By John Walker on May 30th, 2012 at 2:00 pm.

A very CGI trailer for the new Hitman is, well, odd. It’s Agent 47 murdering a collection of scantily clad women, who were moments earlier dressed as nuns. It’s a trailer that is to feminism what cricket balls are to genitals. You can watch the Tarantino wet dream below.
It’s “an action-packed thrill ride, reflecting the very special vibe and atmosphere you can expect in HITMAN: ABSOLUTION™ when it launches globally on November 20,” according to the press release.
As a trailer it fails on a few levels. Firstly, on the level of actually trailing anything. Secondly, it’s clearly not a meaningful representation of the game. Thirdly, it’s tacky like a tar-covered glue stick.
But there we go – the sexual fantasy of chaste women revealing their sexuality, immediately before being murdered, is there for us all to enjoy.



30/05/2012 at 14:05 beekay says:
“reflecting the very special vibe and atmosphere you can expect in HITMAN: ABSOLUTION™”
I don’t think anyone could possibly make this sentence any worse than it is.
Oh my god why.
30/05/2012 at 14:06 beekay says:
nnnnnnggggg all they had to do was remake blood money
30/05/2012 at 14:38 jrodman says:
This?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_Money_%28video_game%29
It was fun, but a bit demanding for my modern self.
30/05/2012 at 14:54 Ultra Superior says:
Stupid and distasteful. What a faithlure.
30/05/2012 at 16:29 jimjames says:
You guys are way too much fun.
30/05/2012 at 17:28 Chandos says:
It might have gone something like this:
Marketing: “You can’t just rely on the old fans to make this a success. You need to reach out to a new generation.”
Devs: “How?”
Marketing: “Boobs. No seriously. Boobs and latex.”
Devs: “But that’s not what Hitman is all about!”
Marketing: “Right. That’s why we’ll have to reposition the brand to align with a male teenage sociopath’s wet dream. Let me show you the storyboard we have in mind…”
30/05/2012 at 23:05 DocSeuss says:
It’s like you’ve never played a Hitman game before. Didn’t they have a whole “party full of scantily-clad people dressed as angels and devils” thing?
31/05/2012 at 01:44 adam.jutzi says:
Yes. Yes they did.
Good times were had by all.
31/05/2012 at 04:04 BargainOnly_HalfMySoul says:
I don’t see how this is sexist. It’s not commentary on any kind of status of women or womanhood. It’s an ACTION-Movie trailer, with the expected gratuitous everything. I thought we got used to this kinda stuff ten years ago people. We can enjoy women and men being murdered and being sexy and using religion as a fashion statement. Sex, Violence, And Intelligence, and yes, even sensitivity. This is the game for me. Everything about this video and past absolution trailers have been brilliantly beautiful and slightly edgy. They’re going for sexy violence. Everything is HOT, the guns, the boobs, the muscle, the flames, the water! It’s about living in a shallow world of thieves and basking therefore in the killing of everything in sight with aesthetic pleasure. Religion is over, Feminism is over, Being Offended by media is over. Only real violence and the facade of peace remains. Enjoy the game when it arrives into your eyeballs and ingrains the new norms of lack of R.E.S.P.E.C.T. for human life into your brains- with a LOT of fun :(
31/05/2012 at 08:29 dash2 says:
We can enjoy women and men being murdered and being sexy and using religion as a fashion statement. Sex, Violence, And Intelligence, and yes, even sensitivity.
http://harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=311
31/05/2012 at 10:49 maninahat says:
The Hitman games often have scanty women – but they are NOT there for titillation. RPS did an article on it a while back. Basically, wherever 47 goes, the NPCs are often very blatant and extreme about their sexuality, to the point of being quite grotesque. This use of atmosphere convey 47′s perspective as an asexual killing machine who is confused and repulsed by human behaviour.
The trailer sort of missed the boat on that though. My favourite comment from youtube:
“HOW 12 YEARS OLD DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO LIKE THIS?”
30/05/2012 at 18:38 GT3000 says:
As a Catholic I approve of this trailer.
12/07/2012 at 18:04 cowardly says:
Not surprised.
31/05/2012 at 15:36 WJonathan says:
I guess the special vibe they wanted was revulsion?
30/05/2012 at 14:05 rapier17 says:
I tried to think of a pun to start a pun train with, but nun came to mind.
30/05/2012 at 14:07 JohnArr says:
We really need to get out of the habit of making pun threads.
30/05/2012 at 14:09 Llewyn says:
I agree entirely. But if this is to be the last, let’s send them out with a bang, not a wimple.
30/05/2012 at 14:13 MacBeth says:
I must say, that one was superior
30/05/2012 at 18:38 Fumarole says:
The trailer would have been improved if one of the nuns chaste him in the car at the end.
30/05/2012 at 14:14 Conor says:
I think pun threads are this site’s cross to bear.
31/05/2012 at 04:07 BargainOnly_HalfMySoul says:
so much so that my brain has been split. I now hear in real time people speaking to me with the literal meaning of every word, and on the other hand, i’m also running through all the other meanings of every word that ran through my years.
31/05/2012 at 09:49 Blaaaaaaag says:
You’ve violated a cardinal rule and used a metaphor.
31/05/2012 at 10:52 maninahat says:
From today, we need to sistermatically remove all of these puns.
30/05/2012 at 14:34 jonfitt says:
I think abbess thing to do would be to all go and have a nice cup of tea.
30/05/2012 at 14:35 iaguz says:
We’d best stop before we get inundated with the bloody things
30/05/2012 at 14:40 jrodman says:
Yes this indeed turning into a cloisterfuck of punnery.
30/05/2012 at 14:40 Fuzzball says:
Guys, thi saint funny anymore.
30/05/2012 at 14:49 Ultra Superior says:
You can’t deany those virtuel girls in puntyhose got smothered superiorly.
30/05/2012 at 14:58 ThinkAndGrowWitcher says:
Wow! Such stunning bodies – they really must have to exorcise ‘em. This trailer certainly demon strates that bad habits die hard.
30/05/2012 at 14:19 Man Raised by Puffins says:
Not to mention that it’s far too hot to be generating puns… Wait, do mine ears deceive me or is that a tinkling off-key rendition of Colonel Bogey? Excuse me chaps, I’m off to buy a Cornette-o!
30/05/2012 at 14:23 realmenhuntinpacks says:
This trailer’s certainly a little cloister the bone.
30/05/2012 at 14:40 tormeh says:
Noooo! Pun threads is theo primary reason I come here.
30/05/2012 at 15:34 Makariel says:
You are preaching to the choir.
30/05/2012 at 16:00 BooleanBob says:
Ah, pun threads. You never fail Teresa smile.
30/05/2012 at 14:09 Cooper says:
I dunno that pun threads are that bad. They’ve become fairly convent-ional around here.
30/05/2012 at 14:19 Paul C says:
Everyone who says the previous games were better is just looking at things through rosary-tinted spectacles.
30/05/2012 at 14:22 kleptonin says:
I don’t know, sometimes I think someone really ought to chaste-tise you all for these puns.
30/05/2012 at 14:34 alphadogg says:
Nuns? 47, it’s a trappist!
30/05/2012 at 14:41 jrodman says:
If your font of inspiration has run dry, get thee to a punnery.
30/05/2012 at 23:12 Stephen Roberts says:
I’m calling Private Eye, this is sacrilege.
31/05/2012 at 23:03 RegisteredUser says:
Just don’t go on a crusade over it.
Even if it makes your head spin.
30/05/2012 at 14:05 JohnArr says:
Good to see the Dragon Age marketing guys found work.
30/05/2012 at 14:51 Xardas Kane says:
Same thing crossed my mind. Let’s hope things go exactly the way they did with Origins – pathetic and moronic trailers (Marilyn Manson in a fantasy RPG baby!) only to turn out that they had nothing to do with the actual game. But IOI REALLY need to show something jaw dropping at E3, they have already pissed off the fans as it is.
Oh, and has anyone else noticed that 47 hasn’t uttered a single word in any of the trailers? He did so in the very first gameplay demo, but I am pretty sure that was a place holder. Makes you wonder, what with all the interviews with the other cast members.
30/05/2012 at 15:28 Zern says:
AFAIK 47 is no longer voiced by the voice actor from the previous games.
Maybe they don’t want to draw attention to that?
30/05/2012 at 15:45 Xardas Kane says:
I know that, but I am curious as to why we still haven’t seen the new guy. Maybe they are in fact going to get Bateson again..? Who knows, but it’s strange that they are so hush-hush about it.
30/05/2012 at 22:26 Sarkhan Lol says:
*bullet casings clang resonantly to the asphalt in slow-motion* *stands menacingly in the rain over the body of the last porno nun*
Agent 47: I NEED to use the BATH room.
