Clash Of Pings: Game Of Thrones Video

By Craig Pearson on February 2nd, 2012 at 3:48 pm.

I am Lord Hmpmpphpmph of the lands of Tethththtthtrh
That joke doesn’t make much sense. Cyanide’s Game of Thrones RPG is definitely not online, so I’ll apologise to those of you who’d started considering guild names after reading it. It is a Dragon Age-ish actiony slicey thing set in George RR Martin’s grim medieval world. I have thoughts on the video below.

Right. Where the heck is Riverspring? I’ve consulted my annotated map of Westeros, that I keep under my pillow next to my warg tooth, and it appears to be an invention of the game developers, along with the ruling clan the Sarwycks. I’m always baffled by this sort of thing: I understand that the story’s characters have lives to live out according to Martin’s canon, but his history spans hundreds of years and makes mention of thousands of characters that the books don’t focus on. Why add to that? I hope we get to meet some of the more famous people in the world. If I’m denied a dalliance with Tyrion, my wrath will be like the Stallion That Mounts the World. I’m aware of what happens to him (The Stallion, not Tyrion. Apologies for the confusion) in the books, so save your sarky comments or I’ll get Ned Stark on your asses. And, yes, I know what happens to him as well. This is the problem with A Game Of Thrones: I can’t make a compelling threat out any of the characters. Stop maiming and killing people, George!

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  1. Unaco says:

    That joke doesn’t make much sense… and your clickable main images don’t work either Craig.

  2. Belsameth says:

    If the quality of the narrator in the trailer is representitive of the final game, I fear deeply…

  3. Meat Circus says:

    It’s not a grim fantasy world. Big chunks of it are quite brightly lit.

  4. iARDAs says:

    I believe this game will either be good or bad. Perhaps average.

    the thing is the RTS game of Game of Thrones was pretty average if not between average and bad, i am just hoping for a good game because the books and the tv show deserves a good video game.

    Anyone with me? Say HEE YOOO

  5. Freud says:

    A November-December release with a cheesy “Winter is coming” ad campaign?

    • Sizzlack says:

      It seems fitting, if by winter we mean “Half assed game meant to milk the cash cow of a beloved fantasy series”

      Then, why it IS coming.

  6. Lobotomist says:

    I must say, its amazing to see how people are so eager to see game of this type based on Game of Thrones.

    Clearly they only seen the first and brief glimpse into universe based on the TV series.

    But RR.Martins universe and its main characters have such brief and horrible lives , its actually impossible to base any ongoing fiction around them….

    I guess people will learn that soon enough in second season of TV series ;)

    • Joshua says:

      I think a lot of people learn that in the first as well :).

    • monkeybars says:

      What? It’s an exciting fantasy setting. Why would we not want a game based on that, to play and tool around in Westeros?

      I don’t understand your point of characters dying, and how that would make people not want to play a game. I get that you’re trying to be subtle and hint that you’ve read all the books so that makes you better than the people who just watch the TV show, but it’s not working.

      And because a handful of main characters die isn’t really a deal-breaker when there are so many.

      I hope someone makes a Skyrim overhaul mod based on the books. One that doesn’t get shut down.

    • Blackcompany says:

      Quit reading after three books for this reason. I love a good, dark fantasy tale (hence the screen name) but this is both ridiculous and borderline depressing. No character a person can actually like gets any attention or lives long enough to matter. Jon Snow and the Wall are an interesting realm…too bad you never hear about them. I long to know the details of Rob Stark’s exciting and bloody campaign with Grey Wind at his side…and instead am stuck with Sansa’s whining and Cercei’s incest. Oh, and Dani’s playing dress up and prancing about the plains.

      Sorry, but I fail to see the appeal after about book 3. Started amazingly strong. Book 1 was amazing, full of character and life. But it slowly degenerates into ‘character A, though smart, will make the decision which is most like to: a. Get them killed, and B. Overcomplicate the already ridiculous plot. Transparent, bloody and impossible to actually get behind. Ever.

    • Unaco says:

      That’s funny to read from someone called Blackcompany… a series of books which were good at first, but descended rapidly into mediocrity, deus ex machinas and macguffins. A series that created decent characters, and then completely failed to do anything worthwhile with them. A series that, to conclude, the author simply threw characters away.

