Score! Blood Bowl Legendary Edition Out

By Quintin Smith on October 29th, 2010 at 9:34 am.

They did the mash! They did the monster mash.

More stadiums! More star-players! A new Story mode! More than double the number of playable races, including Ogres, Nurgle, Necromantic and High Elves!

Blood Bowl: Legendary Edition has been released, and it’s all a bit much for a Friday morning. I haven’t even had my tea yet. If you already own Blood Bowl, Cyanide is offering a 33% discount on the Legendary Edition if you order through their online shop. Good news, considering the RPS Blood Bowl leagues are still going strong. Launch trailer after the jump. For some reason it’s just a bunch of shots of cheerleaders. Maybe it’ll make sense after tea.

I guess they just didn’t want to reveal that Blood Bowl was actually a grid-based strategy game. Hmm. Off the back of this trailer, I expect a small handful of deeply upset customers.

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  1. SquareWheel says:

    And here I always assumed it was a bowling game.

  2. President Weasel says:

    A goodly bunch of us have a complex (and deeply rewarding) league running on RPS’s very own forums, if you’re interested – and I believe you should be, because the game’s rather good.
    We’re currently running season 4 using the old edition, while everyone picks up the Legendary Edition and gets to know the new teams, so anyone who thinks they might be interested has a week or two to pick up the game, find out if you enjoy it, and apply for next season. I look forward to seeing some new faces! (and punching them).

    Incidentally, Play.com are currently offering the Legenday Edition at £17.99, which I believe is slightly cheaper than the discounted loyalty price I got from the publisher.
    Other online retailers are available.

    • Snidesworth says:

      I was debating buying this when I heard it was £30. £18 though? Sold. Thanks for the heads up.

    • Bhazor says:

      Any idea whether buying direct from the site just unlocks it on Steam or is it a separate download? Because if its the same price I’d rather give the money straight to the makers than have Steam take a chunk.

  3. Lengle says:

    I do hope they’ve improved those pesky commentators. I love Blood Bowl, I hope they’ve improved on load times between games and potential stuttering, though that could just be my PC.

    • Choca says:

      They added more comments but they still get pretty boring after a while.

    • President Weasel says:

      in my case the value of “a while” was “one match”; although there might still be the odd team-specific lines I haven’t heard, I’d pretty much heard all the other new lines, and re-heard a bunch of the old ones, after one game. Time to turn them down again, I think.

  4. Choca says:

    New Story mode : useless, really. You get to coach a few teams for a limited time (sometimes it’s half a match, sometime it’s a few games) and you have to complete objectives without caring about winning or losing (unless it’s in your objectives of course). It doesn’t feel like playing Blood Bowl and most of the objectives are counter-productives (what’s the point of learning how to play a passing game with the halflings ?)

    As far as I can see, all of the badly implemented rules of the first game are gone, which is great.

    The online UI was remade, which is good news too.

    The A.I. is much stronger in some ways (it builds better cages, chooses better skills at level up, plays a better passing game, etc) but really can’t compete against someone with a little experience because it fails to understand some of the core mechanics of Blood Bowl (like fouling, delaying a touchdown on the line or trying some batshit insane strategies on turn 8 and 16).

    The new teams look pretty cool except for the Amazon which are pretty meh, animations are still pretty sub-par though

    There are a few minor bugs laying around but Cyanide has been extremely reactive so far on the patching (already three hotfixes out as we speak)

    So far, I’m really pleased by it, it’s everything I was expecting it to be.

  5. Pemptus says:

    It was a graveyard smash.

  6. jon_hill987 says:

    I still think they should have released this in the same manner as Wizards did with the Duels of the Planeswalkers DLC, whereby people without it could still play (online only) against those with it, even if their opponent was using some of the new stuff, they just couldn’t use the new stuff themselves.

    I will probably get it, but it does depend on the number of people from my league that do, there is no point in getting it if I end up stuck playing Dark Elves Edition anyway…

    • Choca says:

      Blood Bowl uses LRB 5.0 rules and Blood Bowl LE uses LRB 6.0 rules so there would have been trouble if they did it that way.

    • jon_hill987 says:

      I thought they just updated DEE to V6 in the patch? The certainly updated some rules.

    • Choca says:

      You may be right, I haven’t played DEE since I’ve had the LE

  7. Easydog says:

    If you have the original ‘Blood Bowl: Dark Elves Edition’ on steam then the 33% offer carries that over for the Legendary edition.

    • Tony M says:

      I’ve heard the discount applies to wherever you purchased the original game. I got both from the official site and got the discount.

    • jon_hill987 says:

      Amazon are offering a 40% discount regardless of your ownership of the original. Basically, don’t buy it from Steam.

    • President Weasel says:

      You can use your Steam product key to get the discount from the publisher site, which is what I did. However it’s still cheaper on Play, and from the sound of the post above also cheaper on Amazon.