30/05/2012 at 22:42 Xardas Kane says:
Puns and one-liners are exactly what Hitman has always sorely been missing.
30/05/2012 at 16:42 ThTa says:
Nah, if they did, it’d still be called Hitman: Subtitle (or would that be too sincere?)
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/05/16/all-hail-hitman-subtitle/
30/05/2012 at 14:07 obvioustroll says:
Oh God, here we go, you just had to mention the F word.
30/05/2012 at 14:24 yutt says:
Aaaah! Attractive women! Everyone react! React! If only video games stop having attractive women, husbands will stop being alcoholics and beating their wives. Also the Bible and Quran won’t promote the subjugation of women anymore! Video games are the linchpin holding the train that is sexism together.
30/05/2012 at 14:29 shizamon says:
There are proper ways to do attractive women / sexiness in games, and then there’s the way that marketers have been doing it for all eternity. If you can’t tell a difference keep enjoying the bud/coors/miller lite commercials.
30/05/2012 at 15:00 Joshua Northey says:
Exactly, this is sexuality fore 12 year olds. Look women who look like models dressed in lingerie’ with machine guns.
30/05/2012 at 15:33 Sparkasaurusmex says:
…and killed
30/05/2012 at 16:53 alundra says:
Proper way?? Get off your high horse please?? What’s proper for you isn’t for others.
Thanks.
30/05/2012 at 22:17 SkittleDiddler says:
————————————————-> His point.
Your head.
31/05/2012 at 04:33 alundra says:
@SkittleDiddler
You just did’t have anything to say, didn’t you? Better to remain silent and be thought a fool….
31/05/2012 at 05:05 Shadram says:
But who’s the bigger fool? The fool or the fool who… erm… says nothing and, er, pities the fool?
…
… Go feminism!
31/05/2012 at 19:05 SkittleDiddler says:
Awww, sorry ’bout that Alundra. Next time I’ll try not to make you cry.
You should probably try following your own advice.
30/05/2012 at 15:04 Prokroustis says:
thank you.
30/05/2012 at 17:21 Bhazor says:
… wow.
You really don’t get it do you?
30/05/2012 at 19:45 Tacroy says:
It’s not because of attractive women, it’s because this.
30/05/2012 at 14:07 MistyMike says:
Hitman is about infiltrating compounds disguised as a pizza delivery boy, not about cinematic (bleh!) shootouts with mulitiple enemies and bullet dodging. Bravo John Walker for the deserved ridicule.
30/05/2012 at 14:18 shizamon says:
I agree this trailer makes it seem like the game is gonna suck, like so many sequels nowadays.
But some shootouts have their place in Hitman games, like when things go wrong. The ones where you take out everyone in a room before they get a shot off, then hide all the bodies quickly, but it’s usually a reload/restart moment
30/05/2012 at 20:44 LionsPhil says:
Quite. THAT IS NOT HOW YOU SILENT ASSASSIN.
(As perhaps evidenced by all the wounds at the start. Sloppy play, tsch.)
30/05/2012 at 23:08 Contrafibularity says:
Wait…
does this mean 47 won’t be the only disguised assassin? I can’t remember if that ever happened in the previous games..
Other than that I shall ignore this video and hope this is not indicative of the audience they’re going for. The problem here isn’t that it’s sexist but that they clearly wanted a shit-storm of comments following the “any publicity is good publicity” logic, which isn’t strictly speaking true in the case of a Hitman game.
Well yeah that and it’s really sexist; just because they’re women assassins doesn’t mean they’d be stupid enough to approach 47 with an RPG… or wear silly stripper-nun outfits for that matter.. wait..
Hmm, I think my enthusiasm for this game somewhat diminished, and I have somehow unwillingly become less intelligent and more sexist.. or less sexist.. I don’t know. What did I just see? What is it with SQUEENIX and horrible cutscenes & trailers?
30/05/2012 at 14:08 Zepp says:
Did he really need to kill them? Such a waste. :( Imagine marvelous and blasphemous things he could achieve with those nuns…
30/05/2012 at 14:57 Ultra Superior says:
Happy thirteenth birthday! Soon you’ll be old enough to watch porn!
30/05/2012 at 15:31 Grape says:
Happy thirteenth birthday! Soon you’ll be old enough to watch porn!
Unless he’s being raised in some nightmarish sexually repressive household where his lovely soccer-mom installs some of those really fucked-up anti-porn “THAYUNK OF THE CHAYULDRUN!”-software on his computer so that he won’t be exposed to the horror of female nipples, then he’s already been watching porn for a good couple of years, now.
30/05/2012 at 15:38 Malk_Content says:
If he is on the internet he is old enough to watch porn. I dare say we all just sorta did.
30/05/2012 at 18:00 codename_bloodfist says:
I don’t see how having consensual sexual intercourse with these fine, in corset-clad young ladies is more immature than using them as meat shields and breaking their noses. Agent 47 and you, kind Sir, have some serious explaining to do.
30/05/2012 at 20:47 Grygus says:
I wonder how much of this protest is from guys who actually liked the trailer but didn’t want to see themselves as the kind of guys who liked the trailer. As a Hitman trailer it did seem odd to me, and I’m not saying that all criticism here is illegitimate, but as a two-minute piece of entertainment, it featured a little bit of sex and a lot of violence; since when do we not like these things? Maybe I missed a memo.
30/05/2012 at 14:08 MadTinkerer says:
I totally see what they’re trying to attempt here. Unfortunately, the result is basically Strong Female Characters (part 2).
30/05/2012 at 14:12 Lars Westergren says:
Brilliant. Unlike the trailer.
30/05/2012 at 15:33 mondomau says:
I think Kate Beaton is wonderful.
Also her comics.
30/05/2012 at 15:51 stahlwerk says:
Hark A Vagrant always needs more page hits. Hit it!
30/05/2012 at 19:46 Davie says:
I still think post-coital defenestration is the best thing on the internet.
01/06/2012 at 09:36 Groove says:
They need more half-turning, but otherwise yes.
Sexism is dead.
30/05/2012 at 14:10 BULArmy says:
Silent Assassin is the best Hitman game and this trailer even more solidify this opinion in my mind.
47 had style and good story back then. Now it looks like this will be one of those betrayed by everyone stories, which are so popular in the recent years and are part of sequels which don’t know where really to go.
30/05/2012 at 14:10 Belsameth says:
As much as that trailer isn’t Hitman… I do fancy me some of those nuns…
30/05/2012 at 16:45 dazman76 says:
If you don’t mind, I’m going to join you on what seems to be the “ZOMG are you 13?” step, by adding my own “yes please” response to this. I’m celebrating my return to teenhood, and would certainly like to remove 23 years from my age. We better not make a habit of this though.
By the way, what was the trailer about again?
30/05/2012 at 14:10 Nighthood says:
They’ve killed off the main voice actors. They’ve killed the gameplay (as can be seen by the gameplay videos). They’ve killed the idea that 47 is a sneaky assassin in favour of making him SO EDGY. They’ve killed anything good about the series.
Hitman is dead.
30/05/2012 at 14:22 jonfitt says:
There’s only one person that could kill Hitman so absolutely… hmm… is IO’s PR guy suspiciously bald? Is the lead designer also now bald? Have you ever seen them in the same room together and is the office supply closet stuffed full of something?
I think I see what’s going on here.
30/05/2012 at 15:00 Ultra Superior says:
One of the devs talking about the game was actually completely bald.
Or… he was just dressed as one of the devs.
30/05/2012 at 15:06 Xardas Kane says:
They have killed the gameplay? O rly, I must have missed that, please do tell!
Seriously, all the hate is based on thin air and it’s just a typical example of how quickly fans jump to conclusions. Gamers just love hate games, do you see the not-so-subtle irony in that?
What exactly have we seen so far to condemn the game? We have a new instinct mechanic, oh my, how bad is that! Now we can see where all the bad guys are any time, anywhere, and we couldn’t do that in the previous games! Oh wait, yes we could, with the minimap. The only difference being that now we can also see where the guards are headed with the trade-off that the ability is limited. It’s immersion breaking? Not in my book, being able to see the map of an entire area AND where all the NPCs are in past games was quite the magic trick, yet no one complained. How curious.
Second big “issue”, instinct will be regenerated by killing people! Well, no kidding, each and every Hitman game let players be aggressive guns-blazing psychos or actual silent assassins. Do we know exactly if there isn’t another way to get that instinct bar up? In fact I think we do, I am pretty certain IOI confirmed that in an interview. So what’s the problem again?