      You complain that no character that anyone can like gets any time… I think the fact that so many people have continued with the series shows this to be false. It could just be that YOU don’t like the characters.

    • Kieron Gillen says:

      Honestly, that sort of complaint always sounds like “Ick! Girls!” to me.

      KG

    • Blackcompany says:

      I will grant you that the Black Company novels did decline in quality toward the end. Something too many fantasy series suffer from, really. Martin’s book, in my opinion, seemed to do this far faster than most, but it is not an unknown phenomenon. Jordan, Goodkind, Martin, Cook…all of them did the same thing toward the end. Even the Dark Tower suffered toward the finale.

      Imagine the world we would live in if Tolkien had kept going…I shudder to think.
      ….
      Each to their own. I simply prefer characters with a little more lasting presence – and better decision making skills – than those Martin offers. I’m glad others enjoy the series and I would never begrudge them their enjoyment. Would that I could understand how they continue to enjoy it, on the other hand…

    • monkeybars says:

      @Blackcompany

      Clearly you didn’t read all of book three. And you obviously aren’t reading it close enough, because you’re given all the details about Robb’s campaign through the chapters of other characters. You just don’t find out about it from Robb’s perspective.

    • Unaco says:

      @KG…

      Which complaint? That The Tales of the Black Company lost its way with the last half of the Books of Glittering Stones? And that ‘Soldiers Live’ made the series completely unsalvageable even if Glen Cook could come up with a decent plot again?

      Don’t get me wrong… I actually thoroughly enjoyed the whole Black Company saga, but for Soldiers Live, which I felt was an attempt to wrap everything up and really wasn’t handled satisfactorily.

      Or the complaint that Martins character have such short lives (which isn’t true… Martin doesn’t kill of all of his characters, but just enough to let the reader know that NO ONE is safe/invincible/armoured by plot), and that he shows that words can be just as powerful as swords?

      U

    • Kieron Gillen says:

      Unaco: I was sort of nodding towards Black Company’s “I wish there was more boys own adventure and less of the women and their periods” position. And – er- I’m pretty sharp today. My tongue’s in cheek, but it feels like stating the fucking obvious that one of the things that distinguish the books is that they’re not just hanging around the traditional heroic fantasy leads.

      I haven’t read the Black Company books, so I’m well out of that.

      KG

    • Jimbo says:

      *THOSE THINGS YOU SAID YOU LIKED* feature quite a lot in the third book iirc.

      Edit: Fuck you, front page.

    • Lowbrow says:

      I have to agree. One of the series for me is the refusal of traditional “chosen hero” fantasy tropes. I would say the short and nasty lives of Martin’s characters make for BETTER storytelling. It still amazes me that there aren’t more series/movies about Late Roman/early Byzantine history. Ammianus Marcillinus is a much more exciting read in many respects than Tacitus.

      If you haven’t read a lot of fantasy, you may have a different perspective on this.

    • Unaco says:

      @KG,

      I figured as much. Was just with your comment coming directly after mine, I thought it might have been about my comment. And I figured I could elaborate on my position on the Black Company in a comment. Your clarification makes it make sense now.

      It is that step away from the traditions (tropes and cliches and stereotypes) of fantasy that make ASoIaF and the Black Company so refreshing… which is why I don’t understand Blackcompany’s (the commenter) position. They maybe go in wholly different directions (The Black Company is really a boys adventure) but I would reckon the openness to appreciate one would allow for the appreciation of the other… maybe not liking it, but still appreciating it for what it’s doing: The world is brutal, characters are vulnerable, there are Politics at play (words as powerful as swords), and so on.

    • codename_bloodfist says:

      @Blackcompany

      Sir, how dare you not like the Song of Ice and Fire series?! By my honour, I challenge you to a duel! Bring your second to Tower Bridge a fortnight from now and we will settle this matter of paramount importance once and for all. *gets out his official Game of Thrones colouring book and crayons*

    • NathanH says:

      What I dislike about the series most is that you pretty much know that as soon as a previous competent character becomes POV, all of their schemes will unravel.