    • Lengle says:

      Am I seeing this correctly though. It’s still about £30 after discount. I may be a tight bastard, but that’s expensive for me for a new edition of a game I already own. If anything this is an expansion on the original release, so IMO they shouldn’t be trying to shift it for that level of coin.

      As the game goes, I have the original edition and have only played single player so far (not long owned the thing) but I’d like to invest time into MP and perhaps a league.

    • jon_hill987 says:

      No, £30 is the RRP you get your discount on top of that, but like I said, Amazon (and play aparently) think 40% off id a better price and are selling it at £17.99

    • disperse says:

      Amazon are offering a 40% discount regardless of your ownership of the original.

      I’m not seeing this deal, Amazon.com has BB:LE for $40. Is this a UK only deal? Where’s the best place to buy the game for US residents?

      I prefer Steam for the convenience of automatic updates but bought a boxed copy of the original game. I don’t see any way to get the upgrade price from Steam using a boxed copy’s serial. Any tips?

    • invisiblejesus says:

      I’m not seeing the discount anywhere on Amazon, either. Does the deal show up in your cart or something?

    • jon_hill987 says:

      They have sold out and raised the price again on Amazon. :(

    • jon_hill987 says:

      Well they haven’t raised the price and you can still get it at £17.99 but it will take a month. It is the third party sellers that want £29.99

  8. Alethron says:

    The new edition is awesome. I feel that load times have been improved a little. Its great going up against such a wide variety of teams now, and the implementation of the up to date rules has really improved things.

    The commentators do say a few more things but they’re still pretty repetitive. I like the animations for a lot of the new teams, there are some great characters (seeing the mummies lumber around for the first time made me laugh out loud).

    Haven’t touched the story mode myself, just been playing online. The community is extremely friendly, top notch. Join us!

  9. Jonathan says:

    Oh my — the idea of a Beast of Nurgle decked out in BB armour is more joy than I can take this early in the morning.

    • Choca says:

      The Beast of Nurgle is really turning out to be my favorite Big Guy in LRB 6.0. It really is the ultimate road block. Can’t fight it, can’t dodge it and can’t play ball around it.

  10. apricotsoup says:

    Why was I not aware of the RPS league before? Oo
    Guess I’ll have to try and pop on by.

    The only question is do I bring the flings? :D

  11. Spacewalk says:

    Still rocking the third edition board game down here.

  12. Tycho says:

    Love the skeletal cheerleaders!

    • President Weasel says:

      the snotling ones for the ogre team are good as well: three of them standing on each others’ shoulders.

  13. neolith says:

    Why are there female orc cheerleaders?

  14. JuJuCam says:

    Have UI issues been addressed? I would love an option to actually see every dice roll including target rolls as they happen, rather than only after they fail…

    • jon_hill987 says:

      I think you can in DEE, there is a tab in the chat pane I think.

    • Choca says:

      You could see dice roll from the very first version of the game actually, it’s a tab in the chat.

      They are even more detailed in the LE.

  15. Artist says:

    Yes, yes, yes! Every boardgame league in my hometown broke apart cos of lack of participation! Now things will change! All races! Finally! Bold decision, Cyanide!

    • disperse says:

      All races, excluding Chaos Dwarves, Slann, Chaos Pact, and Underworld.

    • Malibu Stacey says:

      Since when was creating your product almost to the requirements specifications a bold decision? Oh because they got slightly further this time than last time for the same £30/$40 they’re asking you to pay?

    • Artist says:

      Isnt it obvious that Cyanide tried to release races as Addons or DLCs? It seems that BB did not sell that well, so it can ideed be called bold to set everything on the Legendary-Release-Card to make a nice cut.
      In case BB sold better than I think I withdraw “bold” and add “wondering” why they did not went the ugly DLC-path instead!?

  16. Malibu Stacey says:

    I love Blood Bowl, have done since I played my first game of the tabletop about 15 years ago but I’ll be deferring purchasing this until it’s on the inevitable Steam sale. A Wot I Think could change my mind I suppose but the first game was such a bad implementation of an already fully designed game & the cynicism of charing full price for both games while knowing full well the first game was never finished (and now never will be) leaves a sour taste. Gamers shouldn’t be encouring this type of behaviour bu unfortunately most gamers can’t see past the end of their next 5 minute gaming fix.

    • Archonsod says:

      Y’know, some of us actually found the first edition to be a perfectly acceptable translation.

    • Malibu Stacey says:

      “Acceptable” may be good enough for you. Unfortunately the glaring bugs in the skills, the missing parts of the rules & all the missing teams without even going into the issues with the UI & AI put some of us with slightly higher standards of what a finished product is off.

    • Archonsod says:

      Given I gave up on the boardgame circa 1988 I never noticed any bugs in the rules. Nor did I note any particular issues with the AI or the UI for that matter.

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    drewski says:

    I’ve been playing DEE edition for a while, but I’m awful – I can’t even beat the AI consistently.

    Any advice? I play Dark Elves.