Third, Hitman isn’t about running away, it’s about infiltrating! While I do agree, they did say that assassinations will be in the game, just as before, and I think they just wanted to show off that they are trying to toy around with the formula a bit. After 4 games doing the same thing yet again might feel a bit stale and I respect them for trying something different. Only time will tell how well this works out, but at the very least you could give them the benefit of the doubt?!
Next up, too much action in the trailers. It’s called MARKETING people! Just look at Blood Money’s trailers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKnkUzA1NHE&feature=related and all the slow-motion gunning and killing. What are they supposed to show the consumer, waiting behind a door for a guard to pass? You think that sells?
Yes, how they did away with Bateson was disgraceful and humiliating, yes, I don’t like that Kyd won’t be doing the music. But at least give them a chance for crying out loud. None of the gameplay demos I have seen so far seem to suggest that they “ruined” the franchise.
30/05/2012 at 15:57 The_Great_Skratsby says:
If you can’t even factor why people are upset, disappointed and angry into consideration, then what is even the point in levelling an argument against them?
The trailer resonates the dread and unhappy sentiment surrounding the game, and fans who actually give a damn about the series – especially since the high that was Blood Money.
You can call it cheap marketing, and cite devs words, but it does nothing to push that large elephant in the room out of the way. Personally I just want the game to be good and expand on what Blood Money did so well, which overcame the previous games failings. All the media and interviews that I’ve digested don’t bode well, and I’d like to have my doubts proven wrong.
And it seems for many people who genuinely give a damn, including myself, a trailer like that does the complete opposite.
30/05/2012 at 16:42 Xardas Kane says:
The point is that I am trying to level with them, but so far not a single person has given an actual reason why the game would be a letdown. Neither did you. We got one pretty stupid trailer here, so what? It’s not even a GAMEPLAY trailer, just CGI. So please, do tell me what media and interviews you are talking about. I want to know where that elephant came from, because so far I’ve seen very little that sounds bad.
And again, hundreds of comments, not a single one going into specifics. O_O
31/05/2012 at 04:22 The_Great_Skratsby says:
I gave you a reason. The developer interviews, all the media that has been revealed to the public, and teaser trailers haven’t gone down well with myself, and apparently a good portion of people who care for the Hitman games.
Could the sentiment be wrong? Sure. Do videos like this actually worry people more? Well you had better believe it.
31/05/2012 at 11:03 Xardas Kane says:
No, you haven’t. “I’m worried” is as far fetched as it can get. WHAT exactly worries you? NOBODY has said a single concrete thing that looks bad.
30/05/2012 at 17:06 suibriel says:
Hey there IO marketing employee. Need to work on your disguise, champ.
30/05/2012 at 18:52 Xardas Kane says:
That’s what you come up with? Wow O_O Like I said, gamers love to hate games. And when they see a fan who actually supports the devs, they say he is a dev in disguise. The irony.
And I have yet to see a SINGLE REASON why Absolution is bound to suck as a game. 200 comments and none of them list one.
30/05/2012 at 19:23 iucounu says:
I’ve yet to see a single piece of evidence that this is what I would call a Hitman game. We have seen gameplay footage that plays out more like Metal Gear Solid or Splinter Cell than Hitman. We have seen a ferociously bad trailer, above, that positions it as a cartoonish shoot-em-up. We haven’t seen anything so far that suggests the core gameplay – sneaking into compounds dressed as a pizza deliveryman, as noted above – is in there.
I’m all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but I’m seriously worried they’ve screwed the pooch with this one.
30/05/2012 at 22:43 Xardas Kane says:
We HAVE seen him sneak OUT of a building dressed up as a policeman though, haven’t we? It’s not that far down the road.
01/06/2012 at 17:39 Xardas Kane says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9_pal859keA Happy? Does that satisfy your standards or are we gonna hate some more?
30/05/2012 at 16:57 sneetch says:
“They’ve killed off the main voice actors.”
They’ve killed the actual voice actors!? OMG! Someone should tell the police!
30/05/2012 at 14:10 empyrion says:
What were they thinking, sending women to do a man’s job?
Now let’s watch the internet explode… oh no it probably won’t.
30/05/2012 at 15:04 Ultra Superior says:
Yeah, you tell them, “keep it low, raise no suspicion, dress like someone else, you know, hitman style” they bring SM latex, nun costumes and RPGs. Typical women.
31/05/2012 at 00:57 cbanana says:
You mean men should wear fetish nun outfits and be then be killed after displaying sexuality?
01/06/2012 at 00:51 RegisteredUser says:
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30/05/2012 at 14:11 Cinnamon says:
What’s black and white and red all over? A fetish nun being killed by a grim faced bald assassin.
30/05/2012 at 14:17 jonfitt says:
Bravo.
30/05/2012 at 14:11 UmmonTL says:
I can think of little that could make me want to play the game less. What the hell where they thinking? My brain hurts…
I have not looked at anything else about the game so far but is this an attempt to reel in the FPS crowd or are they really gonna fuck up the Hitman formula this bad?
30/05/2012 at 14:12 Hoaxfish says:
I think I’m having flashbacks to the Sound of Music
30/05/2012 at 14:13 JackShandy says:
I loved that. I never knew hitman was into pulp.
30/05/2012 at 14:14 kulik says:
They’re trying too hard.
30/05/2012 at 14:16 ohfouroneone says:
I don’t know why you guys have a problem with this – I always wanted sexy nuns with rocket-launchers and machine guns in my Hitman games.
30/05/2012 at 14:46 Belsameth says:
Or in every game, for that matter…
31/05/2012 at 13:29 Azdeus says:
Bit late to the party, but did’nt the universally praised Half-Life have catsuit wearing female ninja assassins in the actual game?
31/05/2012 at 13:35 Dominic White says:
There were female assassins, but they weren’t particularly sexy – it was a tight-fitting stealth suit, and they were masked. A male ninja enemy type would have looked nearly identical.
31/05/2012 at 13:43 Azdeus says:
*Shrug* All I remember about that game is fuzzy as hell, they could’ve been sexy or mingers for all I remember. Thanks for the info though!
30/05/2012 at 14:16 ChiefOfBeef says:
It’s like IO Interactive saw the Hitman film and decided it was better than Blood Money.
30/05/2012 at 14:18 jonfitt says:
Ohh shiiiii- that’s it.
IO interactive liked the movie and wished their games could be more like that.
30/05/2012 at 14:25 RaveTurned says:
Perhaps the lead designer decided watching a DVD was an easier way to research the series than actually playing the previous games.
31/05/2012 at 05:21 Shadram says:
Next announcement: Timothy Olyphant doing the voice work for Agent 47.
30/05/2012 at 20:51 Apples says:
As someone who unironically enjoyed the movie – as something separate from the games – I can say that this is nothing like the film either. The film had one ‘sexy’ woman who, understandably, played up her sexuality to attempt to escape from a complete mentalist and was rejected in an even more mental way. And while it did have a silly swordfight, it wasn’t actually a very over-the-top film and came across as rather melancholy at times. It was nothing near the level of latex nuns carrying bazookas being graphically shot in the chest after a zoom-in on their ‘surprised’ face as a guy comes up behind them. That doesn’t even belong in Saints Row.
30/05/2012 at 14:16 Kollega says:
OH. MY. GOD.
This is wrong, stupid, and totally not Hitman on so, so many levels. I’m not a huge fan of the series, but even from my very limited experience with the series, i can see that THIS is utterly NOT HITMAN.
30/05/2012 at 14:33 jezcentral says:
Actually, this level of ridiculousness is what I’ve been waiting to see. The po-faced, police-evading shenanigans shown so far have left me cold. This, at least, is closer to the tone of the old games. But not, alas, the execution.
Ha! Did you see what I did there?
30/05/2012 at 14:58 Unaco says:
Indeed. I’m not convinced by the gameplay, but the tone definitely seems to be harking back to the early (and bestest) games. I remember in Codename 47, single handedly filling a 4 story Chinese Restaurant with corpses… storming a Columbian Paramilitary facility in the jungles… rampaging through a Russian Nuclear sub facility… shootouts with an army of clones of yourself… killing a Chauffeur as he urinated in an alley (not for mission reasons, but because urinating in public is filthy). Car bombs. Bullet time. Actually using those Silverballers in shoot outs, instead of being railroaded down the Silent Assassin route. Felt much more organic, dynamic… if a waiter walked in on you garotting a target in a bathroom stall, you didn’t stop and reload, you just killed the waiter and dumped his body in the cubicle with the target.
The clinical, ‘perfect’ hits (that seem to make up all of the later games) weren’t the only thing that was possible, or expected. Sometimes you had to get your hands dirty, make some noise.