    • wererogue says:

      The thing with Sansa is that while she’s incredibly, frustratingly stupid, her chapters are easily as good as the others, and a strong part of the narrative.

      Shit doesn’t just go down north of the wall.

      I really don’t remember book 3 the way you seem to. It certainly has some Rob content, if no Rob POV, and the Catelyn chapters were excellent. There’s plenty of Tyrion at his best, too.

      Book 4 was a little weak for me, but only because all of the awesome for that period is in book 5, which retroactively gave me context increasing my love for book 4.

    • Matt-R says:

      Hah! someone I can agree with I’m actually shocked.. personally I loved the first book albeit confusion over Ned being supreme tactician of stupid, and.. well to be honest the ending of that book kinda.. well kinda foreshadowed what was to be me laughing at the setting rather than able to take it seriously.

      No, no.. you too can suckle dragons.

      I’d rather see Malazan get more spotlight, albeit this also suffers from losing focus and “goodness” as it goes on.

      Possibly not the best thread to talk about this though, but yeah, I stopped reading about book 3, it was too funny whilst taking itself so seriously.

    • PoulWrist says:

      Song of Ice and Fire kind of dies out in the 3rd book, 4th was terribly boring, and he took so long to write the 5th that I didn’t even bother getting it yet. Maybe I never will. I did in fact read the first 3 twice, second time to get ready for book 4, which also took an inordinate amount of time, since I’d read the 3 first shortly after book 3 was out. The first two are pretty great, but the 3rd drags on, and the 4th … blergh. Book 5 is probably more of the same.

      And the TV series looks like an upbudgeted Xena. Everything too small and mean for its fantasy counterpart of the books.

  7. woodsey says:

    It looks rubbish so far. The narrator sounded like he couldn’t maintain interest for the 5 lines he had.

    • Sizzlack says:

      I was half expecting a yawn about half way through.

    • Eddy9000 says:

      At least it looks rubbish from the outset. If it stayed true to the book series then it would start off really good, and then release DLC every six years that was gradually shitter and shitter making you feel like you’ve wasted hundreds of hours being led down the garden path.

    • mouton says:

      I am reading the fifth book and while it is not perfect, I am surprised to actually find it much better than the fourth. I had quite low expectations after Feast of Crows.

      I am not done, though.

  8. Wizardry says:

    Where’s the turn-based combat?

  9. LazerBeast says:

    This doesn’t look very good.

    I would have rather seen this game take place beyond the Wall. I think there is a lot more room for telling a story there then within the Westeros.

    • Blackcompany says:

      Completely agree. Unless you enjoy soap operas, Westeros just ain’t that exciting.

    • Roaring Panda says:

      Yeah Westeros is pretty dull apart from the constant Civil War, lawless country, dragons, mercenaries, slavers and the horrors beyond the wall. No gameplay in that at all.

    • Smashbox says:

      Recipe for ASOIAF RPG: build Riverlands in detail, be Berric Dondarrion, etc. that’s it.

    • Sizzlack says:

      “Recipe for ASOIAF RPG: build Riverlands in detail, be Berric Dondarrion, etc. that’s it. ”

      This is right on.

      You could make an entire game about Dondarrion and his “King’s men” in their bandit life during the War of the Five Kings. Then you get the added fun of when they go vigilante and set out to bring vengeance to the Frey’s and Bolton’s. Fun times all around.

  10. mjig says:

    I don’t even understand how you can make a Game of Thrones video game. Combat is like 5% of the story, it simply serves as a motivation for the Machiavellian maneuverings and character interaction. Unless you can somehow simulate the hundreds of different things you could do to influence political outcomes of Westeros, it’s just a bland, generic game.

    • Blackcompany says:

      Again, agreed. These do make more sense as a strategy game than an RPG.

    • Kdansky says:

      Yeah, because it’s impossible to make a game about anything except combat!!!111one

    • The Sombrero Kid says:

      I had to comment on this because it stinks of narrative snobbery so deeply even Kdanskys comment wasn’t enough, esp. given the source material is probably the worst example of it’s form ever committed to paper.