    • disperse says:

      Dark Elves should play bashy against finesse teams and play finesse against bashy teams. Use your 4 agility to dodge away from chaos warriors and black orcs and set up your witch elves for 2 2d blocks by carefully placing assists. With an available reroll, every player on an Elf team is a potential thrower/catcher. It isn’t a bad idea to have a player within a round’s movement of the end zone at all times so, when the ball gets loose, you can pick it up, hand off, pass, and score.

  18. MJS says:

    Only remembered about this last night but managed to snag the £17.99 pre order off amazon, still showing that price but now delivery time is 1-2months, which I guess is their way of saying out of stock. Hopefully my order got through…supposed to be dispatched today but no email yet… :(

  19. Tom OBedlam says:

    Blighty’s Blighters Represent!

  20. Vinraith says:

    No significant AI improvements and no mods so this time the community can’t even try fix the broken single player. If I want to play Blood Bowl in MP I’ll do it free with FUMBBL. If I want a dose of single player Blood Bowl I’m better off with a modded up Dark Elves edition. Legendary’s good for exactly nothing.

    • disperse says:

      Are mods disallowed in some official way? The AI is supposed to be a bit better in LE but it would be disappointing if teams without new models, such as Chaos Pact and Underworld, couldn’t be modded in.

    • Archonsod says:

      The AI has been overhauled. It actually understands concepts like “Elves are a passing team, not a bashing team” and “the purpose of Skaven is to score as quickly as possible, whenever possible” these days. It’s also generally better at setting TD’s, gangfouls and all the other good stuff. Only thing it seems a bit shaky on now are the odd special rules – I’ve not seen it use a goblin bomber yet (to lob a bomb that is, it fields them regularly enough) and it sometimes gets a bit silly with Vampires (silly/sensible; it’s good enough to start subbing out vamps for thralls when the number of thralls drops, but it’s not too good at keeping thralls handy in case a vamp fancies a bite during it’s turn). It also makes better use of skills like throw player, wrestle and the like.

      In all single player modes you’re also up against experienced AI teams from the off – lower division tends to approach a TV of 1400 or thereabouts – and it picks some decent skills this time and you’ve got a much more satisfying single player game. It also tends to carry a few more subs, particularly for the fragile teams. Throw in the extra races, the new rules implemented (weather is particularly fun when both teams are left trying to pick up a loose ball, in the rain, with zombies) and it’s pretty much an all around improvement on the first edition. Well worth the extra £20.

    • disperse says:

      Modders are already working on the Slann:

      http://www.moddb.com/mods/project-slann

  21. Vinraith says:

    @disperse

    Yes, Games Workshop demanded they lock things down to prevent meddling with their IP.

    @Archonsod

    The AI has been overhauled.

    If you look at the interviews, they basically fixed the glaring bugs in the original game’s AI that had already been modded to correction by the community for the first game and called it a day.

    • disperse says:

      Yes, Games Workshop demanded they lock things down to prevent meddling with their IP.

      Well, there’s a big difference between Games Workshop getting all pouty about their IP and not letting Cyanide host official mods and Cyanide programming an Unmoddable Game. The best security I could imagine them implementing would prevent you from using a modded client for online play. Knowing Cyanide, however, I doubt they’ve gone that far. The mods will come, just give the modders time.

      If you look at the interviews, they basically fixed the glaring bugs in the original game’s AI that had already been modded to correction by the community for the first game and called it a day.

      Yeah, I heard there were mistakes in the XML files that were making catchers act like blitzers and the like. The mod community fixed it fairly quickly and Cyanide integrated those fixes in the Legendary Edition.

    • Matzerath says:

      I would hope Cyanide fixed more about the A.I. then what could be changed through the database. The community did what they could with that because that’s all they had access too, unlike the developer who of course has access to the actual game code.

    • Clovis says:

      The mod community didn’t get that far with the AI in Dark Elves did they? I installed what I thought were the most current mods and got an AI that could only beat me ’cause the timer was set to 40 seconds. I’d never played BB until I bought it, but I never lost a single game. I guess I could play against teams with inflated skill and a 40 second timer, but I enjoy making my decisions carefully. I thought I read that the mods can’t stop the AI from playing really, really terribly, especially with teams that don’t work well with the one AI routine that they wrote.

      I guess I would just be really annoyed if the AI was better in the LE, since it meant I wasted my money on the one I bought. I think I got a good 4 hours out of the game while learning the rules.

  22. Hardtarget says:

    ugh missread and thought they were offering a 33% off discount if you bought through them for anybody as a launch promo type thing

    I want the game but I’m not about to pay 40 bucks for it

  23. Pijama says:

    Could RPS do a veredict or a humble Wot I Think for it?

    I have set my eyes on this one for a long time, curious to see what other posters can say about it. :D

  24. TinyPirate says:

    So gutted there’s league play but no ladder play.

  25. Snall says:

    I got this and I have to say it’s pretty awesome- even though learning to play by playing the Vampire team is a real bitch and a half….easily worth $40 imo since it has awesome single player with a never ending game if you want- and deep MP leagues, etc.