30/05/2012 at 15:41 Kollega says:
Well, i’ve said that i don’t have much experience with the games.
And now that i think of it, in Contracts there was a mission about infiltrating a BDSM party, so… yeah. Perhaps nuns wearing skimpy leather and armed with heavy machine guns aren’t out of place at all.
30/05/2012 at 14:17 Paul C says:
This is pretty goddamn offensive.
And I’ve not even played any of the previous Hitman games. I have no expectations for the trailer to dash.
30/05/2012 at 21:15 ThinkAndGrowWitcher says:
I know, I know! Why do they always have to represent bald men like this?
By the way, did you switch off at the point of offense, or did you manage to see the rest while being morally outraged?
30/05/2012 at 14:18 Lars Westergren says:
I was briefly excited for this title, but the more I see lately the more it sounds like it will be a Syndicate rather than a Deus Ex.
Maybe it will be like Dragon Age 1 where the game turned out quite good even though the ACTION! TITS! EDGY! marketing made me want to strangle someone, but… not getting my hopes up.
30/05/2012 at 14:24 Nighthood says:
More realistically, I see it going the route of Dragon Age 2, where they deliver exactly what the trailers promised. If not worse than the trailers promised.
30/05/2012 at 15:11 Xardas Kane says:
You are quite the little hater, aren’t you?
30/05/2012 at 14:19 Nick says:
What. The. Fuck.
30/05/2012 at 14:21 RobF says:
IT’S OK. I’VE FIXED IT.
http://tubedubber.com/#Yb_Gpqoc1wQ:X4QuiGspxoM:0:100:0:0:1
IO Boll ain’t got nothing on me.
30/05/2012 at 14:43 Dances to Podcasts says:
An inspired choice, good sir.
30/05/2012 at 14:56 The Godzilla Hunter says:
Alternatively: http://tubedubber.com/#Yb_Gpqoc1wQ:hwhvByj8YG8:0:100:0:0:1
30/05/2012 at 14:58 RobF says:
There’s never an occasion where that doesn’t work!
30/05/2012 at 16:53 dazman76 says:
Oh lord, this is my first exposure to Tubedubber! Cheers for the chuckles guys :)
30/05/2012 at 14:24 Moni says:
I’m enjoying reading the opposing complaints that the trailer is terrible because it doesn’t represent the game and that IO are terrible for ruining the game, as demonstrated in the trailer.
30/05/2012 at 14:25 DickSocrates says:
Somewhere after Blood Money, they lost all their reason. Made two terrible games, and now seem to be on course to crash Hitman into the ground.
30/05/2012 at 14:27 V. Profane says:
Everybody knows Tarrantino is in to feet.
30/05/2012 at 14:28 caddyB says:
Ok there goes any little interest I had in this game.
30/05/2012 at 14:29 Urthman says:
Oh come on, John. You can’t have a game called “Absolution” without murdering a few nuns. Given that subtitle, what else could the developers do?
30/05/2012 at 14:44 Dances to Podcasts says:
Monks? Bishops? Cardinals?
30/05/2012 at 15:19 caddyB says:
Pope? Oh wait that’s done.
30/05/2012 at 14:30 Bluerps says:
What is this group of weirdly dressed women even supposed to be? I mean, they seem to be some kind of professional hit-squad (if you ignore the clothes), but they are so bad at that job that this cannot be true.
Maybe they were on their way to a Halloween party, they got their directions wrong and there was some horrible mixup when they bought their fake weapons. “Look, this Bazooka shoots a bit of firework when you pull the trigger. Won’t it be hilarious when I announce that we’re here with a bang?”
30/05/2012 at 14:31 Oozo says:
It’s Several Tough Nuns! They out-did James O. Incandenza!
30/05/2012 at 14:34 Totally heterosexual says:
What the fuck.
IO
INTO MY OFFICE
30/05/2012 at 14:47 Dances to Podcasts says:
I don’t know what you have planned for them, but I suspect they might like it anyway.
30/05/2012 at 16:06 Zarunil says:
Input/Output?
30/05/2012 at 17:36 Totally heterosexual says:
No silly. IO interactive.
30/05/2012 at 14:34 Cerebulon says:
I was staying optimistic about this. Defending dumb marketing as being nothing more than dumb marketing and not an indication of how terrible the game could be.
I give up. This is absolutely terrible.
30/05/2012 at 14:34 Surlywombat says:
This is excellent marketing at its worst. The marketing bods don’t care why a game is talked about, they just care it is. I’m sure they are rubbing their hands at the prospect of a media, not storm, but maybe a light shower. Over this.
30/05/2012 at 14:35 jobejoe says:
I wonder if you can use those skimpy PVC outfits as a disguise ?
30/05/2012 at 14:36 db1331 says:
He did it all wrong. After killing the first nun, he should have put on her clothes, allowing him to move among the remaining nuns undetected.
31/05/2012 at 00:40 E_FD says:
…my god, you’re right, that’s EXACTLY what 47 would’ve done in this scenario in one of the previous games.
30/05/2012 at 14:36 JamesPatton says:
That was so Freudian! There was competition for surrogate penises and everything! Wow. Which means that “nuns being killed by man via guns” equates symbolically to “nuns being raped by man to impose sexual dominance”, I guess. Not that either are particularly nice, of course.
What the fuck were they thinking?!
Oh, also, if this is what Blood Money is going to look like – if this is its “vibe” – then the game can only be terrible, surely?
30/05/2012 at 14:39 kalirion says:
Murder? Seems an obvious case of self defense to me.
That said, the trailer is very dumb.
30/05/2012 at 14:40 woodsey says:
To be fair, Blood Money had overly-sexualised men and women all over the place to give the world a certain vulgarity.
To be realistic, that trailer was fucking ridiculous. And yet another sign that this will suffer the same *original genre* now with -action fate as a lot of other games. Almost none of which have benefited from such a transition.
30/05/2012 at 15:51 Sparkasaurusmex says:
Yeah, none have benefited… unless you mean financially
30/05/2012 at 16:27 woodsey says:
I dunno, did Splinter Cell: Conviction sell innumerably more than previous entries?
Did DA2 kill Origins in sales numbers?
As far as I’m aware, not really.
31/05/2012 at 02:33 Deadly Sinner says:
Plus Syndicate bombed and Take-Two is so confident in XCOM that they delayed it until 2013.
30/05/2012 at 14:47 R J K says:
Trailer is more Zack Snyder than Tarantino, isn’t it?
30/05/2012 at 15:23 seventhrib says:
Yes it is. References to Tarantino being an adolescent fanboy grate on me, it’s tired and wrong anyway. Especially when Snyder actually fits that description.
30/05/2012 at 16:09 ffordesoon says:
To be fair, he kind of is.
He’s just very, very, very good at it, to the point that his work transcends the limitations of his filmwank-driven psyche and becomes something special and unique and worth paying attention to.
Zack Snyder, on the other hand, was who came to mind when I watched this thing, because it’s facile, fetishistic junk written and/or directed by an emotional teenager(s) who mistakes slow-motion violence for artistry and edginess for maturity. And, frankly, Zack Snyder is better at that than whoever slapped this piece of garbage together.
30/05/2012 at 16:53 choconutjoe says:
Yeah, it seems a bit unfair to lump the man who made Jackie Brown in with this sort of thing.
30/05/2012 at 14:48 Heliocentric says:
I’m just going to go ahead and pretend this trailer doesn’t exist because it is throttling the life out of my excitement for Hitman.
30/05/2012 at 14:54 The Godzilla Hunter says:
It seems to me that the best way to deal with those assassins would be to gently nudge them, and, while they fall down and break their heels, run away.
30/05/2012 at 14:56 TechSmurfy says:
If this was not Hitman, I’d say ‘Awesome’.
30/05/2012 at 15:00 Clavus says:
I… liked it? It’s not like the previous Hitman games were free of these absurdities. Sure it’s not exactly a fine example of how women are portrayed but whatever. It’s a perfect marketing trailer and I can enjoy it as thus. I still expect to be able to take a stealth route through the game.
Plus the CGI is pretty damn beautiful.
30/05/2012 at 15:09 Jamesworkshop says:
I have to say I don’t really get it, it feels like that lollipop chainsaw game (maybe saint’s row), at least that mansion trailer felt more like how splinter cell conviction felt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ziDZ9d2ceo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-415JK8b0Y
much more serious than that 60′s Hong Kong action cinema stuff
30/05/2012 at 15:18 thinbourne says:
I kind of liked it. Hitty there was just being his awesome self.
30/05/2012 at 15:30 misterT0AST says:
it was pretty impressive actually.
Even if the outfits were offensively, stupidly slutty, the camera didn’t linger on the girls too much.