      Books are not better at conveying complex non-linear narratives, if anything they’re a less apt medium.

    • Brass_cankles says:

      I agree with Kdansky on this one.

      Although I do not know anything about the GoT universe other than from the TV show, I do know my way around RPGs. A low-combat, “political” RPG with a deep choice & consequence mechanic would make for one of the most interesting RPGs since Fallout. And with a license like GoT, they would be able to market such an “unorthodox” (by today’s standards) RPG to a significant audience. I’m sure the hardcore GoT fans would be ecstatic, and a lot of old-school CRPG-players would as well.

      Yeah, I’m pretty good at wishful thinking. It’s probably gonna be a Dragon Age II of sorts. Let the blandness begin!

    • IDtenT says:

      I’m still waiting on a political RPG.

    • Wizardry says:

      “Choices & consequences” isn’t a mechanic in Fallout.

    • Brass_cankles says:

      There’s lots of choice and consequence in Fallout. That was not my point, however. I was merely saying that Fallout was rather unique and interesting when it came out.

    • Wizardry says:

      Oh. What made it unique?

    • Brass_cankles says:

      I found the atmosphere, soundtrack and SPECIAL system unique and refreshing.

      edit: Also, I hadn’t really played an RPG with a similar setting since I laid my hands on Wasteland in the very early 90s.

    • mjig says:

      How are 3 or 4 dialog choices a political RPG? There has never been one and I have no reason to believe that this will be the first.

    • Lowbrow says:

      “Books are not better at conveying complex non-linear narratives, if anything they’re a less apt medium.”

      [citation needed}

    • bladedsmoke says:

      “I’m still waiting on a political RPG.”

      Have you ever heard of Crusader Kings or Crusader Kings 2?

      Cos, er, you might like them.

    • The Sombrero Kid says:

      @Lowbrow “[citation needed}” [citation needed}

    • IDtenT says:

      @bladedsmoke: Hah! I do play them indeed. I never thought of it as a political RPG. Even though it really is. I must mull this over.

  11. Tuco says:

    I wonder why there isn’t one single preview/interview/whatever about this game trying to nail down what sort of RPG it is supposed to be, exactly.

    Mostly linear and story driven à la Bioware? Sandbox, TES style (very unlikely)? Open world with a somehow driven progress, like Gothic?
    It would be nice at least to know what sort of game it is, before even trying to get any excitement or anticipation for it.

  12. Moonracer says:

    I just move things in Skyrim around in my head and pretend. That’s enough Game of Thrones for me. “Ooh, a mammoth!”

  13. Lars Westergren says:

    I liked the trailer a lot, made me more interested in the game. Graphics looked fine, and the narrator sounded ok to me. I’m not a native English speaker though, so I may miss nuances.

  14. Brotacon says:

    They should make a Game of Thrones videogame like Mount and Blade.

    I’d play the hell out of that.

    • TsunamiWombat says:

      Mount and Blade doesn’t exactly do dialogue very well, though, and fighty fighting isn’t much of ASOIAF

    • Jonith says:

      Theres a mod for Mount and Blade (Original) that changes it into A Song of Ice and Fire. Don’t know if that was what you wanted, but I would recommend it as it is a well made mod.

  15. Skabooga says:

    “No one was much surprised when Lord Sarwyck died. He was kind of a dick. And he owed me ten bucks.”

    I was momentarily caught off balance when the narrator didn’t say something like that. He really seemed to have it out for the Lord and his family.

  16. GoldenJoel says:

    “I know what happens to Tyrion…”

    HEY THANKS MAN. Now I know something HAPPENS to my favorite character. Of course, that’s just a fancy way of saying HE FUCKING DIES.

    Jerk.

    • kud13 says:

      As of the end of DANCE, he’s still alive
      and if Craig got advance reader copy of WINDS, well, i’m finding out where he lives, lol

      on-topic: I wan this to be good, but noghting i’ve seen so far makes me want this game. ASOIAF itself is a good series (though it loses some points on the wait times, especially when compared with Malazan Book of the Fallen (which I’ve just finished re-reading)), but if we could get a decent story set in Westeros, i’d be all for it.
      I don’t think Riverlands is a good setting for one, however. I’d much rather we started out in Oldtown, or something, and then had to cross the Riverlands, to get to the Vale and beyond–if the story’s taking place at the same time as the books, Cyanide’d be a lot better off covering parts of Westeros that don’t get a lot of attention from Martin.

