems ironic given the other meaning of the term ‘PC’.

  15. Skiv says:

    PC MASTER RACE HUHAAAH

  16. Maxheadroom says:

    Is it wrong that I have an urge to go over to IGN (or one of the other console kiddie sites) and poke the fan boys with some PC “superiority schtick” over this? :)

  17. Philopoemen says:

    I for one look forward to my crying koala.

    Yay Oz censorship.

  18. Viscera says:

    I highly doubt that it’s about Germany, since then the PC version would be censored too. Not to mention that it’s rare that all versions get censored, normally it’s just the German one. But really, who needs facts, when you can just make cheap pothshots?

    The censorship doesn’t even sound bad. If anything, it’s bad that the PC version retains these “things”. But then, it’s just an aspect of the real issue: This is going to be an authentic South Park game, with all that it entails.

    If nothing else, it sure feeds to the mind of people who proclaim themself to belong to a “master race” without any hint of irony. On that note, PC fanboys are just as bad as consoles fanboys. Seriously, there is no real difference there.

  19. StranaMente says:

    It seems that in reality the situation HAS changed, Get Games on their twitter reported that the pc version is censored in Germany, Austria, Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong & Taiwan.
    First tweet.
    Second tweet.

    • Bull0 says:

      Sort of pours cold water on FFabian’s dreck about it being because of David Cameron’s internet nanny filters.

      • FFabian says:

        Looks like your reading comprehension is lacking. The internet filters were one example of censoring of sex related content in the UK. It’s certainly no coincidence that Australia is on this list…

        • Bull0 says:

          Again with the childish insults. Ironically in this case I think it’s you that’s missed something in the reading:

          Germany, Austria, Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong & Taiwan.

          No UK, so whatever your “point” was about the UK being censor-mad and as likely to be at fault, it’s obviously false. There’s your evidence.

          • FFabian says:

            My point was not about the UK being censormad as I explained en detail above. So I missed nothing. We are apparently talking past each other.

            Why the internet censoring is a problem (even with the ability to turn it off) aldo_14 explained better than I possibly can.

            BTW calling my comment “dreck” is not insulting?

          • Bull0 says:

            Germany, Austria, Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong & Taiwan.

        • JamesTheNumberless says:

          Go back far enough and you can find silly examples of censorship of almost everything in almost every country in the world. Rape and sexualized violence are two two big no-nos that are still likely to fall foul of the censors in the UK – you have to be extremely sensitive with the context if you want to portray either. So typically when something is cut it was gratuitous and by definition not something that diminishes the movie or game or TV show by its omission. The BBFC is stricter with its age ratings for movies than the equivalent body in the US is, however in the UK there isn’t the same stigma around 18 rated films as there is around X and NC-17 in the US. Classification isn’t the same thing as censorship anyway.

        • Becalel says:

          The internet filters were one example of censoring of sex related content in the UK

          You are, really, overreacting a bit. The ‘porn web filters’ in the U.K. are a) implemented by the major ISPs (I believe smaller, local ones are not being bullied by anyone to have them in place) and b) as much as they are opt-in as default, they can be turned off by request. It is not that you are not permitted to see tits on the web. You just need to declare yourself as adult and interested in seeing them.

          If that’s your definition of the puritan censorship on everything that sexual, then I dare to call you an iPaded, Starbucks-sipping, sandaled vegan.

    • C2B says:

      It’s censored differently in all those countries. The german version for example has the swastika removed but everything else intact.

      So, yes. It got *censored*. It’s just not the same version of censored.

  20. obvioustroll says:

    I’ve always wanted to play a game where I can perform an abortion.

    No, wait. The opposite.

    I hope the game has tits.

  21. Trespasser in the Stereo Field says:

    Now children, censorship is bad, mmmmkay?

  22. Ridnarhtim says:

    I can’t say I’m particularly looking forward to performing abortions (whatever that means, in the case of male characters) or anal probing. But I’d still rather play the game uncensored, even if it leads to large amounts of disgust.

    • JamesTheNumberless says:

      I actually hope there’s an option to play the censored version. Crying koalas, and whatever else they decided to replace the scenes with, sound much more abstract and original than the replaced scenes themselves.

      • nimbulan says:

        I read that outside of the koala scene, the censored content will be replaced by written descriptions of the scenes so it’s probably not going to be very fun.

  23. Robbert says:

    Why is it censored in Austria? We never get any censored games. I was looking forward to this game, but when they announced the 40€ price I was thinking about maybe waiting for a sale and now I’m thinking about not getting it at all.
    Why would I ever want to buy a garbled version of the real game?

    • JamesTheNumberless says:

      Tell it to the kangaroos mate

      Seriously though, whenever I’m looking for local stuff online, it’s incredible how many searches for Austria bring up results about Australia. Yet I’ve never once searched for German stuff and found out about New Zealand instead.

      I can only conclude that something similar happened here when they were trying to find out what content was acceptable in Austria.

      • statistx says:

        This is possible too, but I highly believe they think we are somehow conntected to Germany, because they have stupid censorship laws.
        OR even more likely: They don’t think Austria deserves a different production version. For UK they can just use the american version, but since they have to censor it for Germany, they’d need to make a german uncensored version for Austria.

  24. Carlos Danger says:

    I can completely understand why today’s fascists wish to ban the symbols of previous fascists. I am a little confused why this is even considered news as it is completely expected.

  25. caff says:

    Hmm, so if I’ve pre-ordered this on one of those grey import CD key/steam key sites, it could be likely I’ll end up with a censored version?

  26. Reginald XVII Archduke of Butts says:

    Well, at least unlike Saints Row 4, their solution involves taking the piss out of the idiots at the OFLC (Unofficial Motto: New Technology Frightens And Confuses Us) instead of breaking the game.

  27. P.Funk says:

    “Constraints sometimes breed creativity….”

    Yes. I am most warmly reminded of the censored version of The Big Lebowski.

    “Do you see what happens Larry? Do you see what happens when you meet a stranger in the alps?!”

  28. statistx says:

    The fact that Austria is on that list, pisses me off to no end.
    Reason: We don’t have that bullshit censorship law that Germany has with games.
    In fact Germans import games that are forbidden there, from us since forever, but occasionally some companies don’t care to give us a different production or still think Austria is a district of Germany.
    It’s the same with Total War: Shogun 2; I can’t buy the blood DLC on Steam.
    Guess I’m not going to support this through channels that hinder me from playing the uncensored product.

  29. Gvaz says:

    Hopefully you can redeem the US version and run it in other countries. It is not up to lawmakers to decide what kind of content the public can consume, and those areas should raise a fit.

    Edit: the console versions should just say “we wanted to you to play something cool, but Microsoft/Sony are big children and wouldn’t let us! Get the PC version!”

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