I feel like someone wanted the trailer to have erotic undertones, someone else tried to hide them a bit with camera work and good action.
The action WAS good, c’mon! Very well coreographed and not too acrobatic.
30/05/2012 at 16:15 Nala says:
Erotic UNDERTONES? Honestly? It’s not that I feel terribly offended (I’m a gamer for quite some time and at a certain point you’ll just nod and say: “Yeah… they’ll probably someday learn…”), but there are no Undertones.
They are wearing 20cm Pumps and Fetish Outfits in leather and I suppose latex. In a cover as killer-nuns. Probably hot for some, won’t say anything different about that. Definetly not undertones.
But please.. Just when I think video game companies finally get it…
01/06/2012 at 01:04 RegisteredUser says:
This is actually part of the problem.
Its the disgusting double standard of sexualizing, but pretending not to actually indulge in it, because, well, now THAT would be wrong.
Its also why in series like Chuck you will have tons and tons of episodes of “the little blonde bimbo in undies again hyuckhyuck”, but try to get more than 3-5 seconds of the camera focussing on her ass and you will see an actual mission impossible.
Its the same with every overt display of “sexy” in every american thing ever.
On the one hand, what they are doing is nothing really outside of utilizing all the traits of actual titillation and pornography, but actually making an honest use of it? Now that would be real smut!
Whereas if you show just glimpses and flashes of nudity or hints of it, why that is just shameful enough to remain politically correct.
Its all a very sad state of affairs and its exactly what is wrong with all of this. Either don’t go for the cheap sex pull and make actual content, sophistication, tone, grit, substance etc pp, or admit that you’re just going to exploit the fact that we dig sexuality and then be so good as to actually indulge, too.
The constantly implemented bait and switch nonsense is just that.
30/05/2012 at 15:38 Grape says:
When I saw that trailer, my immediate reaction was “Oh, how RPS is going to throw a little piss-fit over this!” But then I come to the website, and the reaction was mostly subdued, save for their usual bitchy passive-aggressiveness and the equally expected white-knights in the comments-section.
I’m disappointed.
30/05/2012 at 16:32 sinister agent says:
Would you mind pointing out where exactly it’s passive-aggressive? Because it looks pretty direct and explicit from where I’m sitting.
30/05/2012 at 20:00 DiamondDog says:
Oh well that’s just fantastic, I was going to try and entice the future Mrs. Diamond by saying this trailer is shit. But then you go and tell everyone that’s what we’re doing! You went and fucked up the only chance I had of finding love! Now I’m going to be alone forever.
Thanks a lot. Douche.
30/05/2012 at 20:42 Apples says:
Hi, your fruit-named feminist counterpart checking in to remind you that men can be feminist without being white knights, and that thinking this trailer is dumb and offensive makes you neither a bitch, a prude or a white knight.
31/05/2012 at 03:38 Sinomatic says:
“men can be feminist without being white knights”
This. So this.
There’s a difference in speaking FOR someone and agreeing WITH them.
Of course, last time I said something to that effect on here I got accused of being John Walker in disguise *grins*
30/05/2012 at 15:41 Makariel says:
What did I just watch? óÒa
30/05/2012 at 16:19 ffordesoon says:
Snuff porn created for broadcast television.
30/05/2012 at 16:33 lijenstina says:
The news are already snuff porn.
30/05/2012 at 15:45 stahlwerk says:
John, I fear io Interactive might actually be trolling you.
Edit: And I mean you, specifically. As in “We need more reach… what’s that british blog again? The one with that walker guy? RPS? Yeah, just make a trailer that gets them into maximum anger mode. What? he’s
catholicreligious? AND pro-feminism? Well, how about that…”30/05/2012 at 16:01 Jamesworkshop says:
I think John is an Anglican
you know like Peter hitchens ;)
30/05/2012 at 16:04 stahlwerk says:
Oh okay, that’s what I get for not reaching my caffeine RDA. Thanks!
30/05/2012 at 16:30 sinister agent says:
What? John worships angles?
That’s just silly. John, you oddball.
30/05/2012 at 16:33 stahlwerk says:
could be worse, he could worship Pele…
I’ll get my coat.
30/05/2012 at 16:35 Jamesworkshop says:
Don’t you mean Angels?
I don’t think Christianity includes much direct Angel worship exactly.
31/05/2012 at 08:31 John Walker says:
Just for the record, I am neither. I guess “protestant”, whatever that means. Also, being compared to Peter Hitchens is the horriblest thing anyone’s ever said. I used to have to share a desk with that whiny, snivelly man : (
31/05/2012 at 12:47 stahlwerk says:
Oh my. I do not know what I know anymore.
I distinctly remember a post about this subject, but my search field foo is weak today.
30/05/2012 at 15:55 Zeewolf says:
OMG, that was nasty. And not in the good way.
30/05/2012 at 15:59 S Jay says:
Hot. But so ridiculously silly and not Hitman at all that I would think it was made as a side project by some CG artist on acid.
30/05/2012 at 16:14 Zarunil says:
Lovely boobs, but not really the kind of shooty-bang I expect from a Hitman game.
30/05/2012 at 16:19 Smannesman says:
Oh man that is deliciously ridiculous.
From the scantily clad latex nuns to stealthily garotting nuns whilst they’re in a formation that is at most spread an arm’s length apart.
And why the heck did he garrote his way into the middle of the formation of scantily clad latex nuns and then proceed to shoot and brawl with them?
As the franchise goes on 47 seems to be devolving into a simple homicidal thug (as per the modern usage of the word, not the Thuggee usage).
30/05/2012 at 16:28 sinister agent says:
Pro: Great work those texture artists and animators. Really gorgeous work, you should be very pleased. The sound’s not bad either.
Con: Almost everything else about this is excruciating. We’re not all mentally stunted horny 13 year olds, guys, and even some of them would be insulted by this.
Sigh. Let’s hope this is like most trailers, in that it has nothing whatsoever to do with the game.
30/05/2012 at 16:30 Iskariot says:
Everything I have seen of the new Hitman game thus far makes me believe we should write it of as a new Hitman game altogether, but I might be wrong of course.
Absolution might be a very enjoyable action game. Indeed I even firmly believe it will be a cool game in it’s own right, but judging from what they have shown us I have to say it just does not feel like Hitman at all.
Nevertheless I will buy the game. I have no doubt it will be an interesting game as is.
Only when the gameplay is less then 12 hours I will wait for the bargain bin.
I never pay full price for smallish action shooters.
30/05/2012 at 16:37 Tatourmi says:
Oh COME ONE everybody. Have the brits lost their legendary sense of humour? It’s NUNS WITH GUNS.
How is that not a good thing? Besides Hitman games are at their best when they begin throwing that kind of absurdity around, the porn star level in Blood Money for example was amazing. The useless “slow mo soaked gun under rain wot falls on it or something” shot aside that trailer was glorious!
And also, yeah, NUNS WITH GUNS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wsSacnyP6I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni7-R6Xq_J8
This is a tradition.
30/05/2012 at 16:55 Oozo says:
Thing is: It’s not funny. It’s trying so god damn awfully hard to be like Grindhouse, which bordered heavily on try-hard as well. (That is, the Planet Terror-part of it.)
What made that movie fun is that a) they do have a sense of humor that is somewhat original and b) that at least you could see that they were familiar with what they were paying hommage to/spoof. (Exploitation. In this case, Nunsplotation. It’s a genre, you know, which is a lot older than that trailer.)
This here is simply: “You know what would be fun? Nuns. With Guns! Like in that Grindhouse trailer! [If they even are aware of its existence]…but, dude, make ‘em hot, because our target audience does not only like fun and guns, they also like sex!”
If it’s fun, then it’s a very, very not-so-clever kind of fun.
Plus, it has absolutely nothing to do with Hitman, as we know it. So… it’s trash, but, you know, not even “Trash”. (For this, it’s way to well-produced, and calculating, and money-grabbing.)
30/05/2012 at 20:45 Tatourmi says:
Oozo please don’t “It’s a genre, you know, which is a lot older than that trailer.” people. It is just not very nice.
And as for the “not fun” part, well, I do find it quite hillarious so there must be something. I mean, even if you actually forget about the whole reference thing (Which is not really something funny to me, it’s witty and makes you go “oh, i see what you did there”), it is a hitsquad of sexy sm nuns with rpg’s. This is enough to stick a wide smile on my face. Yes, it’s marketting, yes it is stupid, yes the women are sexy if you like that sort of thing, but hey, there is nothing wrong with that. I prefer funny marketting, I am comfortable with my sexuality and I got the references. This won’t make me buy the game but I do think that going all “booooo” is a little bit too much.