    • Craig Pearson says:

      I actually meant I know what happens to the Stallion, but can see how you read it that way.

  17. Zepp says:

    If the game delivers adequate numbers of midget porn and/or wincest I will be contented.

  18. Binho says:

    Hmm, could be ok? Doesn’t look too bad in terms of graphics. Curious to learn more though.

    One thing does bother me though: In recent medieval-fantasy games, why do logos/insignias/coats of arms always look like they were created by a graphic designer using photoshop? I mean, they probably were – but it kind of bugs me and ruins the atmosphere a bit. They could at least try to make it look like it was designed by someone with a paintbrush, following the culture’s art traditions. Skyrim is pretty bad at this as well.

  19. slingshot says:

    I’m only half way through book two. I’m wondering if this article constitutes as a spoiler?

    • Riggs says:

      Slingshot I’d say yes …. I’ve come to realize you never fall in love with anyone in GoT. But seriously I would of liked to find out that something bad happens to Tyrion myself, without this guy telling me. Nevermind for people who haven’t finished season one, w/ the Ed Stark spoiler. Do you proof read your shit Craig? I wouldn’t of even posted that in a chat room, nevermind RPS …. actually created RPS login just to scold you!

    • Craig Pearson says:

      It doesn’t. It wasn’t about Tyrion, as I’ve said elsewhere. Just clumsy writing.

  20. Riggs says:

    Craig what the hell dude, seriously what the fuck? Nice spoiler on Tyrion, I already knew what happened to Ned but why the hell did you have to spoil? Only on like page 200 of 2nd book, thanks for that. I love this site, but seriously shut the fuck up on the spoilers dude.

    • Unaco says:

      Do not panic yourself… Either Craig doesn’t know what he’s talking about, was making a joke, or was referring to something other than what it appears he’s referring to. I don’t know how much of a spoiler it is to say someone doesn’t die, but so far, from what has been published, Tyrion still lives.

    • Stevostin says:

      Don’t rely too much on what you understood from what he said. I could just say that for the sake of saving your read but the fact is what he says is more ambiguous than what you read, and there’s a reason.

      Read the damn books. While in the middle of it, don’t read about the TV shows, the videogame, etc. Common sense, don’t you think ?

    • Craig Pearson says:

      I was talking about Dany’s babber. Can see how you read it that way, though. Chill.

    • Unaco says:

      Actually, Craig has just responded up thread. When he says “I know what happens to him in the book”, he doesn’t mean Tyrion, but the Stallion that mounts the world, which he mentions just before.

    • Craig Pearson says:

      Yeah. It’s clumsy wording on my behalf.

    • age says:

      Now I’ve been spoilered because I know Tyrion doesn’t die :(

      Very poor.

  21. Stevostin says:

    Do someone has somewhere a clear information on the very basics of the game ? Is it open world ? Is it first person ? Is it real time ? I do like the look of it (I seem to be alone on this though) but I want to know if it’s a game for me or not.

  22. Riggs says:

    Still a spoiler just a different spoiler now lol, but w/e least I knew that. Still sucks for anyone else who was able to decipher that and didn’t know. Stevostin really? Common sense to me is not spoiling shit for people, I have the decency to adhere to these rules in forums/chat/ and real life. There is like three threads about GoT on neogaf and guess what I never ever click into them. Because I have common sense. Editor on a gaming website, which has a fan base that probably would love an epic fantasy novel but might have not read it yet, should know better. Common sense! I only read this article because I know the game has jack shit to do with the books, and wanted to get a feel for the graphics. Tell me to chill is ok since I swore a few times, sorry about that. Just put tags up next time geeze.

  23. Megadyptes says:

    If she sticks her chest out any further she’ll have somebodies eye out.

  24. Ezhar says:

    What exactly is the point of making a game who’s only selling point is that it plays in Westeros – and then not letting it play in Westeros?

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