Down with the clever kind of fun!
31/05/2012 at 03:51 Sinomatic says:
I’m comfortable with my sexuality too. Shame that I’m now feeling awfully awkward and sad about being my gender in this medium.
Again.
But hey, there’s nothing wrong with this kind of marketing, right?
31/05/2012 at 07:43 Oozo says:
Ok, the “you know” was kind of a sucker punch, I do apologize for that.
However, I still DO think that it is crucial to know about the history of the genre, the whole wider historical context of exploitation cinema, which WAS sexist, cheap and problematic, and still is.
What has changed is the way people approach that kind of cinema – it’s only excusable as “clever watching”, that means a reception which takes into account the history, the blatant sexism, and does not reproduce nor excuse it, but MAKE FUN OF IT. It’s not laughing with it, it’s laughing at it, and this is crucial. The alternative, that means a “dumb reception”, would be as highly problematic now as it was then.
Even though your milage may vary, what makes this trailer problematic is that there is nothing of that context. In fact, as I already wrote, it being put into a context where it doesn’t make any sense at all – the Hitman franchise – is the whole problem: It does not become a clever second-order kind of movie making, knowingly cheap, knowingly tongue-in-cheek, knowingly winking to the audience, but a 1:1 reproduction of the blattantly violent and sexist tendencies that the genre had from the start.
So, while I do think that there is a place for good, dumb fun, there are other moments when being “dumb” becomes being part of the problem. Like, when the only joke you know how to tell is a sexist one.
30/05/2012 at 23:59 ffordesoon says:
If it’s funny, where’s the joke? Is the joke that it’s knowingly absurd? Because I’m not sure it is. The tone of the whole ad suggests to me that we’re meant to be awed by 47′s ruthless badassery. Also, while you [i]can[/i] make a bunch of people being killed funny and/or entertaining and/or absurd, the fetishistic way it’s portrayed here feels more like it’s meant to be appreciated as ever so grown-up.
30/05/2012 at 16:41 Drake Sigar says:
Didn’t get Max Payne 3, and I’m not getting this.
30/05/2012 at 16:51 Moni says:
Nuns 1, 2, and 7 all turned up in the same outfit. How embarrassing.
30/05/2012 at 17:04 lordfrikk says:
Oh, wow, how this could even get any worse.
30/05/2012 at 17:11 MOKKA says:
I remember that in the last Hitman Game, you got a very shitty score if you finished a Level by simply slaughtering everyone.
30/05/2012 at 17:11 suibriel says:
If they were going for dark and edgy and controversial they should have had 47 stalking a mother with her children. Or something unnerving detailing the ease of tailing an unaware civilian going about day to day life.
Alas, no.
Tits, guns and look how visceral we are PREORDER NOW
30/05/2012 at 17:49 Joc says:
I’d love to have been a fly on the wall during the meeting in which the decision that this would be a good idea was made. But a fly that could audibly yell, “What is wrong with you, you bunch of twats? Stop setting your medium back.”
That’s exactly what I would say, before being swatted. There’s an allegory in there, somewhere.
30/05/2012 at 17:59 Calabi says:
What was most offensive to me was how stupid the nuns were. Just walking up to the front door in noisy high heels and in an easy to kill formation.
Idiots, what is the matter with these people!
30/05/2012 at 18:09 SiHy_ says:
They should probably just stop releasing trailers. Every time one comes out another ten dozen people shake their heads and slowly walk away.
30/05/2012 at 18:54 Tritagonist says:
Yes, yes. Hitman: Absolution. Absolution, killing nuns. I get it. It’s just not very funny. The graphics of this CGI trailer are very good though, I’ll say that much. Still, nothing in this trailer remotely hints at what I liked in previous Hitman games; sneaking around, switching outfits to match the environment, gathering intel on patrols, etc.
As for the fetish outfits, Hitman Contract had an entire level in a BDSM club in some slaughterhouse – it’s obviously a theme that appeals to the developers. I don’t mind that at all, but if you want to make that a theme, which I imagine is quite possible, would it really hurt to address the underlying appeal of said scene, rather than just the ‘sexy pic I’m hiding from mom’ angle?
31/05/2012 at 02:50 Deadly Sinner says:
But people were wearing BDSM outfits in the BDSM club because they were doing BDSM which makes sense. These women were dressing up in BDSM outfits to fight a highly trained superhuman assassin, which makes no sense.
30/05/2012 at 18:59 WrongThinker says:
Anti-Feminist? Pfft. What makes this Anti-Feminist?
First off, the women in this trailer are assassins, a role typically dominated by men in fiction. Secondly, these women are portrayed as competent and powerful; they put up a real fight against the character who in the Hitman fiction is the most dangerous assassin ever to live. They draw blood on the guy!
Then, there is the core argument that they aren’t wearing much. While this is (obviously) true, women not wearing much doesn’t make something misogyny just like guys not wearing much doesn’t make it misandry. If it did, 300 would be the epitome of misandry, which it isn’t.
Then there is the violence against women by a man. Out of content, I could see this as a strong argument in favor of this trailer being misogynistic… but in context, the main character was acting in self defense against a competent, powerful threat against his life. It’s not a bunch of helpless women or “damsels in distress.” It’s violence against assassins, their gender isn’t important. If it was, then Haywire should have offended me (as a man) for having a women kill a bunch of men… but it didn’t, because they were assassins killing each other. It wasn’t about a women killing men, it was about heroes killing villains.
There certainly are instances of legit misogyny and instances where I can understand feminist’s ire (see: the ending to Clash of the Titans), but there are many, many times when people get riled for the wrong reasons. In many cases, as in this one, it’s not about gender unless you MAKE IT about gender.
30/05/2012 at 19:35 Scrawnto says:
Might I refer you to Strong Female Characters (part 2)?
The people who made the trailer chose to make them all women in fetish clothing. The fact that it was a conscious decision to make them a particular gender and to sexualize them so directly means that it does matter. I suspect that the men in Haywire weren’t all beefcakes wearing pumps and latex.
30/05/2012 at 19:43 iucounu says:
Heh. I think the people who made the trailer ‘made it about gender’ when they decided to have 47 face off against a crew of hypersexualised fetish models. That didn’t happen by accident: it was a creative decision (however creatively bankrupt.) They said: How do we sell our game to the hormonal teenage boys we have clearly aimed our game at? The Blops fans. How do we get a piece of that action?
If you want to add puerile titillation to a game that never previously contained it, be prepared to have people complain that it’s puerile, alienating, unnecessary, and yes, even sexist.
Hitman’s about sneakily unravelling creative murder puzzles. The marketing for the game tells a different story.
31/05/2012 at 02:48 WrongThinker says:
First off, I do agree the trailer doesn’t represent what the series is about. Certainly no argument there.
Secondly, is there a way to depict women (or men, for that matter) in sexy attire without it being sexist? Where does one draw the line? As I mentioned, 300 is a movie that is comprised predominantly of powerful men, of varying builds (all falling into the most common “sexy male” archetype), all without shirts/pants. The men in that movie generally wear the equivalent of what we see the women wearing in this trailer.
The point is simple: sex sells. Sexy women sell to men and adolescent boys. Sexy men sell to women and adolescent girls. It’s not about objectifying all women (or men) or making a statement that all women (or men) exist only to be ogled… it’s simply a statement that THESE women or THESE men exist only to be ogled. That’s the distinction, in my mind.
I prefer my girlfriend’s body type (and the fact that she doesn’t kill people for a living… that I know of) to those of these models, so their sexiness is even subjective (though I admit that’s certainly what they were going for).
31/05/2012 at 04:13 Zael says:
300 was a film based on history. Spartans were actual people, and they wore very little armor, which was pretty usual back then. Furthermore, Spartans spent the majority of their life training for battle, so it makes sense that their bodies would be in top shape.
So your point kind of falls flat, unless of course there is/was an actual gang of female assassins who dress in fetish-nun uniform while on the job.
31/05/2012 at 21:13 Andrew says:
Actually, from what I have read, the Spartans wore *heavy* armour. Don’t treat 300 as being historically accurate!
01/06/2012 at 01:23 Zael says:
Hey my Ancient Classics degree might come in use here! Spartans wore two different types of armour through their history. The first one was called the linothorax which was common for hoplite infantry during the Persian Wars. Basically this was a small cuirass made from strips of linen glued together. Then later in the 5th century BC on they wore the Exomis, which was very similar to just a simple tunic (kind of what you’d see people dressed as in a toga party).
Both armour types were very light, and pretty revealing. Warfare in Ancient Greece was based on lightness and mobility, with shields being the only real form of protection. So 300 wasn’t far off. Especially when you consider on the morning of the third day when they were surrounded, the 300 remaining Spartans all gathered around and oiled each others muscles and hair so they’d look nice for death.
31/05/2012 at 08:03 Oozo says:
“Secondly, is there a way to depict women (or men, for that matter) in sexy attire without it being sexist?”
There is. To mention the obvious: Look at Buffy, Faith, Illira in Angel, the whole female crew of Serenity, in short: Joss Whedon in his best moments. Or, since he was already mentioned, Tarantino’s female characters, for the most part.
Those director’s do, however, try not to fall into the obvious traps. For example, Whedon’s camera never lingers on asses or chests just for the benefit of the horny audience, like it is done in this trailer. (Ok, those shots reveal the “guns”, but, common.) (Tarantino’s foot/leg fetish is another question, though.) Plus: Their female characters are characters, and not reduced to the a female stereotype. And, you know, competent to boost. Nothing of which is true for the nuns in this trailer.
So it is possible. But it takes work, awareness and some thought, I guess.
30/05/2012 at 19:43 iucounu says:
Snap!
31/05/2012 at 04:32 alundra says:
It’s easy, if it was a bunch of hags in executive dresses, and instead of guns they were brandishing sexual harassment suits it would be empowering to women, but because it doesn’t fit into a politically correct train of thought, it’s anti feminist.
31/05/2012 at 04:38 bladedsmoke says:
Haha, by the way, anyone who uses the term “feminazi” needs to have a history lesson about Nazis, and then one about feminists, and then maybe they need to talk for a few minutes to an actual breathing woman who isn’t their mother.
31/05/2012 at 04:36 bladedsmoke says:
How exactly are they portrayed as being “super-competent?” Or even “competent?”
They turn up, get undressed, flaunt their sexuality, and then are ruthlessly beaten up and killed by a single man who doesn’t break a sweat.
They are at no point presented as a “credible threat” to 47. Your point completely falls flat, right there.
30/05/2012 at 19:30 DiamondDog says:
I was very much on the fence about this new Hitman, but now they’ve shown us a cinematic trailer in which he kills boobs while it’s raining I couldn’t be more excited.
30/05/2012 at 20:10 Shazbut says:
In my books, nothing gets points for being deliberately or “knowingly” over-the-top and stupid. That stuff always seems to be made by people who are argumentative, intellectual, and somewhat emotionally stunted.
30/05/2012 at 20:19 Daerdor says:
The whole concept of Hitman seems totally ruined.
I still hope we’ll see 47 again as he should be, silent assassin with only a piano wire … but judging from this trailer that won’t happen anytime soon :(
30/05/2012 at 22:16 pseudolus says:
Dear Mr Walker,
I would argue that the entire video game has a punitive attitude toward ANY sexuality, rather than women’s in particular. In fact, the game is punitive toward all excesses, as Hitman is obviously restrained and stoic, and this is positioned as one of his strengths, where others fall prey to indulgence. For example, Lorne de Havilland in Blood Money, or the Sturrocks in Contracts.
The problem with the video isn’t that is kicks feminism in the balls, it’s that it fundamentally betrays the game by portraying it stupidly. Feminism takes a hit, but it’s Hitman that really suffers.
30/05/2012 at 22:22 Sarkhan Lol says:
What the fuck.
It’s like they got Rembrandt to draw a massive dick on the side of a building.
30/05/2012 at 22:52 Shooop says:
I’ll take your word on this one. Really, I don’t even want to see the trailer. It would hurt far too much.
30/05/2012 at 23:12 Jupiah says:
I’ve never played a Hitman game before. This trailer does not make me want to pick the series up.
I mean, I was under the impression that the bald guy was a really clever and brutal, but still human assassin. But going by this trailer he must have teleportation or at least superhuman speed to warp into the middle of that formation of nuns and garotte like 3 of them before the explosion even finished. I also thought the games were fairly serious, but I guess they are more like grim-dark charlie’s angels going by this trailer.
30/05/2012 at 23:15 joeytheboy says:
I think you’re being a little over sensitive on the whole feminism front. And a baseball bat to the nuts reference is a bit of hyperbole. Its just a game dude; and the trailer is pretty slick IMO.
31/05/2012 at 00:15 Eddy9000 says:
Define why the portrayal of women in a game played by millions of people, over 90% of which will be men, should be treated as socially unimportant.
You see this is the difference between us, I prioritise women being portrayed by the media in a way that doesn’t marginalise them, you prioritise how slick it looks. Horses for courses though.
31/05/2012 at 00:30 joeytheboy says:
Eddy, these not real, CG women are no more marginalized than say, a throng of not real CG cops bumbling after a super villian. Hyper vigilance is a vice, not a virtue.
31/05/2012 at 00:37 joeytheboy says:
also im not entirely sure how you’re using the “Horses for courses” idiom. i know what it means. just not certain what you’re implying.
31/05/2012 at 01:01 Eddy9000 says:
‘Horses for courses’ in this context means that the views that some people have are different to the views that other people have, that I have one view and you have another. It isn’t an offensive term. It can be used flexibly in any situation where different things belong in different places.
All portrayals in the media both represent, maintain and influence attitudes towards their real world counterparts, this is why portraying violence by a man towards overly sexualised women is causing a fuss in the comments: there is a dominant social attitude towards women that reduces them to their physical attractiveness, to their value as objects for the sexual gratification of men. This reduction of women to objects for sex allows violence towards them by men through domestic violence and rape. Portraying violence by a man towards sexualised women is therefore seen as reflecting and maintaining social attitudes that are responsible for the marginalisation of women and the violence done towards them. If a bunch of books came out that portrayed the country you were from as being full of idiots then you’d be rightly pissed off because the people that read them might think that you were an idiot. This trailer portrays women as nothing more than sex objects to be killed by men, and makes me feel very uncomfortable.
31/05/2012 at 01:14 joeytheboy says:
Thats an old argument borrowed from the anti-porn groups. There is no data to show that violent crimes against women by men correlate to videogames, porn, pro-wrestling, rap music, rock music, country music, comic books, regular books, movies or TV. People tried to recycle this argument with Grand Theft Auto when everyone found out you could kill the whore you just bought to get your money back and the sex scene in GTA San Andreas. It didn’t hold water then, and its not going to hold water now. I have much more faith in humanity to distinguish fantasy from reality. As i have said before, hyper vigilance is a vice.
31/05/2012 at 02:56 Eddy9000 says:
You didn’t really understand what I wrote going by your answer. I said that the media both reflects and maintains social attitudes. Even under the (incorrect) assumption that media portrayals do not affect public attitudes I still do not agree with the attitudes towards women represented in this trailer. As it happens there is plenty of evidence that suggests that media portrayals influence public attitudes, believe me, I’m a clinical psychologist and I’ve just written a thesis on the influence of television representations of mental illness on viewer attitudes. It doesn’t happen in quite as direct or simple a way as you understand it, for example men do not beat up women because they see it in a specific game or movie, but the social attitudes represented and disseminated through mass media portrayals of violence towards women are those that allow women to be beaten. I’ve attached a paper for you, it’s to do with mental health portrayal but talks about the complex relationship that the media has with social attitudes. If you have evidence that viewer attitudes are in no way affected by media portrayals then you’d better phone up the entire advertising industry and any government agency responsible for producing propaganda or public service broadcasts and tell them that they are wasting their time and billions of pounds.
http://www.brown.uk.com/brownlibrary/anderson.pdf
31/05/2012 at 03:43 joeytheboy says:
why did you block the reply button? And we arnt talking about the mentally ill. Were talking about normal people that can distinguish fantasy from reality. and we arnt talking about advertisements and marketing manufacturing impulse buys. I was addressing you closing statment in your previous comment. “This trailer portrays women as nothing more than sex objects to be killed by men, and makes me feel very uncomfortable.” and i was saying thats just hyper vigilance and hyperbole on your part . and to adress you most recent post “but the social attitudes represented and disseminated through mass media portrayals of violence towards women are those that allow women to be beaten.” i wholey reject that premise. The best you could come up with to support that argument is a paper you wrote about a select group of people who cannot differentiate fantasy from reality that watch too much bad TV.
and how big is your Ego to think that referencing your own material in an argument would okay? thats like saying “Heres my opinion in official form.”
31/05/2012 at 10:19 ShineDog says:
I can’t reply further down, so this might appear out of sequence.
Joey. He’s not arguing about distinguishing fantasy from reality. You are. You are arguing this because you seem to lack a critical awareness of the issues involved.
He’s arguing about reinforcing societal attitudes. He’s arguing about the message here.
Yes. This is fantasy. No one here is stupid enough to make this mistake. Heres the problem though.
The fantasy presented here is murdering hypersexualised ladies.
Do you see the problem? Do you? no. Well, then you’re the problem bud.
31/05/2012 at 14:46 Eddy9000 says:
Joey, please read what I wrote again, you’ve totally misunderstood what I was saying. The reply button is blocked automatically after a number of replies btw. And the paper I’ve linked to isn’t mine. And honestly I think referencing research that you’ve done in a debate that it’s relevant to is kind of common sense, should I just pretend that I don’t know anything about the topic to give you a fair chance?
31/05/2012 at 00:09 Om says:
This is going to be an absolute disaster, isn’t it?
31/05/2012 at 00:40 kud13 says:
It’s a great trailer. A masterpiece. Truly reflects what we want to see from the series.
But that’s not how you spell “Kill Bill”….
31/05/2012 at 00:46 E_FD says:
I realize that a trailer of patiently sitting in an elevator shaft for five minutes waiting for a guy to enter the elevator below so that you can strangle him and take his clothes and ID in order to walk past some other people so that you can trigger a fire alarm to get some guards distracted long enough that you can hide in a closet inside another guy’s room so that you can wait patiently for another five minutes until he comes in and you can strangle him too doesn’t sound very cinematic, but damnit, it’s the game I want to play. Again.
31/05/2012 at 01:03 Miltrivd says:
Oh well, when a product I would “probably” buy comes right out to insult me or my intelligence… Well, that’s an easy decision.
31/05/2012 at 01:47 Catalyst says:
Regardless, the animation quality and cgi is top notch :)
31/05/2012 at 04:43 bladedsmoke says:
Makes it all the more sad, really. Intelligent guys worked on this thing. People who are skilful artists, being forced to produce this vile shit by yapping marketing guys who earn twice as much but without an iota of the talent.
The alternative – that the guys who made this were really into it – is even more depressing really.
31/05/2012 at 04:51 DaFishes says:
This kind of crap belongs in Saints Row, not in Hitman, FFS.
31/05/2012 at 06:59 Surgeon says:
Phwoar!
Sexy Nun gusset!
31/05/2012 at 08:49 Roshin says:
This new Postal game is looking great.
31/05/2012 at 12:46 Jargo says:
“Welcome to the new Hitman trailer brainstorming meeting. Bob, what do you think is the most awesome thing about the Hitman games?”
Bob :”I love to play the playboy mansion and the fetish club levels and strangle, shoot and stab attractive female civilians in hot fetish clothing over and over again. But in a trailer i want them to attack me first, so i fell less creepy when i vividly kill them.”
“Awsome idea Bob, lets all watch my huge nun porn collection together for inspiration.”
31/05/2012 at 15:56 RegisteredUser says:
Reminds me of that one “club” mission in one of the older hitmans. All these kind of things make me do is try to look up dead (and alive) women’s skirts which ends up with me wearing a perpetual frown that the only thing I can do is shoot the corpse or take a screenshot.
Why give us the setup if you’re not going to follow through? Stop hinting sex if you’re not going to do it properly.
Its just annoying; nobody needs that.
31/05/2012 at 16:08 RegisteredUser says:
Btw, I take offense at this whole onesidedness of bullshit political correctness.
The times when only the wee poor women were exploited have come and gone. Not just for the gay community, but for women, too, are there now endless commercials, magazines(+covers), movies and series with topless men prancing about with product or well oiled up, trained well past anything someone without a family fortune(so that you can use the daytime to work out) or personal trainer could afford to work up to.
There are flat, stereotypical male archetypes throughout all games we play that belie the sophistication, empathy and depth men as human beings actually possess and our endless need for games and our heroes to be good is just more of the same.
In a fuckton of ways, men have been exploited to crap and back, yet we bend over backwards to make sure to all chime in only on the woman side of the PC agenda, because, well, sad as it is, a lot of “us” have been guilted into believing that that’s just what “good modern boys” do.
And it makes me sick.
Not that being mysogynistic or sexist or anti-female etc pp is a good thing. But its shortsighted and narrow to keep banging on about it as if that is the only side of the coin that exists.
And over both issues: If we can’t be dicks in our fantasies and games, where the fuck else?
Not in reality, because that is the one place where it will actually have an effect on real people.
And those trying to flat out deny or censor it or wish it away forget that being at times spiteful, hateful, reductionist in your logic or negative-emotional is also part of being human.
To get it out of our system we have things like working out, both physically and fantasy-wise, and trying to bleet against every measure that might have an inch of catharsis just because it goes against what so many norm-fed suckers believe to be “acceptable” is doing it wrong.
To be fair – there is a kind of “Yea, no, this is sick on any level” that springs from the gut (was reached in Manhunt for me, e.g.) and should tell us that there maybe are some boundaries to what we should/”need” to do, but in general we don’t even come within the same galaxy before the “BUT THATS SEXIST, YOU ARE SHOWING TITTIES!” whining springs up.
So, yea. It would be far less worse if it were the women themselves complaining. But men fighting each other to display the most correct outrage, because that makes you a good person that’s why is just sickening.
It ends up an almost or just as bad sin against women by trying to tell them what’s wronging them and doing their outrage for them than the people actually being dicks to women.
Maybe think on that for a second.
31/05/2012 at 19:12 Eddy9000 says:
That’d be a second more than you thought about this bigoted mess of an argument.
31/05/2012 at 22:54 RegisteredUser says:
Its ironic that you call an argument that says there is more than a one-sided group-to-be-protected-or-discussed perspective bigoted.
31/05/2012 at 20:24 ScorpionWasp says:
If it were a bunch of guys dressed as priests, suddenly shedding the garment to reveal heavy weaponry beneath, along with muscular, toned bodies and all, trying to kill the protagonist and then getting pwned, would it have generated one tenth of the outrage that this thing did?
We see guys on the receiving end of this sorta brutality everywhere in escapist entertainment. Nobody bats an eye. Show people killing women (in SELF-DEFENSE, no less) and people want you burned at the stake. And then the feminazis come tell me that they promote gender EQUALITY. Are you fucking kidding me???
31/05/2012 at 21:21 Andrew says:
You’re right. There should be a lot more killing of women, to balance things out.
31/05/2012 at 21:22 NathanH says:
If it had been priests in fetish gear it would just have been deeply disturbing.
31/05/2012 at 22:56 RegisteredUser says:
Feminazis is a stupid word and stupid to use.
Which makes it sad that you did, because other than that you were going for a fair point.
01/06/2012 at 08:45 beekay says:
Of course it wouldn’t have generated the same outrage. Actually, I’d be pretty happy about it, because it would mean we were moving away from the industry standard of women = tits on legs, and towards a more even-handed representation of the sexes. I don’t have a problem with the existence of sexuality – hell, I enjoyed SR3 well enough.
Ask me which game I last played with a halfway-realistic female character in. Have you asked? Well it was Half-Life 2. Which, I could remind you, came out in 2002, a full decade ago.
At this point there could be a violently misandrist game released and I’d probably wipe my brow in relief.
01/06/2012 at 01:16 RegisteredUser says:
So let me get this straight. A 6+++ feet tall, barcode tagged hitman uber-male specimen, fit and ripped, that without much pain and total unstoppability moves through missions, here cleans out his wounds on a body covered with scars like its nothing because he’s Studlytough Mc Sexybod is logical, normal, realistic and a fine picture of the everyman, but when a gang of assassins that chose to market themselves via latex clothing wants to pursue their dream of high heel murder for hire, THEY are the sole unrealistic gender stereotype/portrayal?
As for the people extrapolating gameplay from a CGI trailer: Dead Island.
03/06/2012 at 19:09 nykgordon says:
Chock this up to one of two things:
1) That Japanese Square Enix Influence
2) Or some crafty metaphor explaining Agent 47′s surrendering religion
06/06/2012 at 06:06 AltF4 says:
This trailer is a work of art. Could be mistaken for Kill Bill V.3 Tarantino would be proud.
06/06/2012 at 13:32 WhatKateDoes says:
Opinion of a random female gamer:
This is no advertisement for hitman, which was all about stealthy stealthy sneaky sneaky quiet, guns are last resort kind of thing… as opposed to Michael BayASPLOSIONS and lecherous slow-mo of sexual objectification…
More to the point, no self respecting assassin (gender irrelevant) would deem latex and high heels as suitable work attire.
06/06/2012 at 13:37 WhatKateDoes says:
also.. I was maybe a little disappointed to find that the trailer wasnt just a PARODY for COMEDIC VALUE by the aforementioned Saints NOT being members of the Gang from “Saints Row” – I may have forgiven it on both counts of misogyny, and Hitman..ogyny..?